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    bro the input stage can be repaired by some shops.



    How To Repair PCB PRINTED CIRCUIT BOARD Of window and split ac Introduction - YouTube

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    Pede pa nga siguro. Hay... Itinabi ko na lang.

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    I need an aircon for my room. Already has a hole for a window type but my contractor can cover it up and convert to split type.

    Panasonic's 1hp split type inverter is 26k including installation. Their window type inverter is 28k.

    Any reason why I should go for window type over split type?

    If split type, compressor will be at the balcony right beside the split type ACU so maintenance shouldn't be an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    I need an aircon for my room. Already has a hole for a window type but my contractor can cover it up and convert to split type.

    Panasonic's 1hp split type inverter is 26k including installation. Their window type inverter is 28k.

    Any reason why I should go for window type over split type?

    If split type, compressor will be at the balcony right beside the split type ACU so maintenance shouldn't be an issue.

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    Window can be swapped DIY in minutes, sir. Easier & less mess to clean, too. Most designers would recommend split to clients for looks & silence. Ironically, most I know & work with use window whenever they can in their own homes.[emoji13]

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Window can be swapped DIY in minutes, sir. Easier & less mess to clean, too. Most designers would recommend split to clients for looks & silence. Ironically, most I know & work with use window whenever they can in their own homes.[emoji13]

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    Yeah I prefer looks and silence over ease of maintenance. Wala naman ako balak mag-DIY. No fun in cleaning aircons for me.

    So split type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Yeah I prefer looks and silence over ease of maintenance. Wala naman ako balak mag-DIY. No fun in cleaning aircons for me.

    So split type?

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    ACs breakdown & will periodically need swapping. These are the moments one would wish window instead of split. Downtime is short w/ no extra hands needed. If you decide split, don't embed the lines.
    It's really lifestyle & preference dependent, sir. Having seen homeowner complaints & experience, I lean window more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    ACs breakdown & will periodically need swapping. These are the moments one would wish window instead of split. Downtime is short w/ no extra hands needed. If you decide split, don't embed the lines.
    It's really lifestyle & preference dependent, sir. Having seen homeowner complaints & experience, I lean window more.


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    Yeah so pag sira, sabihin natin once every 2 years (conservative pa yan since my 20 year old National split type hasn't needed servicing in over 3 yrs), mas convenient window. Wala naman kaso sakin yung maghintay ng electrician na gagawa - aircons are just a convenience and not a necessity for a good night's sleep.

    Pag ayos, so that's 729 days every 2 years, the split type is better since it looks better, runs quieter, and consumes less electricity (13.4 EER vs 10.6 for the window). Did I get it right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Yeah so pag sira, sabihin natin once every 2 years (conservative pa yan since my 20 year old National split type hasn't needed servicing in over 3 yrs), mas convenient window. Wala naman kaso sakin yung maghintay ng electrician na gagawa - aircons are just a convenience and not a necessity for a good night's sleep.

    Pag ayos, so that's 729 days every 2 years, the split type is better since it looks better, runs quieter, and consumes less electricity (13.4 EER vs 10.6 for the window). Did I get it right?

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    Basically, yes. To help minimize the chances of split trouble, try requesting PPR drain pipes of at least 1.25" dia instead of the industry standard(sub actually) 0.75" dia....& avoid embedding lines in walls. Ask for proper insulation, too.
    Pardon my OCD, sir. In our practice, we do our best to not be called back to do the same job more than once....Personally, I'm not 1 to bother & prefer fresh repeats....not back jobs.[emoji4]

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Basically, yes. To help minimize the chances of split trouble, try requesting PPR drain pipes of at least 1.25" dia instead of the industry standard(sub actually) 0.75" dia....& avoid embedding lines in walls. Ask for proper insulation, too.
    Pardon my OCD, sir. In our practice, we do our best to not be called back to do the same job more than once....Personally, I'm not 1 to bother & prefer fresh repeats....not back jobs.[emoji4]

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    Thanks for the tips. Looks like you're in the construction/interior design business so the advice is much appreciated.

    Moving on, I was initially inclined to get a Panasonic aircon but turns out it has a much lower EER (13.4) vs LG which has an EER of 15.8. Daikin's is even lower at 12.5.

    Higher EER is always better right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Thanks for the tips. Looks like you're in the construction/interior design business so the advice is much appreciated.

    Moving on, I was initially inclined to get a Panasonic aircon but turns out it has a much lower EER (13.4) vs Daikin or LG which have EERs of around 15.8.

    Higher EER is always better right?

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    Anytime....We're involved by profession & passion in both Construction & Automotive industries, sir.
    EER is basically cooling output/energy input. The higher, the more efficient....Grab the Daikin, sir. Hands down, proven best.[emoji108]

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Anytime....We're involved by profession & passion in both Construction & Automotive industries, sir.
    EER is basically cooling output/energy input. The higher, the more efficient....Grab the Daikin, sir. Hands down, proven best.[emoji108]

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    The Daikin that's available in the stores only has an EER of 12.5.

    So it has a higher acquisition cost and higher consumption than the equivalent LG split type. What's your experience with LG? Inclined to get one now since it's both affordable and efficient.

    Majority of the hotels I stay at also use LG. And haven't heard any horror stories, at least not like Samsung (even my friend who works for Samsung doesn't recommend it.

    On a side note: travs you're the only construction guy I've encountered that doesn't drive a pickup or SUV. [emoji23]

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    The Daikin that's available in the stores only has an EER of 12.5.

    So it has a higher acquisition cost and higher consumption than the equivalent LG split type. What's your experience with LG? Inclined to get one now since it's both affordable and efficient.

    Majority of the hotels I stay at also use LG. And haven't heard any horror stories, at least not like Samsung (even my friend who works for Samsung doesn't recommend it.

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    LG is fine.....but think cars. Nippon above everyone else.[emoji4]
    Even those in the industry who carry other brands won't, w/ honesty, claim superiority vs Daikin.
    Oh, with any brand, try going w/ a group that has good after-sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    LG is fine.....but think cars. Nippon above everyone else.[emoji4]
    Even those in the industry who carry other brands won't, w/ honesty, claim superiority vs Daikin.
    Oh, with any brand, try going w/ a group that has good after-sales.

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    Yes I generally agree which is why Daikin and Panasonic were my top choices. But looking at spec sheets, the LG looks like a winner.

    I'm wondering if the LG is excellent on paper but loses out in practice to the Japs. Just as the Elantra 1.8 makes more power and costs less than the FD Civic 1.8 but we all know which is the better car for the long term between the two. Is the case the same for aircons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Window can be swapped DIY in minutes, sir. Easier & less mess to clean, too. Most designers would recommend split to clients for looks & silence. Ironically, most I know & work with use window whenever they can in their own homes.[emoji13]

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    windows can be quiet after it reaches the target temp, regulating it will depend on the insulation and leakage of the room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Yes I generally agree which is why Daikin and Panasonic were my top choices. But looking at spec sheets, the LG looks like a winner.

    I'm wondering if the LG is excellent on paper but loses out in practice to the Japs. Just as the Elantra 1.8 makes more power and costs less than the FD Civic 1.8 but we all know which is the better car for the long term between the two. Is the case the same for aircons?

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    If we're talking inverter window, Hitachi above Pana. Split, Daikin rules...like Civic over Elantra anytime. Nothing against LG & Hyundai, though.[emoji4]

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    windows can be quiet after it reaches the target temp, regulating it will depend on the insulation and leakage of the room.
    Compressor won't be off all the time.[emoji4] I'm not 1 bothered by AC noise nor looks. I push more than discourage window where allowed.[emoji106]

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Compressor won't be off all the time.[emoji4] I'm not 1 bothered by AC noise nor looks. I push more than discourage window where allowed.[emoji106]

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    it wont.. it will run at a few hertz.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Yes I generally agree which is why Daikin and Panasonic were my top choices. But looking at spec sheets, the LG looks like a winner.

    I'm wondering if the LG is excellent on paper but loses out in practice to the Japs. Just as the Elantra 1.8 makes more power and costs less than the FD Civic 1.8 but we all know which is the better car for the long term between the two. Is the case the same for aircons?

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    Was in the same situation 3 years ago. Opted for 4 LG units which all had unique issues.
    Next time, id go for Daikin.
    A friend had a recurring issue with his Pana unit that ended up a lemon after warranty.
    Same thing for cars and ACs, japanese are still above koreans


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    Quote Originally Posted by JJB View Post
    Was in the same situation 3 years ago. Opted for 4 LG units which all had unique issues.
    Next time, id go for Daikin.
    A friend had a recurring issue with his Pana unit that ended up a lemon after warranty.
    Same thing for cars and ACs, japanese are still above koreans


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    4 lG windows? or splits?

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    Jut, meron yun aux A/C na china brand. 8 years warranty for compressor and 5 years for parts. Check mo kung how much price, nag offer lang yun nag cleaning sa akin the other day.

    Huwag ka matakot sa maintenance ng split type hinde naman ikaw ang gagawa.

    Kung ok yun nag install sayo sila na lang tawagan mo for the maintenance kahit after warranty na.

    As with everything you have to find a good and honest na company na mag install saka mag maintain.

    As for brand. For mee pare-pareho na lahat yan. We have one Panasonic 15 years na yata non inverter, napalitan na ng compressor for 8k+ siguro all in mas mura pa kung ako mismo bibili ng compressor but i opted na yun installer ko na lang bumili dahil meron warranty. Original and brand new naman

    Saka meron din ako nakikita na Hitachi brand yata na full inverter. Alam ko ganyan na yun bago ngayon na mga inverter dapat full inverter Na.


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Split Type Aircon: Which is best?