Split Type Aircon: Which is best?

[swordsman]

Same room area, same manner of usage. 1HP to 2HP units. Alin ang the best in terms of efficiency in cooling performance, tipid sa kuryente, tibay, warranty, customer support and price, in the long run? I've seen the following brands sa showrooms:

- Carrier (#1 in the market daw)
- Kolin
- Panasonic (features an inverter daw)
- Mitsubishi
- Samsung
- General Electric
- Whirlpool

Most if not all offers free installation(includes copper tubes, etc) for a max of 10 feet only. Brackets are not free and usually around 3K.

[shadow]

we have panasonics at home..., so far ok naman...depende sa laki ng area just buy right power for the area

I think this has been discussed here extensively, search mo na lang and marami ka mababasa kung ano maganda....

[yebo]

there are some things that you will need to consider before installing a split type aircon.

1. room ventillation - only rooms that have sufficient air removal and make-up are suitable for split-type ac units. the removal of carbon dioxide rich air (by means of extraction/exhaust fans) and supply of fresh outside air are a must. failure to do so can lead to the accumulation of carbon dioxide in the enclosed room. in a window type ac this is already built into the unit, there is always some air from the room that is blown out through spaces in the internal ducting, and there is sufficient make-up air drawn in through the hole thru which the blower shaft goes through. there is no such thing in a split type unit. so if you are going to stay in that room, especially if you are going to sleep in it, think twice.

I have a personal experience on this. we had a split type ac unit in one of our offices on one of the rigs i was on. everyone in that office always felt dizzy all the time, me included. when measured the O2 level was down to 15% and the CO2 level was up to 6%.

2. cleaning - remember that in most installations of split type units the evaporator needs to be removed for cleaning, just like cleaning the ac evaporator in your car. make sure you factor in this added expense, something those sales agents will not tell you. now if you can make provisions for easy cleaning (like say extra big drains, easy accessible location) then why not go ahead.

[pup2]

Hay. Ito din ang pino-problema ko ngayon. Sa experience ko kasi, mas matibay talaga ang window-type na AC. Lahat halos ng split-type na na try ko wala pang tumatagal ng 6 years or more except those seldom used. Quite unlike our window-type ones na matagal ang serbisyo at mas madali pa i-maintain.

[Galactus]

I'm eyeing Panasonic's split-type AC's with Inverter Technology. According to their brochure, you can realize up to 35% savings in your electric bill. However, medyo mataas ang presyo, since their 1.5HP model is selling for 36k.

[swordsman]

I'm eyeing Panasonic's split-type AC's with Inverter Technology. According to their brochure, you can realize up to 35% savings in your electric bill. However, medyo mataas ang presyo, since their 1.5HP model is selling for 36k.

Curious din ako dun sa Inverter technology. Ang price nga lang medyo mahal, but around 2K lang yata difference if compared sa same HP ng Carrier. Kung maganda ang performance at matibay, sulit din siguro additional price. Interestingly, it comes with 5 years warranty and the compressor daw is Matsushita(maganda daw to sabi).

[projector]

mas prefer ko talaga window type para incase masira at kailangan palitan hassle free

slit type kac ung tube nya dapat mo itago sa loob ng semento or sa loob ng ceiling kaya incase tumulo o magkaproblem ang dami mo tatangalin.

ang aircon kasi every year halos meron bago. slit type parang pangpermanent na.

[oj88]

My only two incentives for going for split-types are:

a. Super silent operation
b. Comes in inverter models

[jov]

Hi meron na ba nakatry ng carrier brand aircon na inverter? They claim that they are almost 40% better compared to other japanese and korean brands.

[asb75]

Sa amin 1.5 HP LG window AC 8 years na namin ginamit, anag lamig pa din. very reliable.

[mda_]

finally had our split type installed. got a 2.5HP non-inverter LG. so far so good, cools the entire room, including our stairwells in just about 10 mins! let's see how long this goes

[mackingbird]

Just got the new i-power carrier inverter. May question sa mga naka inverter. Namamatay ba ang compressor pag na reach ang temp? Sa akin kasi namamatay. Need your inputs. Thanks

[fourtheboys96]

Just got the new i-power carrier inverter. May question sa mga naka inverter. Namamatay ba ang compressor pag na reach ang temp? Sa akin kasi namamatay. Need your inputs. Thanks

if you search google, one of the main difference of inverter AC is that its compressor just change speed as necessary to meet the required room temperature. its compressor does not stop and go lessening the temperature fluctuation in the room which is a characteristic of ordinary AC.

[mackingbird]

Thats was My knowledge before i bought carrier inverter but now it completely change because it actually turns its compressor on and off when it reach its temp and it is recurrent 10 mins ON and 5 mins OFF. So i wanted to know if other brands like panasonic etc were also like this.

[Retz]

Totoo bang mas makakatipid ang inverter type aircon compared to a conventional? what is the technology or logic behind it?

[chua_riwap]

from wikipedia..........

Inverter (air conditioning) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The inverter tag found on some air conditioners signifies the ability of the unit to continuously regulate its thermal transfer flow by altering the speed of the compressor in response to cooling demand.

Traditional air conditioners use a compressor that is either working at maximum capacity or switched off periodically, to regulate the temperature of the room. A thermostat is used to measure the ambient air temperature and switch the compressor on when the ambient air temperature is too far from the desired temperature.

An alternate way to meet the varying cooling demand is to vary ("modulate") the capacity of the compressor. An air conditioner compressor has two components, a mechanical part - the actual compressor and the electrical part - the motor to drive the compressor. Either of the components can be used to modulate the capacity. In digital scroll compressors - the mechanical Scrolls of the compression mechanism is controlled to modulate and the electric motor runs at constant speed. The other method is to control the speed of the compressors by various means.

"Inverter" air conditioners use a variable-frequency drive to control the speed of the motor and thus the compressor. The variable-frequency drive uses a rectifier to convert the incoming AC current to DC and then uses pulse-width modulation of the DC current within an inverter to produce AC current of a desired frequency. The AC current is used to drive a brushless motor or an induction motor. As the speed of an induction motor is proportional to the frequency of the AC current, the compressors runs at different speeds. A microcontroller can then sample the current ambient air temperature and adjust the speed of the compressor appropriately. All this electronics of course does add to the complexity and cost. Conversion energy losses from AC to DC and then back to AC can be as high as 4 - 6% for each conversion step.[citation needed]

Eliminating stop-start cycles increases efficiency, extends the life of components, and helps eliminate sharp fluctuations in the load the air conditioner places on the power supply. Ultimately this makes inverter air conditioners less prone to breakdowns, cheaper to run, and the outdoor compressor is generally quieter than a standard air conditioning unit's compressor.[1]

While at the beginning of the 1990s inverter air conditioners had some drawbacks,[2] these have been mostly overcome - the conversion losses are lower and filters suppress most of the electromagnetic interference generated in inverters. Running at full load, a compressor delivers its best efficiency and outperform inverters. Inverter-based air conditioners have their strengths in environments where a partial load is common, as they are significantly more efficient than conventional air conditioners in those situations. For conventional households where each indoor unit is connected to a single dedicated outdoor unit, inverters are the preferred option, as partial loading is the common mode there. The higher initial expense is balanced by lower energy bills. In a typical setting the pay-back time is about two years (depending upon the usage). For more modern installations where an outdoor unit is connected to multiple indoor units there are better options also available.

The inverter principle has been applied to a wide range of household appliances, including microwave ovens, washing machines, and so on.

[Retz]

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thanks. mahal lang nga ang initial cost ng invertype aircon. how about the ROI of an invertype aircon? I'm planning to use invertype aircon instead of the conventional split-type. 15 units of 5 TR ea. 15 sqm/TR.

[kerf]

May Promo si Deal Dozen sa SPlit Type aircon, baka may interested:

Brand New 1.5HP SHARP Split Type Air-Conditioner

[userfriendly]

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thanks. mahal lang nga ang initial cost ng invertype aircon. how about the ROI of an invertype aircon? I'm planning to use invertype aircon instead of the conventional split-type. 15 units of 5 TR ea. 15 sqm/TR.

Rule of thumb, if you will use your inverter aircon everyday for at least 8 hours a day, you should be able to recover your investment in about 2 years.

[userfriendly]

So far ok naman ang samsung inverters sa office ng kapatid ko. Malamig and matipid sa kuryente.