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October 5th, 2005 05:28 AM #121
Originally Posted by amboy
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October 5th, 2005 08:07 AM #123Originally Posted by jaeger
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October 5th, 2005 10:05 AM #124
Originally Posted by jaeger
All CBGs have a Hawkeye recon aircraft with them. It has a range of 1300 miles and can cover a 3 billion cubic mile radius with its advanced radar system (this is the plane with the huge radar above it). It has the ability to track ships & other airborne targets & guide missiles against them.
Originally Posted by oldblue
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October 5th, 2005 10:12 AM #125*oldblue: yup, un nga B). small, maneuverable, cheap. wag mo lang nga paliparin pag me bagyo :D
one drawback though: wala masyadong armoring
tuloy pa rin ba production ng russian HIND series? Ok rin un, parang flying tank B)
for military history buffs, abangan nyo ung mga docus on channel A1(some australian channel i think) lots of interesting docus about little known WW2 facts. Currently the series docus the war at the Eastern front -- Russia to be exact; it doesn't paint a pretty picture of Stalin B)
kung di ako nagkakamali, around 8-9pm saturdays, with replays on sunday mornings
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October 5th, 2005 11:07 AM #126
All CBGs have a Hawkeye recon aircraft with them. It has a range of 1300 miles and can cover a 3 billion cubic mile radius with its advanced radar system (this is the plane with the huge radar above it). It has the ability to track ships & other airborne targets & guide missiles against them.
Yup I agree with mazda here. Sometimes CBGs even have AWACS support coming off canada or from Britain (in case of convoy crossing the atlantic. One of the problem then is that warsaw pact doesnt have a bomber that has the legs to intercept with the CBG, except of course the Bear (heck this things could really stay up in the air a long time). Yung mga badger and backfires (??? not sure kung ito nga code name neto) simply cannot cope with the range. Kung surface ships naman they could be picked off by F18s with harpoons and some A6 then tapos unahan na lang to get a firing solution to launch the ships SSMs. Pero syempre nandyan yung tactical nukes which for me is a political weapon because using these would be MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) hehe. Pero kung conventional weapons i guess a CBG is very hard to beat. Irony nga is you should feel safe in a carrier kasi its the best protected ship pero eto rin ang primary target ng kalaban
The AFP already have a light helicopter similar to that. Mostly used to bomb rebel camps in Mindanao.[/QUOTE]
yup AH6 "little bird" used commonly by spec ops forces because of its small size and manueverability. I just dunno kung pareho specs neto dun sa MD 500/520 na ginagamit na natin.
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October 5th, 2005 11:20 AM #127
i believe the ah6 and the paf md520 are variants of the same weapons systems. only thing is the paf does not have the money to acquire M134 7.62-mm 6x barrel Gatling type twin MG pods so they bought the .50 cal MG pods instead.
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FrankDrebin GuestOctober 5th, 2005 11:24 AM #128
Meron na tayong little bird choppers, what we need is a replacement for the Hueys and a an armored attack choppers like the Cobra or Apache.
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October 5th, 2005 11:41 AM #129Originally Posted by mazdamazda
Come to think of it, 1 CBG is more powerful than most of the worlds armed forces. Heck, a CBG with 1 attached Marine Expeditionary Force is more powerful than the entire AFP.
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October 5th, 2005 11:43 AM #130
regarding the destruction of carrier battle groups:
the soviets had two methods of doing so..
1) the oscar-class SSGN with the Granit missile (although the russian heavy cruisers like the Peter the Great and their carrier also carries the Granit), mach 2.25 speed, 600km range
2) (tom clancy used this device in his book "red storm rising") send a whole squadron of Tu-160 supersonic bombers against the CBG, and all of them would salvo their AS-10 cruise missiles. the AS-10 is a low-flying missile with a "flying geese" behavior (one missile takes the lead, others follow it like a flock of geese; if the "lead goose" gets shot down, another missile will take over the lead) in the book, a salvo of 200+ cruise missiles was able to destroy the carrier simply by overwhelming the aegis defense system
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