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    #22941
    One of the reasons why private entities want to involve themselves in the procurement of vaccines is to ensure the safety of their employees & in effect, their businesses. They see that the Gov’t cannot do it themselves & it will take a LOT of time for the vaccines to reach their sector. Time lost which the economy cannot afford. Caveat, of course, is to split it with the Gov’t & the indemnification doesn’t cover their procurement.


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    #22942
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    I'd rather the mayors and other local leaders jump the line hindi tulad ng ibang mayors dyan na nakatago at takot sa COVID hindi na nagagawa maayos trabaho nila.

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    Saka sa kanila naman pinapasa yun trabaho ng covid ng inutil na national govt. Mag labas sila ng guidelines na open na lahat pero problema na ng mga Mayors kung pag dumamali case.


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    #22943
    Nasalita nanaman pala yun inutil kagabi.


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    #22944
    Kunti lang ang difference...

    Astra Lowers Covid Vaccine Efficacy to 76% After U.S. Criticism - Bloomberg

    AstraZeneca Plc reported a slightly lower efficacy rate for its Covid-19 vaccine after the results of an American clinical trial were criticized as outdated, raising further questions over the controversial shot and whether it will be approved in the U.S.

    The company said the shot was 76% effective in its U.S. trial in a statement on Thursday, after an independent monitoring board expressed concern that its previous disclosure of 79% efficacy relied on outdated information. The earlier reading was based on data gathered through Feb. 17.

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    #22945
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    they risked ruining their image ang chance of EUA for that small difference

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    problema kasi masyado mataas ang bar set by the 2 mRNA vaccines (over 90% efficacy)

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    #22946
    don't get me wrong, I'm all for mayors getting vaccinated kasi nga sila talaga ang humaharap sa mga tao at sa tingin ko sila ang talagang nag trabaho nitong pandemic.

    but where would they fall in this category?

    "Under prioritization roadmap of the WHO, the first to receive the vaccines should be the healthcare workers, elderly and people with comorbidities.

    “If we want to ensure that we continue to access the vaccines from the Covax facility, we need to demonstrate that we can follow this prioritization,” WHO country representative Dr. Rabindra Abeyasinghe said in a virtual briefing."

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    #22947
    Quote Originally Posted by Tha_Mann View Post
    don't get me wrong, I'm all for mayors getting vaccinated kasi nga sila talaga ang humaharap sa mga tao at sa tingin ko sila ang talagang nag trabaho nitong pandemic.

    but where would they fall in this category?

    "Under prioritization roadmap of the WHO, the first to receive the vaccines should be the healthcare workers, elderly and people with comorbidities.

    “If we want to ensure that we continue to access the vaccines from the Covax facility, we need to demonstrate that we can follow this prioritization,” WHO country representative Dr. Rabindra Abeyasinghe said in a virtual briefing."
    Ako naman, these mayors have to first prove they are frontliners through their deeds and actions and then they go through the proper process of getting the authorization/exemption to skip the line. In addition, they should also prove that there are no other medical frontliners/other frontlines in their area that needs the vaccine more. If they fulfill all these criteria, then by all means go for it and they will be lauded for it.

    There is a problem when these mayors start pressuring the local workers there that they be given this CHINA WUHAN VIRUS vaccine first.

    Siyempre, matatanggihan ba ng kawawang local worker ang mayor nila?

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    #22948
    Quote Originally Posted by Tha_Mann View Post
    palakasan talaga dito.

    nagtaka nga din ako bakit mga mayors eh nagpa vaccine, hindi naman sila HCWs. specific ang sinabi ng WHO about sa priority ng donated vaccine and hindi sila mauuna dun kahit na frontliner sila, parang nasa 4th yata sa list yun.
    I am quite sure there are a lot more of those privileged few who has skipped the queue to get the vaccine. Yung mga mautak diyan won't post it in Socmed kasi alam nila na bawal at madami magagalit sa ginawa nila.

    if it was sinovac being injected to them, they could always claim na ayaw na ng remaining HCW magbakuna sa sinovac and hinihitay yung Astrazeneca. kaysa masayang yung vaccine na bukas na, naghanap na lang sila ng ibang priority group na pwede for vaccination in such a short time. kailagan nila ubusin yung vaccine rather than ibalik pa sa provincial capital for storage.

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    #22949
    Governors, mayors, barangay captains moved up in vaccination priority list —DILG

    Ngayon lang naisip ng mga inutil?


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    Ni hindi pa pala natuturok kahit 50% man lang ng dumating na donations.

    Where is the sense of urgency?!

    Last and slowest | Inquirer Opinion

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    #22952
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post


    we are the first humans to encounter this virus kaya masama epekto

    later generations will have antibodies and this worse-than-flu infection to us will be just a common cold to them

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    #22953
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Better than Ivermectin


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    #22954
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Ni hindi pa pala natuturok kahit 50% man lang ng dumating na donations.

    Where is the sense of urgency?!

    Last and slowest | Inquirer Opinion

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    500k a month. Project that to 70 million for herd immunity. By the time we reach 70 million eh iba na variants ang kalaban natin.

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    #22955
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Ni hindi pa pala natuturok kahit 50% man lang ng dumating na donations.

    Where is the sense of urgency?!

    Last and slowest | Inquirer Opinion

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    I think it was protocol from the vaccine manufacturers that since it is two doses the 2nd doses is saved and waiting after several weeks before it is administered to the same person who got the 1st dose.
    They need to save the 2nd dose din kasi kasi hindi nila alam kailan dadating yung additional doses from the same vaccines.
    I think it was only the AstraZeneca vaccine that DOH and sec Duque wanted to use all the initial doses as 1st dose since it has a shorter shelf life compared to sinovac and that the interval between the 2 doses can be spread to several weeks, more than those recommended by Sinovac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    I think it was protocol from the vaccine manufacturers that since it is two doses the 2nd doses is saved and waiting after several weeks before it is administered to the same person who got the 1st dose.
    They need to save the 2nd dose din kasi kasi hindi nila alam kailan dadating yung additional doses from the same vaccines.
    I think it was only the AstraZeneca vaccine that DOH and sec Duque wanted to use all the initial doses as 1st dose since it has a shorter shelf life compared to sinovac and that the interval between the 2 doses can be spread to several weeks, more than those recommended by Sinovac.
    that is also what i understood for sinovac.
    the second dose is kept inside the hospital's refrigerators, to be brought out at the appropriate time, for the appropriate arm.

    i do not know how it is with the astra.
    i vaguely remember hearing that their second dose is also inside the refrigerators, and will not be expired yet by the time the second dose is due.
    planning that the second dose will still be imported, in time for the second dose, is... not re-assuring..
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    Fort Bonifacio sa Taguig no. 1 sa COVID-19 cases simula last week sa bansa ? OCTA | Pilipino Star Ngayon

    barangay Fort Bonifacio has the highest case in the country.
    does this include kaya the low income houses found in the edges of fort BGC? or is Barangay Fort Bonifacio all inside fort BGC?

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    #22958
    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    500k a month. Project that to 70 million for herd immunity. By the time we reach 70 million eh iba na variants ang kalaban natin.

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    Grabe lag. Lumipat na sa kabilang bahay yung sunog pero nagiipon pa rin ng tubig. The bottlenecks should be addressed before the actual vaccine purchases arrive. Baka mamaya saka pa lang mag-iisip paano gagawin ulit pag millions of doses na yung dumating.

    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    I think it was protocol from the vaccine manufacturers that since it is two doses the 2nd doses is saved and waiting after several weeks before it is administered to the same person who got the 1st dose.
    They need to save the 2nd dose din kasi kasi hindi nila alam kailan dadating yung additional doses from the same vaccines.
    I think it was only the AstraZeneca vaccine that DOH and sec Duque wanted to use all the initial doses as 1st dose since it has a shorter shelf life compared to sinovac and that the interval between the 2 doses can be spread to several weeks, more than those recommended by Sinovac.
    But 400k more doses arrived already. They gotta move faster.

    Philippines receives 4, more Sinovac doses from China
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    Shadow pwede ka na mag dine out 😂



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    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    Fort Bonifacio sa Taguig no. 1 sa COVID-19 cases simula last week sa bansa ? OCTA | Pilipino Star Ngayon

    barangay Fort Bonifacio has the highest case in the country.
    does this include kaya the low income houses found in the edges of fort BGC? or is Barangay Fort Bonifacio all inside fort BGC?
    Not at all surprised if it's spreading within BGC. Drove aroundd Burgos Circle area last month akala mo walang virus sa dami ng tao sa labas. Meron pang mga speak easy bar na nag hohold ng parties! Buti na lang ni-report ng mga kapitbahay and it got shut down, but who knows what else is happening there.

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