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    #121
    Quote Originally Posted by amboy
    hehe... nuclear power plant pa nga lang sa bataan hindi na magkaugaga sa kaka rally ang mga tao sa manila against it... nuclear silos pa kaya hehe!
    Hanggang ngayon ba eh interest pa rin lang ang nababayaran dito? Di ba maraming nang silo diyan sa Pangasinan/Tarlac, kita sa highway?

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    #122
    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    when you say kilotons, yun yun di-nrop o yun yun magnitude ng naproduce na bomb
    Either way, his figure's wrong.

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    #123
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger
    (the a-bombs dropped in Japan during WWII were 2 kilotons).
    Ooops, I stand corrected, the A-bombs that were dropped over Japan were 12 to 15 kilotons. It was the test nuke in Nevada? that was only 2 kilotons.

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    #124
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger
    During the 60's up to the 90's all soviet made anti-ship missiles had 3 basic characteristics:

    1- OTH range (40 to 60 nautical miles as the americans would put it)
    2- accept mid-course guidance from a Kamov tandem rotor helo
    3- pack a 20 kiloton nuke warhead (minimum, some had 1-megaton nukes)
    One problem with that...

    All CBGs have a Hawkeye recon aircraft with them. It has a range of 1300 miles and can cover a 3 billion cubic mile radius with its advanced radar system (this is the plane with the huge radar above it). It has the ability to track ships & other airborne targets & guide missiles against them.

    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    siguro puwede na 'to sa tin. can afford na nga natin ito ...
    The AFP already have a light helicopter similar to that. Mostly used to bomb rebel camps in Mindanao.

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    #125
    *oldblue: yup, un nga B). small, maneuverable, cheap. wag mo lang nga paliparin pag me bagyo :D

    one drawback though: wala masyadong armoring

    tuloy pa rin ba production ng russian HIND series? Ok rin un, parang flying tank B)

    for military history buffs, abangan nyo ung mga docus on channel A1(some australian channel i think) lots of interesting docus about little known WW2 facts. Currently the series docus the war at the Eastern front -- Russia to be exact; it doesn't paint a pretty picture of Stalin B)

    kung di ako nagkakamali, around 8-9pm saturdays, with replays on sunday mornings

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    #126
    All CBGs have a Hawkeye recon aircraft with them. It has a range of 1300 miles and can cover a 3 billion cubic mile radius with its advanced radar system (this is the plane with the huge radar above it). It has the ability to track ships & other airborne targets & guide missiles against them.



    Yup I agree with mazda here. Sometimes CBGs even have AWACS support coming off canada or from Britain (in case of convoy crossing the atlantic. One of the problem then is that warsaw pact doesnt have a bomber that has the legs to intercept with the CBG, except of course the Bear (heck this things could really stay up in the air a long time). Yung mga badger and backfires (??? not sure kung ito nga code name neto) simply cannot cope with the range. Kung surface ships naman they could be picked off by F18s with harpoons and some A6 then tapos unahan na lang to get a firing solution to launch the ships SSMs. Pero syempre nandyan yung tactical nukes which for me is a political weapon because using these would be MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) hehe. Pero kung conventional weapons i guess a CBG is very hard to beat. Irony nga is you should feel safe in a carrier kasi its the best protected ship pero eto rin ang primary target ng kalaban

    The AFP already have a light helicopter similar to that. Mostly used to bomb rebel camps in Mindanao.[/QUOTE]


    yup AH6 "little bird" used commonly by spec ops forces because of its small size and manueverability. I just dunno kung pareho specs neto dun sa MD 500/520 na ginagamit na natin.

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    #127
    i believe the ah6 and the paf md520 are variants of the same weapons systems. only thing is the paf does not have the money to acquire M134 7.62-mm 6x barrel Gatling type twin MG pods so they bought the .50 cal MG pods instead.

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    #128
    Meron na tayong little bird choppers, what we need is a replacement for the Hueys and a an armored attack choppers like the Cobra or Apache.

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    #129
    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    All CBGs have a Hawkeye recon aircraft with them. It has a range of 1300 miles and can cover a 3 billion cubic mile radius with its advanced radar system (this is the plane with the huge radar above it). It has the ability to track ships & other airborne targets & guide missiles against them.
    Well ever since the cold war went "too cold", the CBGs have been primarily used as floating airbases for invasions. No country today would like to engage a CBG.

    Come to think of it, 1 CBG is more powerful than most of the worlds armed forces. Heck, a CBG with 1 attached Marine Expeditionary Force is more powerful than the entire AFP.

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    #130
    regarding the destruction of carrier battle groups:
    the soviets had two methods of doing so..

    1) the oscar-class SSGN with the Granit missile (although the russian heavy cruisers like the Peter the Great and their carrier also carries the Granit), mach 2.25 speed, 600km range

    2) (tom clancy used this device in his book "red storm rising") send a whole squadron of Tu-160 supersonic bombers against the CBG, and all of them would salvo their AS-10 cruise missiles. the AS-10 is a low-flying missile with a "flying geese" behavior (one missile takes the lead, others follow it like a flock of geese; if the "lead goose" gets shot down, another missile will take over the lead) in the book, a salvo of 200+ cruise missiles was able to destroy the carrier simply by overwhelming the aegis defense system

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