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    #101
    That every from so-called prestigious university (UP, La Salle, Ateneo, UST among others) has had its share of foul-ups every now and then. But I digress, in the same manner that the thread is digressing from its original thought and intention.

    So before we end up patting our respective schools on the back, or before this thread eventually turns into a shouting match as to which university produces the best graduates, I humbly suggest that we get back on topic, which is the thoughts of a certain Ms. Katie and how she perceives her country is presently being run.

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    #102
    you shouldve digressed sooner.

  3. #103
    Lets go back to the topic at hand...

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    #104
    i hate the philippines too!


    layo kasi eh...ang hirap bumisita

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    #105
    Quote Originally Posted by pissword
    mali nga yung KATIE VS. PHILIPPINES...

    dapat ata KATIE vs. Politicians, siguradong marami pang susuporta sa site niya
    Politicians ba ang BIR? Mga employado sa Cityhall, politicians din ba? MMDA? Yung bumbero ninyo diyan politicians din ba? Yung mga nagtatrabaho diyan sa immigration politicians din ba? Yung mga tao sa customs, politicians din? In fact, a month ago, itong mga ogags employado sa LTO pinipilit nilang ilakad ko yung license renewal ko sa fixers sa labas. Akala ko ba bawal yun? Pati mga pari dito nahuling kumukupit ng pera.

    Katie vs. Philippines is accurate. I don't think Katie cares about who supports her site or not. Like me, I just say what I think that needs to be said without worrying if I'll win pogi points from any of you. A year ago, I thought about putting up a site like Katie's to raise awareness. Pero umiinit ang dugo ko everytime I talk about these things.

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    #106
    kanta na lang lahat tayo ng 'Bayang magiliw.....'

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    #107
    Quote Originally Posted by woulfe27
    hindi naman lahat ng politicians e magnanakaw, mga 95% lang ang nangungurakot. yung 5% kaka-elect pa lang kaya nag-aaral pa mangurakot. siempre pag nangungurakot mga yan, hindi nila sasabihin sa mga pamilya nila, para hindi sila ikahiya ng mga anak nila.

    at maraming paraan para magnakaw sa gobyerno ang mga politiko. hindi porket hindi nagungupit sa pork barrel e malinis na. yung pagtanggap ng lagay galing sa jueteng lords, yung paggamit ng ghost employees, etc. ay pangungurakot din.
    he he he!! :oops: :angel3:
    Last edited by cyberdoc95; February 12th, 2005 at 09:00 AM.

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    #108
    Quote Originally Posted by jolog1
    Politicians ba ang BIR? Mga employado sa Cityhall, politicians din ba? MMDA? Yung bumbero ninyo diyan politicians din ba? Yung mga nagtatrabaho diyan sa immigration politicians din ba? Yung mga tao sa customs, politicians din? In fact, a month ago, itong mga ogags employado sa LTO pinipilit nilang ilakad ko yung license renewal ko sa fixers sa labas. Akala ko ba bawal yun? Pati mga pari dito nahuling kumukupit ng pera.

    Katie vs. Philippines is accurate. I don't think Katie cares about who supports her site or not. Like me, I just say what I think that needs to be said without worrying if I'll win pogi points from any of you. A year ago, I thought about putting up a site like Katie's to raise awareness. Pero umiinit ang dugo ko everytime I talk about these things.
    Wow, how can you blame a NON-LIVING thing? Philippines is not running the country itself because it is, the country. The one who runs the country of the Philippines is to blame. And who are those? Politicians. Hindi nga directly politicians ang mga bumbero and the likes, but who runs them? POLITICIANS, correct.

    Ayan, umi-init na din ang betlog ko, makauwi na nga.

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    #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Karding
    Wow, how can you blame a NON-LIVING thing? Philippines is not running the country itself because it is, the country. The one who runs the country of the Philippines is to blame. And who are those? Politicians. Hindi nga directly politicians ang mga bumbero and the likes, but who runs them? POLITICIANS, correct.

    Ayan, umi-init na din ang betlog ko, makauwi na nga.
    pucha, pakakagat ko na yang betlog mo sa langgam eh....

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    #110
    Karding, sinong bumoto sa kanila? Unlike sa US, mas democratic ang eleksyon dito kasi wala tayong electoral college. Every vote counts here.

    You think a common pinoy is uncorrupt? How many of you know someone who have illegal cable? How many of you here own pirated DVDs, VCDs, and software? In fact, I seem to remember a thread here that openly discussed where to buy pirated DVDs. Now you see how hypocritical some of you are? Do you know how many times employees from cable companies have asked us if we want pirated cable? Langhiya talaga, naka uniform pa sila at truck ng kompanya. Bastos talaga. We pay P650 a month and to think that there's a bunch of people that get it for free. Kung marunong lang kayo tumingin, you'll be surprise at how many people have illegal cables.

    Sa tindahan namin, do you know how many times we get approached by employees from other businesses that offer us goods they stole from their employers? We're talking about boxes and boxes! Obviously, we don't deal with stolen goods. There's also those clowns who wants us to jack up the price on the receipt so they can cheat their boss and keep the change.

    Let's not even talk about how many people don't pay minimum wage to their employees, which is also illegal. Exploiting the poor by paying just P2,500 a month for a maid who works a 24 hour shift without SS or Philhealth.

    I don't have enough room here to rant. Maybe I'll just set up that website after all.
    Last edited by jolog1; February 12th, 2005 at 10:05 AM.

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    #111
    i think kaya hindi tumataas sahod ng maids coz libre ang food 3x a day and exceptional living conditions is provided. and hindi naman 24 hours work nila, our maids watch tv half of the day, cleaning and daily chores are finished before lunch. after lunch either siesta na or watch tv until its time to prepare dinner. so it depends on the owner really so dont generalize everything.
    Last edited by BlueBimmer; February 12th, 2005 at 11:03 AM.

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    #112
    jolog1, ang hindi ko maintindihan sayo, bakit NON-LIVING thing ang sinisisi mo. Sagutin mo 'to kapatid, may buhay ba ang Pilipinas? Humihinga ba 'to? HINDI di ba? So bakit mo sisisihin ang Pinas?

    Sa pagkakaintindi ko sa huli mong mga sinabi, TAO at hindi BANSA ang sinisisi mo, which is right.

    Ang dapat kseng sinisisi nyo, Gobyerno at hindi bansa. Kagaya ng sinabi ko noong unang panahon when this thread started, mali ang gamit nyang pananalita. I think the author is referring and meant the 'Philippine Government.'

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    So Jologs what do you suggest? We've got to start at something right?

    For me, you can't really eliminate all the corruption, just minimize it.

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    #114
    that'll be the day...pag na minimize ang corruption. kelan kaya yun. sana buhay pa ako nun.
    IMHO come to think of it, one way or another tayo (when i say tayo, lahat ng pilipino, nde lang kayong nasa forum na ito - linaw ko lang hehehe ) den dapat ang sisihin kung ano man ang Pilipinas ngayon. I'm sure nde lahat ng binoto nyo nung nakaraang eleksyon perpektong tao. Ilan ba sa atin ang guilty sa pagboto sa isang official dahil lang sa kakilala naten yung tatay nya; kapitbahay naten; utang na loob nateng iboto sila; o mabait ang pamilya nila. (nde sa porket mabait eh kaya ng maging leader) O kaya, ilan sa aten ang nde bumoto nung nakaraang eleksyon dahil lang sa nakakafrustrate naman bumoto dahil nandadaya lang ang iba? Kaya nga nde nananalo ang dapat na manalo kase madming nde nagpa-practice ng rights nilang bumoto. Nasa aten ang alas. Kase tayo ang pumipili at may karapatang magpaupo sa dapat na leader ng bansa. Pero sa issue na kung baket ganito ang Pilipinas, wala ka naman talagang mapi-pinpoint kung sino ang may kasalanan. As a whole, damaged culture na ang bansa naten.

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    #115
    the truth hurts...

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    #116
    well, people can either:

    1) whine, rant and cry about it
    2) try to do something about it, even in your own small way
    3) leave

    of the 3 options above, #1 is the most useless.

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    #117
    the site is all about doing #1 haha

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    #118
    Quote Originally Posted by Karding
    jolog1, ang hindi ko maintindihan sayo, bakit NON-LIVING thing ang sinisisi mo. Sagutin mo 'to kapatid, may buhay ba ang Pilipinas? Humihinga ba 'to? HINDI di ba? So bakit mo sisisihin ang Pinas?

    Sa pagkakaintindi ko sa huli mong mga sinabi, TAO at hindi BANSA ang sinisisi mo, which is right.

    Ang dapat kseng sinisisi nyo, Gobyerno at hindi bansa. Kagaya ng sinabi ko noong unang panahon when this thread started, mali ang gamit nyang pananalita. I think the author is referring and meant the 'Philippine Government.'
    Tumpak!!!

    May nabasa ako na kung gusto nang isang author mabasa ang kanyang sinulat gagawa sya nang title na striking and intriguing... katulad nang mga title nang mga pelikula dito sa pinas... Pinya... Bad Girl... Tukso... at kung ano ano pa...

    May be nagkamali sya nang title pero mukhang ginawa nya yun para mabasa ang kanyang sinulat. Tama si Karding galit sya sa gobyerno at hindi sa pilipinas mismo... pero hindi lahat nang tao sa gobyerno masama pero karamihan nga ay masama kaya ganito ang nangyayari sa pilipinas palubog nang palubog. Hindi pa nga pinanganganak may nakapatong na utang sa world bank...

    Hindi ko nga alam kung saan napunta kung ganun kalaking utang natin sa world bank... singh... sa kamay nang ilang tiwaling politiko...

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    Hanapin ang Yamashita treasure!!! hehehe

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    #120
    hmmm..wawa naman ang salitang philippines..ewan lang kung gaano magagawa 'to, ha..mahilig rin lang magpasa ng mga batas palit ng pangalan ng ganitong kalye o ganitong airport, etc mga dyaan sa kongreso..palitan na rin nila pangalan ng pilipinas..!

    magkaisa tayo mga kapatid..!

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