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    #22401
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    tsikoteers,

    sa mga ayaw magvaccine or anti-vaxxers,

    Lianhua quingwen jiaonang

    Lysine - This one I hope eh makawala ng symptoms

    Ivermectin = Ito kailangan doctor magdosage
    linhua helps with the alleviation of symptoms. it has no effect whatever, on the virus.

    lysine and ivermectin.
    are these scientifically supported?
    from what i understand, researchers haven't yet made up their minds about ivermectin. some say yeigh, and an equal number cry neigh.
    and while lysine in the molecule has been identified as a significant step in countering the virus, it is, to me, a bit of a stretch to think lysine in the stomach, will significantly enhance lysine in the molecule.

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    #22402
    Uminom ka nga Kags ng ivec ako magbayad.


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    #22403
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Uminom ka nga Kags ng ivec ako magbayad.


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    double the dose!
    sagot ko yung isa pang dose.
    my vet colleague has some samples in his clinic.

    it is a good anti-parasitic. so kahit papano, kags will benefit from its use.

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    #22404
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    tsikoteers,

    sa mga ayaw magvaccine or anti-vaxxers,

    Lianhua quingwen jiaonang

    Lysine - This one I hope eh makawala ng symptoms

    Ivermectin = Ito kailangan doctor magdosage
    dr. d:
    linhua helps with the alleviation of symptoms. it has no effect whatever, on the virus.
    lysine and ivermectin.
    are these scientifically supported?
    from what i understand, researchers haven't yet made up their minds about ivermectin. some say yeigh, and an equal number cry neigh.
    and while lysine in the molecule has been identified as a significant step in countering the virus, it is, to me, a bit of a stretch to think lysine in the stomach, will significantly enhance lysine in the molecule.
    from what i gather from viber groups, zooms... people are afraid dahil sa surge in cases

    since wala pa bakuna for general population, people are thinking ahead ano gagawin nila pag nagka-covid (para di ma-ospital, para maka-survive)

    ung interest for ivermectin boomed recently kahit last year ko pa nabasa ung tungkol sa ivermectin for covid (used by doctors in other countries usually poor countries)

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    #22405
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    double the dose!
    sagot ko yung isa pang dose.
    my vet colleague has some samples in his clinic.

    it is a good anti-parasitic. so kahit papano, kags will benefit from its use.
    I second and third and fourth.... the motion

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    #22406
    Nagbago yata policy sa DOH, pag suspected covid 19 ka at admitted na sa gpvt hospital due to symptoms and xray, blood test hindi kana iswab, i treat kana as covid positive, sa 14th day ka i swab.

    Mas madami na yata talaga ang may covid kaysa sa reported daily case.

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    #22407
    sigurado madami may covid unreported

    tip of the iceberg lang mga reported cases

    ung supplier ng rapid test sabi bigla lumakas ang demand

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    #22408
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Nagbago yata policy sa DOH, pag suspected covid 19 ka at admitted na sa gpvt hospital due to symptoms and xray, blood test hindi kana iswab, i treat kana as covid positive, sa 14th day ka i swab.

    Mas madami na yata talaga ang may covid kaysa sa reported daily case.
    some writers think the asymptomatics comprise 5% to 80% of the covid-infected.
    that is why, masks are de rigueur.

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    #22409
    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    Mon Tulfo claims Sinas already vaccinated vs. COVID-19

    Nabakunahan na pala ng CHINA WUHAN VIRUS country baksin itong si Sinas
    hindi daw sabi ni mananita sinas:

    PNP chief denies being vaccinated | Philstar.com

    A security official who spoke on condition of anonymity said the police chief remains asymptomatic, which means he has not manifested any symptom of the virus, and is doing his daily exercise routines to keep himself in shape.
    malamang na na baksin na nga si sinas kaya siya asymptomatic

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    #22410
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    dr. d:


    from what i gather from viber groups, zooms... people are afraid dahil sa surge in cases

    since wala pa bakuna for general population, people are thinking ahead ano gagawin nila pag nagka-covid (para di ma-ospital, para maka-survive)

    ung interest for ivermectin boomed recently kahit last year ko pa nabasa ung tungkol sa ivermectin for covid (used by doctors in other countries usually poor countries)
    it's the "any port in a storm" syndrome.
    or, "every little bit, helps".
    or, "what harm can it do?".

    i have nothing against its use, except its cost, and the occasional side-effect.
    but people should be made aware of the situation, lest it endow them with a sub-conscious false sense of security, as to loosen up the disciplines and start indulging in "rash" activity.
    a perfect example is self-confessed kags.
    Last edited by dr. d; March 19th, 2021 at 12:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it's the "any port in a storm" syndrome.
    or, "every little bit, helps".
    or, "what harm can it do?".

    i have nothing against its use, except its cost, and the occasional side-effect.
    but people should be made aware of the situation, lest it endow them with a sub-conscious false sense of security, as to loosen up the disciplines and start indulging in "rash" activity.
    kaya nagtatalo 2 camps (those who believe a cheap drug like ivermectin works vs those who don't)

    umaabot sa usapang conspiracy theory

    like this pandemic is a scam so big pharma can make tons of $$$ out of it (they call it scamdemic)

    says big pharma and gov't regulators are suppressing info that ivermectin works

    if there's cheap therapeutic for covid then there's no money to be made in vaccines and very expensive monoclonal antibodies and IL-6 blockers and remdesivir....

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    #22412
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kaya nagtatalo 2 camps (those who believe a cheap drug like ivermectin works vs those who don't)

    umaabot sa usapang conspiracy theory

    like this pandemic is a scam so big pharma can make tons of $$$ out of it (they call it scamdemic)

    says big pharma and gov't regulators are suppressing info that ivermectin works

    if there's cheap therapeutic for covid then there's no money to be made in vaccines and very expensive monoclonal antibodies and IL-6 blockers and remdesivir....
    it is in the nature of the humen, to seek out simpler and cheaper alternatives.
    hence the thriving cuyapo open-air drugstore chain,
    where they even have medication for non-diseases.

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    dr. d:
    but people should be made aware of the situation, lest it endow them with a sub-conscious false sense of security, as to loosen up the disciplines and start indulging in "rash" activity.
    a perfect example is self-confessed kags.

    yes that's a good point

    if one believes a cheap drug like ivermectin or a cheap amino acid like lysine works... one would become complacent thinking "hey i just bought those... they're in my medicine cabinet... i can easily beat this thing if i get it"

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    #22415
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kaya nagtatalo 2 camps (those who believe a cheap drug like ivermectin works vs those who don't)

    umaabot sa usapang conspiracy theory

    like this pandemic is a scam so big pharma can make tons of $$$ out of it (they call it scamdemic)

    says big pharma and gov't regulators are suppressing info that ivermectin works

    if there's cheap therapeutic for covid then there's no money to be made in vaccines and very expensive monoclonal antibodies and IL-6 blockers and remdesivir....
    conspiracy theory.
    it grows best in a garden fertilized by poor-quality information.

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    #22416
    now if only those vaccines will land on our tarmac

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    #22417
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    now if only those vaccines will land on our tarmac
    baka hindi sunduin...

    marami na kaya ang papayag magpa-sputnik?

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    #22418
    If may kasamang Russian models na mag promote ng vaccine, baka mauna ako magpaturok kung pwede. hehe

    Tapos may libre isang vodka shot na chaser after mo patusok.

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    #22419
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    baka hindi sunduin...

    marami na kaya ang papayag magpa-sputnik?


    well meron phase 3 data yan in a western medical journal

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    #22420
    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    If may kasamang Russian models na mag promote ng vaccine, baka mauna ako magpaturok kung pwede. hehe
    si ivan drago... or si ah-nuld...?

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