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    #36921
    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post


    PH identifies 44 close contacts of first omicron BA.2.12 subvariant case | ANC


    I thought inalis na nila ang Contact Tracing? Namimiss na nila yata ang Lockdown...
    i think the WHO said, "the whole world is currently blind on the true status of covid, because of the huge drop in covid testing."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i think the WHO said, "the whole world is currently blind on the true status of covid, because of the huge drop in covid testing."
    Agree on the testing part.

    If you don't test, walang possibility ng positives. Though again I do hope mahina na talaga current and succeeding variants para hindi na makaperwisyo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Agree on the testing part.

    If you don't test, walang possibility ng positives. Though again I do hope mahina na talaga current and succeeding variants para hindi na makaperwisyo.

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    testing.
    it's a damned if you do, and damned if you don't, thing.
    whatever you do, you won't lack of critics.

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    #36924
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i think the WHO said, "the whole world is currently blind on the true status of covid, because of the huge drop in covid testing."
    Maybe because the current dominant variant isnt as deadly as the previous ones . . . there is a silver lining to that...

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    #36928
    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    Maybe because the current dominant variant isnt as deadly as the previous ones . . . there is a silver lining to that...
    some writers believe that previous vaccination + booster, significantly protects one against more severe symptoms from the emerging variant.
    but because we see much fewer cases now, many folks feel there is no need for booster anymore.

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    #36929
    2nd booster on saudi

    MoH announces second coronavirus booster dose for those above 5 - Saudi Gazette


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    bakit ang medical community ng pinas sobrang nga-nga sa vaccine.

    Ito dati pa sinasabi ng homies ko.

    by zwez
    It appears people who get vaccinated never develop nucleocapsid antibodies to SARS-CoV-2. The fact that (S) spike protein antibodies do not prevent infection, death or hospitalization and they appear to prevent the development of (N) nucleocapsid antibodies means this disease may never go away for those who are vaccinated.

    Original antigenic sin, also known as antigenic imprinting or the Hoskins effect,[1] refers to the propensity of the body's immune system to preferentially utilize immunological memory based on a previous infection when a second slightly different version of that foreign pathogen (e.g. a virus or bacterium) is encountered. This leaves the immune system "trapped" by the first response it has made to each antigen, and unable to mount potentially more effective responses during subsequent infections. Antibodies or T-cells induced during infections with the first variant of the pathogen are subject to a form of original antigenic sin, termed repertoire freeze.

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    #36931
    This recent study seems to leave the authors perplexed as to why the majority of the vaccinated fail to develop (N) nucleocapsid antibodies.

    Serological markers of SARS-CoV-2 infection; anti-nucleocapsid antibody positivity may not be the ideal marker of natural infection in vaccinated individuals - PMC

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    This recent study seems to leave the authors perplexed as to why the majority of the vaccinated fail to develop (N) nucleocapsid antibodies.

    Serological markers of SARS-CoV-2 infection; anti-nucleocapsid antibody positivity may not be the ideal marker of natural infection in vaccinated individuals - PMC
    three year ago, the experts were not aware that this virus existed.
    and it's a known fact, that nature is very very stingy with its secrets.
    we are all still learning as we go along.
    it's an uphill climb.

    "change of facts" is a common occurrence in the field of scientific research.
    many of the so-called medical facts we learned in medical school, have already been replaced by new "facts".
    it's a never-ending process.
    Last edited by dr. d; April 30th, 2022 at 02:58 PM.

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    kung spike lang prinesenta mo sa immune system syempre only anti-spike antibodies lang ma-produce

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kung spike lang prinesenta mo sa immune system syempre only anti-spike antibodies lang ma-produce
    oo nga naman!

    i guess what the article is saying,
    is that we might be putting all our baskets on the S-protein, and disregarding the nucleocapsid approach.
    they suggest looking at the nucleocapsid with renewed interest.
    who knows...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    oo nga naman!

    i guess what the article is saying,
    is that we might be putting all our baskets on the S-protein, and disregarding the nucleocapsid approach.
    they suggest looking at the nucleocapsid with renewed interest.
    who knows...
    madami magagalit na naman hehe








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    #36936
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    madami magagalit na naman hehe
    ... sino magagalit...?
    at bakit?

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    when i quote myself haha

    dami nagagalit hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    This recent study seems to leave the authors perplexed as to why the majority of the vaccinated fail to develop (N) nucleocapsid antibodies.

    Serological markers of SARS-CoV-2 infection; anti-nucleocapsid antibody positivity may not be the ideal marker of natural infection in vaccinated individuals - PMC
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kung spike lang prinesenta mo sa immune system syempre only anti-spike antibodies lang ma-produce
    Dito papasok yung cons theory na pera2 lang ang lahat… sana nag explain ang side ng vax manufacturer why hindi nila na isip ganun approach…


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    #36939
    for me walang conspiracy

    it's pretty much common sense why vaccine manufacturers chose the spike

    coz it's on the surface of the virus

    it's exposed to the immune system -- obvious target

    the nucleocapsid is inside the virus mas hindi kita ng immune system

    yun nga lang the spike changes a lot

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    #36940
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Dito papasok yung cons theory na pera2 lang ang lahat… sana nag explain ang side ng vax manufacturer why hindi nila na isip ganun approach…


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    let us not forget that this virus didn't exist until two years ago.
    despite the seeming huge output, research on it is still just in its infancy.
    heh heh heh.

    i remember the HIV virus.
    despite the nearly 40 years of research, we still can't come up with a vaccine, because the antigenic site keeps mutating / changing...
    Last edited by dr. d; May 1st, 2022 at 09:40 AM.

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