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    #39081
    Quote Originally Posted by logtaga View Post
    doc,

    ang problema hindi na maibabalik yung mga naturukan eh. Dapat kasi hinid mandatory hinid tauktan. Kung baga im a behaviorist kita ko na agad na palpak.

    As always look at the history ng current vaccines kasi result matters.
    but it was never mandatory.
    don't you recall, you yourself boasted that you refused vaccination.

    we probably owe our continued existence to these vaccines, directly or indirectly.

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    #39082
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    but it was never mandatory.
    don't you recall, you yourself boasted that you refused vaccination.

    we probably owe our continued existence to these vaccines, directly or indirectly.
    Not mandatory? What about No Vax, No Ride?

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    #39083
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    but it was never mandatory.
    don't you recall, you yourself boasted that you refused vaccination.

    we probably owe our continued existence to these vaccines, directly or indirectly.
    Mandatory when you travel/fly during covid We were required to present vax certificate

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    #39084
    governments around the world made life difficult of the unvaxxed

    people had little choice

    need to get vaxxed to work, travel

    sigurado next time mas malala pa after global authorities saw what happened in 2020/21 -- ung uneven implementation ng mga bansa sa lockdowns and vaccinations (kanya kanyang rules and enforcement ng mga bansa)

    there's a plan where the WHO will take over governments sa next pandemic para pare-pareho implementation

    wala na sariling desisyon ang gobyerno -- all governments need to obey orders from geneva

    would you wanna live in a world like that

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    #39085
    That is very scary.

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    #39086
    mandatory is when they hunt you down to vaxx you.

    but i understand your concerns.
    one would feel it were mandatory, if the non-vaxxeds were segregated from certain activities, and one had planned on undergoing these activities.
    Last edited by dr. d; March 3rd, 2024 at 07:13 PM.

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    #39087
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    governments around the world made life difficult of the unvaxxed

    people had little choice

    need to get vaxxed to work, travel

    sigurado next time mas malala pa after global authorities saw what happened in 2020/21 -- ung uneven implementation ng mga bansa sa lockdowns and vaccinations (kanya kanyang rules and enforcement ng mga bansa)

    there's a plan where the WHO will take over governments sa next pandemic para pare-pareho implementation

    wala na sariling desisyon ang gobyerno -- all governments need to obey orders from geneva

    would you wanna live in a world like that

    WHO's Pandemic Treaty, Tedros is laughing right now

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    #39088
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    mandatory is when they hunt you down to vaxx you.

    but i understand your concerns.
    one would feel it were mandatory, if the non-vaxxeds were segregated from certain activities, and one had planned on undergoing these activities.

    According to Merriam-Webster:

    mandatory
    1 of 2
    adjective
    man·​da·​to·​ry ˈman-də-ˌtȯr-ē
    Synonyms of mandatory
    1
    : required by a law or rule : OBLIGATORY
    the mandatory retirement age

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    #39089
    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    According to Merriam-Webster:

    mandatory
    1 of 2
    adjective
    man·​da·​to·​ry ˈman-də-ˌtȯr-ē
    Synonyms of mandatory
    1
    : required by a law or rule : OBLIGATORY
    the mandatory retirement age
    i guess it depends on how one defines it.

    but that's under the bridge now.

    so i wonder,
    was this vaccination a waste of money, or was it a literal life saver?
    did it save more lives than it took?
    personally, i believe it saved more lives than we imagine.
    Last edited by dr. d; March 3rd, 2024 at 08:49 PM.

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    #39090
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i guess it depends on how one defines it.

    but that's under the bridge now.

    so i wonder,
    how many of us believe this vaccination was an utter waste of money, and how many believe it was a literal life saver?
    personally, i believe it saved many lives.
    It is still very relevant.

    One should go by established definitions so as not to go astray.

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    #39091
    the government wanted everyone vaccinated and did everything short of making it mandatory

    no vax no ride

    companies required employees to be vaccinated

    restaurants wouldn't let you dine without vax card

    etcetera etcetera

    sa next pandemic mas grabe

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    #39092
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    the government wanted everyone vaccinated and did everything short of making it mandatory

    no vax no ride

    companies required employees to be vaccinated

    restaurants wouldn't let you dine without vax card

    etcetera etcetera

    sa next pandemic mas grabe

    I am hoping it would not be.

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    #39093
    remember this? (many are unaware of this)

    meron protest dati sa canada







    what did the canadian gov't do?



    this is a template

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    #39094
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    remember this? (many are unaware of this)

    meron protest dati sa canada







    what did the canadian gov't do?



    this is a template
    In January 2024, a Canadian Federal Court ruled:

    Judge rebukes Trudeau for ‘not justified’ use of Emergencies Act to break convoy | Canada | The Guardian

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    #39095
    ung pag freeze ng bank accounts could be used by governments in the next pandemic

    to control people's behavior

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    #39096
    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    It is still very relevant.

    One should go by established definitions so as not to go astray.
    And mandatory means everyone should have it. But it is not the case so it's not mandatory.

    In reference to law, “mandatory” is used to indicate that something is required or obligatory.

    That is the established definition by law.

    Yes the unvaxxed had it difficult because science - thru research and historical proof - has shown that a vaccine is ideal, albeit with possible complications for some. But super-majority of people, statistically was better off being vaccinated, than not. Is there proof otherwise? Because if there's none, better shut the hell up then if you ask me.

    I don't know why untill now some people are still skeptical of the vaccines efficacy. EH yung isang non-vax proponent nga dito walang balls to go to the covid facilities to prove his theory eh. Tapos maglalakas loob magyabang dito? Some screws are loose.
    Last edited by Ry_Tower; March 3rd, 2024 at 10:44 PM.
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    #39097
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    And mandatory means everyone should have it. But it is not the case so it's not mandatory.

    In reference to law, “mandatory” is used to indicate that something is required or obligatory.

    That is the established definition by law.
    Really? Requiring to be vaxed in order to ride public transportation to be able to go to work is not mandatory?

    Before asking one to be quiet, please present empirical data first.

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    #39098
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ung pag freeze ng bank accounts could be used by governments in the next pandemic

    to control people's behavior
    Good thing the Canadian court thinks otherwise.

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    #39099
    Quote Originally Posted by Motortrend View Post
    Really? Requiring to be vaxed in order to ride public transportation to be able to go to work is not mandatory?

    Before asking one to be quiet, please present empirical data first.
    Di ba may exemptions naman? Kaya nga nauso din bike to work diba? Tsaka kasagsagan niya eh may ayuda naman mga bumuto sa Best President ng Pinas diba. So bakit magagalit taumbayan? Landslide kaya panalo ni Pduts.

    Then the DOTR has this to say?

    "The Department of Transportation, however, said the policy was not “anti-poor, draconian or punitive”, adding: “We believe that it is more anti-poor and anti-life if we do not impose interventions that will prevent loss of life due to non-vaccinations.”

    Kung gusto mo talaga unvaccinated at magtrabaho, then you take the consequences of your choices but don'y impose upon the majority the wishes of the few.

    We are in a democratic country. Majority wins. Live with it. Every election is proof of that. Majority of the people choose PDuts, then take the consequences of his leadership. It's that simple. Did not agree with his policy, take it up with the Dutertards.
    Last edited by Ry_Tower; March 3rd, 2024 at 11:03 PM.
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