China Corona Virus Outbreak

[BratPAQ]

doc i'm not saying there's something wrong with the test itself

it's the timing of the swab

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the test is only as good as the specimen you feed it

if the specimen doesn't have virus genes, then it's negative

it's not the fault of the test

personally,
i do not think it is the test itself that may be at fault..
i believe it is the "something else".

I think what the Doc is saying is some if not most of it must be fake test result. 52 negative then positive hours later are too many in one group too many to attribute to an error.

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[baludoy]

Ingenious way to encourage inoculation and to increase the number of live spectators in the arena

Milwaukee Bucks to offer COVID-19 vaccine to fans at arena

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Ingenious way to encourage inoculation and to increase the number of live spectators in the arena

Milwaukee Bucks to offer COVID-19 vaccine to fans at arena

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Eh kung payagan na kasi dito commercialize para bumaha na vaccines at yun kayang magbayad magbayad na hinde ka kailangan antayin libre sa govt.

Alisin na yan 1 for 1 vaccine. Kalokohan.


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Eventually ganito na rin sana dito.

Coronavirus: Hong Kong’s new ‘vaccine bubble’ arrangement to simultaneously relax, complicate rules for bars and restaurants | South China Morning Post

By next year sana pag wala ka bakuna bawal na papasukin sa lahat ng establishments.


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[viper888]

Eventually ganito na rin sana dito.

Coronavirus: Hong Kong’s new ‘vaccine bubble’ arrangement to simultaneously relax, complicate rules for bars and restaurants | South China Morning Post

By next year sana pag wala ka bakuna bawal na papasukin sa lahat ng establishments.


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Hopefully we vaccinate enough to be able to implement that idea

Otherwise only Mary Grace can have fully vaccinated customers

[dr. d]

I think what the Doc is saying is some if not most of it must be fake test result. 52 negative then positive hours later are too many in one group too many to attribute to an error.

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i would be very interested in finding out which labs issued those 52 negative test reports...

[uls]

I think what the Doc is saying is some if not most of it must be fake test result. 52 negative then positive hours later are too many in one group too many to attribute to an error.

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ok kung fake ung PCR test na papel

pero kung hindi fake -- i'm still saying PCR test is not 100% reliable coz there's a time frame when the virus is present for the swab to pick up

too early or too late mag ne-negative yan

and i'm not saying the test itself isn't reliable

it's the timing of the swab

PCR is extremely sensitive kaya malabo mag negative yan kung may virus nakuha sa swab

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Hopefully we vaccinate enough to be able to implement that idea

Otherwise only Mary Grace can have fully vaccinated customers

Bakit Mary Gracem lang? I don't get it.


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[uls]

i would be very interested in finding out which labs issued those 52 negative test reports...

flight from india to hk

negative daw bago umalis sa india

positive after dumating sa hk

doc, why would you be interested which indian lab it is?

[dr. d]

flight from india to hk

negative daw bago umalis sa india

positive after dumating sa hk

doc, why would you be interested which indian lab it is?

if only one lab issued them 52 reports....
it might be traced to a system error,
and it is probably not limited to only 52 "erroneous" reports...

[uls]

Valid naman yung possibilities kung saan na infect at most kikely nay mga fake na test. Sa oz yung nagpositive sa Perth sa hotel nakuha.

ung mga nangyari sa oz and nz

sa hotel nag hawaan

magkaharap lang ang quarantine rooms

so pag meron may virus sa 1 room, mahahawa ung sa tapat na room

coz they all use the same corridor

the virus lingers in the air

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ung mga nangyari sa oz and nz

sa hotel nag hawaan

magkaharap lang ang quarantine rooms

so pag meron may virus sa 1 room, mahahawa ung sa tapat na room

coz they all use the same corridor

the virus lingers in the air

Akala ko ba bawal lumabas ng room sa mga hotels?


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[viper888]

Bakit Mary Gracem lang? I don't get it.


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Most customers are seniors

Though there are many middle aged titas as well

[uls]

if only one lab issued them 52 reports....
it might be traced to a system error,
and it is probably not limited to only 52 "erroneous" reports...

what are the chances that all 52 passengers got tested in the same lab?

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if india can report 300,000 positive cases per day they must processing more than 1 million PCR tests per day (unless their data includes rapid antigen tests)

they must have thousands of labs to do that kind of volume

[dr. d]

what are the chances that all 52 passengers got tested in the same lab?

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if india can report 300,000 positive cases per day they must processing more than 1 million PCR tests per day (unless their data includes rapid antigen tests)

they must have thousands of labs to do that kind of volume

what are the chances, that all those 52 reports, were issued by the same laboratory?
if i were the investigating authority, it would be questionable on my part, if i swept them all under the rug of plausibility, without first mounting an investigation...

[uls]

Akala ko ba bawal lumabas ng room sa mga hotels?


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nag oopen ng door para magpa-swab

so let's say lumabas ng door ung carrier para ma-swab

the virus in room will escape tsaka ung exhalation during the swab

then after a few minutes ung tapat na room naman i-swab...

[Wh1stl3r]

Most customers are seniors

Though there are many middle aged titas as well

Buti pala di na kami kumakain doon. [emoji28]

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[Wh1stl3r]

Re: hawahan sa hotels maybe the air ducts of the rooms go through the same AHU.

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[uls]

what are the chances, that all those 52 reports, were issued by the same laboratory?
if i were the investigating authority, it would be questionable on my part, if i swept them all under the rug of plausibility.

una ung speculation na fake ang PCR test

another speculation the tests really took place but all 52 negative results are lab error coz all 52 got tested in the same lab

ok.........

[dr. d]

una ung speculation na fake ang PCR test

another speculation the tests really took place but all 52 negative results are lab error coz all 52 got tested in the same lab

ok.........

even in our local setting,
some laboratories have already spoken out, that their RT-PCR reports are being faked by unscrupulous entities.

some days ago,
someones here posted their antibody levels from a famous tertiary hospital laboratory.
the paper had conspicuous typo errors,
and i immediately suspected fakery.
but the post-er said they were genuine.