Big Horn/Trooper owners

**OTEP** · December 10th, 2003 10:21 AM

Pwede bang hindi invited si sir mauler? :D hehehehe. Hahantingin kita next time na dumalaw ako sa Scarborough.

**trup** · December 10th, 2003 02:02 PM

chronophile,
pareho pala tayo ng ride(V6 na local ), di ko pa pnakabet, balak ko kse papasabay ko nalang pag nagpa paint ako next year, nagi ipon muna ko ng parts then sabay sabay ko na papakabit. bought it at autospecs (as told by garyq) banawe

garyq,
i'm also looking for the side mouldings that otep mentioned

baka gamitin ko parin yung orig rear bumpers ko kse mataas yung step board ng euro bumper

**chronophile** · December 10th, 2003 06:14 PM

Originally posted by trup
chronophile,
pareho pala tayo ng ride(V6 na local ), di ko pa pnakabet, balak ko kse papasabay ko nalang pag nagpa paint ako next year, nagi ipon muna ko ng parts then sabay sabay ko na papakabit. bought it at autospecs (as told by garyq) banawe

garyq,
i'm also looking for the side mouldings that otep mentioned
baka gamitin ko parin yung orig rear bumpers ko kse mataas yung step board ng euro bumper

Galing lang akong banawe ngayong hapon. Pinalipat ko kasi sa loob ng engine bay yung Nautilus na ginaya ko kay OTEP. Can't find any rear mounted lamps. Sabi nung taga Siasy, pwede din daw yung pang-Pajero. Still thinking about it though kase baka hindi pulido ang pagbubutas.

Kamusta gasoline consumption mo trup? am ranging 3.8 to 4km/liter only, at 100% city driving. I suppose the automatic tranny aggravates the petrol hungry V6. Everytime I gas up, I keep wondering why I didn't get the diesel version of this local trooper. Saket sa bulsa!

**trup** · December 11th, 2003 12:11 AM

same lang yung pang pajero and trooper, meron ba sa siasy? sa autospecs ko kse nabili, 3500 asking price nila, yung sa pag butas basta pantay' kahit di gano kakinis kse matatakpan din nung black housing yung surrounding ng butas, bili kanalang ng magandang socket sa mga surplus shop(yung medyo sealed)

sa city pareho tyo ng consumo, halos di ko na nga apakan yung gas, pero pag kelangan mo naman ng power meron

parang ang sarap nga ng manual na v6 dba.

**chronophile** · December 11th, 2003 12:58 AM

Originally posted by trup
same lang yung pang pajero and trooper, meron ba sa siasy? sa autospecs ko kse nabili, 3500 asking price nila, yung sa pag butas basta pantay' kahit di gano kakinis kse matatakpan din nung black housing yung surrounding ng butas, bili kanalang ng magandang socket sa mga surplus shop(yung medyo sealed)

sa city pareho tyo ng consumo, halos di ko na nga apakan yung gas, pero pag kelangan mo naman ng power meron parang ang sarap nga ng manual na v6 dba.

Sabi ni Eddie, na taga Siasy, meron syang makukunan, sasamahan niya ako, so obvious na wala sya. Baka sa autospecs nga nya kukunin. Saan ba yung autospecs, pre? phone pls. and contact person. Sila din ba ang magkakabit? Kung nakabit mo na, can you post some pics?

Regarding gas consumption same here, pa-pitik-pitik na nga lang din tapak ko sa gas, hehehe. Meron bang lumabas na V6 gas M/T dito sa Pinas? Ang alam ko kase, yung mga binenta sa atin dito ng Isuzu sa Pinas na V6 gas 3.2L ay puro US version kaya puro A/T. Alam mo naman kung gaano ka-allergic sa manual ang mga mass market customers dun.

Sayang hindi natin naabutan yung huling labas na 3.5L version na gas with fly-by-wire throttle. Just curious kase tawag nila sa version ng 4x4 nun ay yung Torque on Demand, which from what I gather, is just a fancy name for a lame duck "real time four wheel drive" na we all know is not a real 4x4. Does that mean yung huling labas ng Trooper dun (as you probably know already, Trooper was discontinued last year in the States) sa US ay wala nang 4L and 4H transfer case tulad nung version natin???:D

**trup** · December 11th, 2003 01:38 AM

chrono,
visit mo www.isuzu-suvs.com, may explanation ng TOD dun. Base sa mga us review ng v6 3.2 15-18mpg, so mga 4 to 6 km/l nga rough estimate, cguro mas laklak yung 3.5 v6. La ako number ng autospecs, nasa corner sya ng banawe and dapitan, gnawa ko frm quezon ave, right sa sto domingo church, left sa dapitan, pag dating sa corner ng banawe/dapitan nasa harap mo na, bandang left. di ko pa kakabit, baka nxt year na while nasa shop.

tama ka, us version nga kse may cruise control and wala syang signal light sa fenders, iniba lang yung rear seats. i'm also looking for a 3 pt seat belt sa rear seats para mdyo modela nman ang dating. San ka nga pala ngapa paservice? and san ka bumubili ng parts?

**chronophile** · December 11th, 2003 12:40 PM

Yes Trup,

Saw that website before, that's where I learned na na-castrate nga yung part-time 4WD nung huling labas ng Trooper sa US and they downgraded it to TOD which is just a 2 wheel drive system that TEMPORARILY routes torque to the axle with traction when traction in 2WD is COMPLETELY LOST. In short, Honda CRV.

Tama lang naman yun, kase over 90% ng mga kano never take their SUVs offroad (guilty din ako dyan, hehehe).

Dati, dun ako nagpapa-service sa Isuzu Makati - parts and service, but I bring my own Oil. I use the imported TOTAL QUARTZ 5000. Lately I tried Isuzu Manila for PMS kase hindi ganun ka-hectic dun sa hapon, lalo kung early in the workweek.

Let me know din kung may mahanap kang 3pt seat belts para sa rear seats. Gusto do din nyan.:D Did not bother to ask sa Isuzu mismo kase alam kong harang ang presyo nila and besides baka kulay brown lang ang kaya nila i-supply whereas grey yung kelangan naten. What about the front facing third row seats? May napansen ka na bang nagbebenta dito sa maynila?

**trup** · December 11th, 2003 05:25 PM

about the seatbelts, asked isuzu commonwealth, beige lang daw meron kse even the crosswind and pick-up's lap belts lang sa likod except d-max so kelangan mag hanap sa mga surplus shops. The rear seats naman medyo complikado kse we need yung floor hooks na kakabitan ng locks nung seats and wala pa ko nakikita na rear seats for trooper plus yung rear grab handle where the straps will be strapped

ang gusto ko talaga ibahin sa ride natin is yung front end (grill, headlight, bumper) medyo outdated na kse ang dating. problem is pag nagpalit ng grill, palit din ng hood :c dont know what else to do sa front end to make it more stylish

**chronophile** · December 11th, 2003 08:15 PM

Trup,

Sawa ka na pala sa front end ng sasakyan. Thought about that too - changing the front grille and lamps - but you're right, kailangan ding palitan hindi lang yung hood, but also the fenders. Haven't asked sa Isuzu, but am sure that the whole procedure will cost more than P50K.

Anyway, okay pa rin naman sa akin yung orig look nya, kase it makes the vehicle look more boxy/angular and taller - exactly the kind of look I want in an SUV. But there are days that I also think about changing the front end.

I guess the Pajero fans with Gen 2 are in the same dilemma as us about changing theirs to the Gen 2.5 blister/flare look, but I'm sure it will be as prohibitive in terms of cost as well - that would be two fenders, two rear doors, two quarter panels (?), aside from the lamps, grills, etc.

You might also wanna look into changing the front end look by getting an ARB bumper. Asked at a local distributor, where I also got my OME coils and shocks. The ARB for our rig will cost roughly Php35K. Ouch! And the ARB with winch mount will cost Php40K+++. Double ouch!

BTW, have you considered dropping the V6 gas engine and changing into a diesel engine? Wonder how much a new diesel engine for our ride would cost???