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    #32101
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    I wonder how restaurants are screening for vaccinated people for their dine in customers. Madali mag fake ng vaccination record lalo na ngayon walang standard ang mga LGU.

    Although I'm not planning to dine in anytime soon.
    Although some LGUs have a online record or database of their residents who took doses before. This might be foolproof. I think Manila, Makati has this.. I'm not sure on QC and other cities..

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    #32102
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    Although some LGUs have a online record or database of their residents who took doses before. This might be foolproof. I think Manila, Makati has this.. I'm not sure on QC and other cities..
    Yes, but there are some people that will dine in on other city/LGU. Also other people like my wife who got their vaccine from other city, also people like me who got vaccine from my company, not LGU. I believe all LGU and organizations that facilitated the vaccination have their own records. The challenge is merging all these records into 1 so that there will be less way to fake them.

    I hope they roll out vaxcert.ph to all not just OFW.

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    #32103
    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    That’s why I firmly believe that with the airborne nature of Covid, it takes more than a mask to protect. It has to be a very good mask.


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    And make sure you don't touch the surface of your mask and faceshield.
    Mukhang big factor yan kasi I always see people adjusting their masks by touching the front part.
    We also wash our faceshields with soap every after use

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    #32104
    Quote Originally Posted by Papajamba View Post
    And make sure you don't touch the surface of your mask and faceshield.
    Mukhang big factor yan kasi I always see people adjusting their masks by touching the front part.
    We also wash our faceshields with soap every after use
    Marami akong lapses pagdating sa personal biosecurity. May time na hindi ko napagmask yung tumulong sakin sa trabaho tapos inuubo pala. Pina register ko yung sasakyan pero hindi ko na wipe down & sanitze after. Madami pa pero complacency na lang kalaban ko.


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    #32105
    my face shield is the welding-type plastic model from sm.
    i frequently forget to wear it, as it is as easy to don on and off, as an ordinary hat.

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    #32106
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Yes, but there are some people that will dine in on other city/LGU. Also other people like my wife who got their vaccine from other city, also people like me who got vaccine from my company, not LGU. I believe all LGU and organizations that facilitated the vaccination have their own records. The challenge is merging all these records into 1 so that there will be less way to fake them.

    I hope they roll out vaxcert.ph to all not just OFW.
    Nasa DOH database (vaxcert.ph) na vaccination record naming family. Hindi lang OFWs ang nasa database nila. You just need to select 'travelling' para ma-access mo.
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    #32107
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Nasa DOH database (vaxcert.ph) na vaccination record naming family. Hindi lang OFWs ang nasa database nila. You just need to select 'travelling' para ma-access mo.
    when i tried it some days ago, i couldn't get past step 2...

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    #32108
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    when i tried it some days ago, i couldn't get past step 2...
    i tried it just now

    umabot ako sa generate vaccine certificate

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    #32109
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    when i tried it some days ago, i couldn't get past step 2...
    When did you get your 2nd dose? We were done with out 2nd dose last May pa. Maybe wala pa sa database mga later vaccinations.
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    #32110
    U.S. shipping 2.58 million more COVID-19 vaccine doses to Philippines

    The U.S. government will begin shipping 2.58 million more doses of COVID-19 vaccine to the Philippines on Thursday through the COVAX global distribution program, a White House official said on Thursday.
    more Pfizer. probably for the 12-17 age group.

    Over 600K AstraZeneca jabs procured by private sector arrive in Philippines | Philstar.com

    Over half a million doses of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine procured by the private sector arrived in the Philippines on Friday.
    Astra vaccine that the private sector had procured has arrived.
    Last edited by ale828; September 17th, 2021 at 02:16 PM.

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    #32111
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Yes, but there are some people that will dine in on other city/LGU. Also other people like my wife who got their vaccine from other city, also people like me who got vaccine from my company, not LGU. I believe all LGU and organizations that facilitated the vaccination have their own records. The challenge is merging all these records into 1 so that there will be less way to fake them.

    I hope they roll out vaxcert.ph to all not just OFW.
    is the vaxcert registration exclusive for OFWs only? I might register soon. They will also give you another proof of fully vaccination right?

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    #32112
    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    Marami akong lapses pagdating sa personal biosecurity.

    Madami pa pero complacency na lang kalaban ko.

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    Same here, still have some lapses in biosecurity. Lapses usually happen to me during work and times of stress and when i am in a hurry. One of my most common lapses if forgetting to bring my own ballpen. i do prefer using my own pen rather than using the ones given by the establishment just for precautions.

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    #32113
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    is the vaxcert registration exclusive for OFWs only? I might register soon. They will also give you another proof of fully vaccination right?
    just choose travel, enter the correct info, and you'll see you're already in the database

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    #32114
    COVID-19 vaccines kill two people for every three they save (mRNA)

    Attention Required!

    why retract the paper directly, considering it passed peer-review?

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    #32115
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    COVID-19 vaccines kill two people for every three they save (mRNA)

    Attention Required!

    why retract the paper directly, considering it passed peer-review?
    if there was no reason given,
    i would not even attempt to guess, why this particular paper was retracted.
    maybe your suspicion is spot on.
    but then again,
    maybe you're way off beyond all imagination..

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    #32116
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    COVID-19 vaccines kill two people for every three they save (mRNA)

    Attention Required!

    why retract the paper directly, considering it passed peer-review?
    Because another paper disproved it.

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    #32117
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Because another paper disproved it.
    one paper disproving another paper, or having the opposite conclusion of the other, is a common-enough occurrence in the industry.
    it does not usually result in paper retraction.
    on the contrary, it may even generate interest and further research on the topic.

    if this is the real reason for the retraction,
    there must have been a very compelling, 'fatal' reason for it.
    i am wondering, what that might be, in this case.

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    #32118
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    one paper disproving another paper, or having the opposite conclusion of the other, is a common-enough occurrence in the industry.
    it does not usually result in paper retraction.
    on the contrary, it may even generate interest and further research on the topic.

    if this is the real reason for the retraction,
    there must have been a very compelling, 'fatal' reason for it.
    i am wondering, what that might be, in this case.
    It could be that another reseacrh group sent a letter to the journal that refuted the result and conclusion so thoroughly that the original author had to withdraw it. In common speech, tore it a new one. Or someone found ethical lapses on the methodology.

    Remember that stem cell research by that SoKor cloning scientist?

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    #32119
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    It could be that another reseacrh group sent a letter to the journal that refuted the result and conclusion so thoroughly that the original author had to withdraw it. In common speech, tore it a new one. Or someone found ethical lapses on the methodology.

    Remember that stem cell research by that SoKor cloning scientist?
    yes,
    a paper that is convincingly and roundly proven to be erroneous, is reason for retraction.
    retraction is apparently good for the industry, because it tends to minimize useless and expensive research, i.e., buillding up on the erroneous research.

    google presents several reasons for paper retraction.
    data manufacture, dishonesty, plagiarism, and unethical procedure, are up there.

    so, does anyone know why the paper was retracted?

    ADDENDUM.
    earlier printed in the journal, "Vaccines", the paper had since been retracted.
    it was published june 24, 2021, and was retracted july 2, 2021.
    at the time of its retraction, it had been viewed over 380,000 times.

    i googled for the reason, and i came up with these tidbits from the BMJ July 7, 2021.
    the data was apparently misrepresented.
    a classic case of GIGO.
    garbage in, garbage out.
    a number of the editorial board members had since resigned. one of them said, "it is grossly negligent and i can't believe it passed peer review".
    "none of the three authors had background in vaccinology, virology, or epidemiology."
    it contained several errors that fundamentally affected the interpretation of the findings.
    from what i understood, reading the retraction explanation,
    a major flaw was that the associated adverse effects of vaccination were interpreted as causal effects, which is fundamentally inaccurate.
    in laymen's terms, "pag may nangyari pagkatapos nang bakunahan, real or imagined, which anyone and anyone can report, without the need for medical verification, cause-and-effect na yan and nothing else". the possibility of coincidence or unrelated event, "or plain overreactive imagination" (my words) was apparently not entertained, in my opinion.
    there were also other flaws mentioned at the end of the retraction statement that i read.

    anti-vaxx activists were having a field day, citing "the vaccine study you're not allowed to see".
    now that i read the explanation, i agree with them! this retracted paper should not be allowed to see the light of day, to un-informed readers.
    but it is a good example of a badly-researched paper. research scholars should read this as part of their training on what not to do.
    heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; September 17th, 2021 at 08:29 PM.

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    #32120
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    COVID-19 vaccines kill two people for every three they save (mRNA)

    Attention Required!

    why retract the paper directly, considering it passed peer-review?
    kags,
    see my post above.
    #32119.

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