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    #32301
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    What the heck Akala ko may natural immunity na. Nung kasi nag overlap covid namin ng Mom ko, sabi ng infectious disease doctor we can stay in one room, yung pulmonologist ayaw, yung IM pwede daw pero mag mask kami pag maglalapit. I followed the infectious disease doctor, hindi naman umulit or nag extend yung covid symptoms ko. How much longer will I be a prisoner at home kaya Anyway, pahatid ko na nga lang mga pastries/cake [emoji24]

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    Pag ikaw naghatid ng cakes and pastries diretso sa basurahab yun dinala mo, matakot mga dadalhan mo [emoji23]


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    #32302
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Pag ikaw naghatid ng cakes and pastries diretso sa basurahab yun dinala mo, matakot mga dadalhan mo [emoji23]


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    Hahaha. Hindi naman, kasi isa dun yung childhood bff ko, siya tumakbo sa mercury to buy the meds my pulmo told me to take since I can't get a room sa hospital. Super paranoid germophobe din yun pero during my sickness she would bring over fruits for us pa (aside from buying the meds I needed) Though lahat iniiwan lang sa may gate

    Pero that is one reason kaya hindi ko pinagsabi na nagka covid ako. Alam ko I will get discriminated

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    #32303
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I have a question. Since I officially recovered from covid on Sep 7, I should have natural immunity diba? Does that mean if I go out I will not catch covid or if I catch it I will be asymptomatic? I am so traumatized na kasi to go out (having caught covid even if I was careful/no lapses)

    My Mom wants to send pastries/cakes to our family and friends as a thank you for their support/prayers. I would prefer to deliver it personally but I am scared to go out. If possible I will not go out anymore until the pandemic ends kasi I can have meds delivered na pala and that is the main reason why I go out once a month and I make side trip na lang to the grocery or wet market. Mom says I shouldn't let covid stop me from living but I don't know how else I can protect myself e.
    the medical literature is full of reports of people catching covid more than once. my colleague is one such, having caught two of them in the span of 4 months. verified even, by the laboratory.
    and as she's a senior citizen, there's probably nothing wrong with her immune system.
    i am sure i can find an explanation if i google long enough.
    but not now.
    later siguro.
    i have many things to do today....

    and yes,
    tama siya.
    pa deliver mo na lang.
    the less exposure to you, the potentially more acceptable for them.
    Last edited by dr. d; September 22nd, 2021 at 08:17 AM.

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    #32305
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    the medical literature is full of reports of people catching covid more than once. my colleague is one such, having caught two of them in the span of 4 months. verified even, by the laboratory.
    and as she's a senior citizen, there's probably nothing wrong with her immune system.
    i am sure i can find an explanation if i google long enough.
    but not now.
    later siguro.
    i have many things to do today....

    and yes,
    tama siya.
    pa deliver mo na lang.
    the less exposure to you, the potentially more acceptable for them.
    Pero doc ano yung timeline? I'd understand kung 6 mos or more after pero yung 1 or 2 mos after meron ba? BTW nag google na rin ako but I want first hand information from people or scientific answer on how the virus works. Sabi sakin 14 days lang sa katawan yung virus. Possible ba yun sep 1 to 14 may covid ka tapos sep 16 mahawa at magka symptoms or positive ulit?

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    #32306
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Pero doc ano yung timeline? I'd understand kung 6 mos or more after pero yung 1 or 2 mos after meron ba? BTW nag google na rin ako but I want first hand information from people or scientific answer on how the virus works. Sabi sakin 14 days lang sa katawan yung virus. Possible ba yun sep 1 to 14 may covid ka tapos sep 16 mahawa at magka symptoms or positive ulit?

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    one article gave a re-infection interval of 41 days.

    it is dangerous for me to give a definite timeline number,
    because if i give one, pilosopo-like, let's say, 2 weeks,
    the layman will think day 15 is a totally new day for him, completely bereft of the previous day's medical history..
    hey! i'm not targeting you. i'm targeting our myriad of avid generic readers out there, whose sole claim to medical education is "MASH or Quincy, M.E.". heh heh.
    apologies. jok lang po.

    the bottom line is, "we do not know."
    but if we take what we know from other similar coronaviruses, the immunity confered by previous infection can last 3-6 months.
    but there are always exceptions to the rule, what with the kabute-like appearance of new variants with new antigenic properties... new variants can conceivably circumvent the immunity confered by previous infection.
    also, each body behaves differently from the other body. iba-iba ang immunity levels natin, even as we got infected by the identical virus variant.

    google is ok naman, provided one knows which articles are gold and which are iron pyrite.
    one possible problem, in my opinion, is the loss of certain crucial details between the researcher's words and the journalist's article. for some reason, the writer missed out on some fine details during translation.
    and even 'scientists' can make mistakes. remember that research article that was retracted a week after it was first published? the one that so-called anti-vaxxers labeled, "the vaccine study they don't want you to see". it was seen by over 380,000 folks before it was retracted. (see my post here, #32119.)

    just remember the axiom in vaccination,
    "get vaccinated (or in your case, if you got infected and subsequently recover), then act as if you are not vaccinated".
    Last edited by dr. d; September 22nd, 2021 at 11:06 AM.

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    #32307
    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    This is the importance of a covid vaccine.

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    #32308
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    This is the importance of a covid vaccine.
    yeah!
    from "get vaccinated and help achieve national herd immunity",
    it's now "get vaccinated and protect yourself from serious complications".

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    #32309
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    yeah!
    from "get vaccinated and help achieve national herd immunity",
    it's now "get vaccinated and protect yourself from serious complications".
    True..
    Kahit nawawa parin, it is not as severe as unvaccinated.

    Kaya make a serious decision...wisely!

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    #32310
    "Superhuman immunity"

    New Studies Find Evidence Of 'Superhuman' Immunity To COVID-19 In Some People : Goats and Soda : NPR

    People who have had a "hybrid" exposure to the virus. Specifically, they were infected with the coronavirus in 2020 and then immunized with mRNA vaccines this year. "Those people have amazing responses to the vaccine," says virologist Theodora Hatziioannou at Rockefeller University, who also helped lead several of the studies. "I think they are in the best position to fight the virus. The antibodies in these people's blood can even neutralize SARS-CoV-1, the first coronavirus, which emerged 20 years ago. That virus is very, very different from SARS-CoV-2."

    In fact, these antibodies were even able to deactivate a virus engineered, on purpose, to be highly resistant to neutralization. This virus contained 20 mutations that are known to prevent SARS-CoV-2 antibodies from binding to it. Antibodies from people who were only vaccinated or who only had prior coronavirus infections were essentially useless against this mutant virus. But antibodies in people with the "hybrid immunity" could neutralize it.

    These findings show how powerful the mRNA vaccines can be in people with prior exposure to SARS-CoV-2, she says. "There's a lot of research now focused on finding a pan-coronavirus vaccine that would protect against all future variants. Our findings tell you that we already have it.

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    #32311
    All of my friends who got covid just stayed home. All of them are fully vaccinated. Some have symptoms (slight cough/itchy throad, slight fever), some lost their taste and smell. But most were asymptomatic. Parang nagbakasyon lang daw sila ng 2 weeks.......sa bahay.
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    #32312
    the 'highlander syndrome' is nothing new.
    there are many fully functional centenarians among us.
    alas, their secrets continue to befuddle us.

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    #32313
    to get that "superhuman immunity" the catch is you need to be infected (and survive) before you got vaccinated

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    #32314
    So to get this kind of "Superhuman immunity" you need to be at least infected before administering dose of vaccine?

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    #32315
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    So to get this kind of "Superhuman immunity" you need to be at least infected before administering dose of vaccine?
    Yup. Survive infection first then get an mRNA vaccine. Not really a good way to go about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    to get that "superhuman immunity" the catch is you need to be infected (and survive) before you got vaccinated
    Bonus at least ng mga survivors hehe.

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    #32316
    The study was conducted specifically for those who recceived nRNA vaccines. Paano yung naka SINOVAC?
    Hatziioannou and colleagues don't know if everyone who has had COVID-19 and then an mRNA vaccine will have such a remarkable immune response. "We've only studied the phenomena with a few patients because it's extremely laborious and difficult research to do," she says.

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    #32317
    i'm sure may effect din pag sinovac

    ung 1st dose vaccine (no matter what brand) will act as a booster in previously infected people

    tapos ung 2nd dose another booster

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    #32318
    DILG appeals for people to wear their vaccination cards when going outside
    The DILG is asking the public to wear their vax cards on a lanyard around their necks[emoji43]*[emoji94]
    Sunod nya, ipipag line up single column one arms length from the person in front[emoji3061]


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    #32319
    Hahaha!!!! Pasusotin kayo I.D. mukha kayo tanga nyan.

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    #32320
    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    DILG appeals for people to wear their vaccination cards when going outside
    The DILG is asking the public to wear their vax cards on a lanyard around their necks[emoji43]*[emoji94]
    Sunod nya, ipipag line up single column one arms length from the person in front[emoji3061]


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    Is this a black mirror episode?

    They should make the cards smaller so it can fit in a wallet. Mine is the size of an index card.


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