Digital SLR

[niky]

Astig... agree whole-heartedly (and how I miss my old Olympus C30!)....

Dapat gawing sticky din yun!

[nicolodeon]

nico, yung k10d dami ba lenses available locally? kung walang benta sa hidalgo ng k10d parang hina ata support nito..

pero ganda specs..10mp, IS, Sealed body, larger sensor than 400D(?), anti-dust etc...kumpleto na...just like what i want in a dslr..sana di kasing mahal ng sony a100..

BB, mayron pa. Galing ako Hidalgo kanina, 'was looking for a battery pack. May mga old-scholl k-mount lenses pa dun that would work perfectly with the K10D. However, when I asked around eh I was surprised na nagtaas sila ng price kase compatible yung mga lenses with the K10D. So, they're expecting that them K10D fans would come trooping to Hidalgo for 2nd hand/used lenses. I checked ebay just now and I noticed na significantly nagtaas ng price ang mga sellers ng Pentax K-mount lenses....

Compared sa Nikon na Columbia lang, ang Pentax may local presence. There are Pentax stores in SM North, Megamall and sa Gloriatta.

[BlueBimmer]

BB, mayron pa. Galing ako Hidalgo kanina, 'was looking for a battery pack. May mga old-scholl k-mount lenses pa dun that would work perfectly with the K10D. However, when I asked around eh I was surprised na nagtaas sila ng price kase compatible yung mga lenses with the K10D. So, they're expecting that them K10D fans would come trooping to Hidalgo for 2nd hand/used lenses. I checked ebay just now and I noticed na significantly nagtaas ng price ang mga sellers ng Pentax K-mount lenses....

Compared sa Nikon na Columbia lang, ang Pentax may local presence. There are Pentax stores in SM North, Megamall and sa Gloriatta.

ahh..may idea ka sa local price ng K10D nic?

brand wise and reliability wise..ok ba pentax when compared to nikon or canon? ok talaga specs ng k10d...parang a100 but with a better body..

[GerardTagayty]

sir bim yun nakita ko sa glorrieta nakaharap sa park square 58k po ang k10d kit na sa camera hauz.. 57 yun sony

[Si 06]

Hehe... we should've met up. Ma-photo din tsikot mo. Forgot to get your CP number from Carlo before I came here. Sayang, last day ng seminar namin.

Sir Niky d2 lang din po ako sa bundok

[BlueBimmer]

sir bim yun nakita ko sa glorrieta nakaharap sa park square 58k po ang k10d kit na sa camera hauz.. 57 yun sony

uy ty sa price..58k..pwede na pero sana nasa lower 50k range...

sony a100 57k nalang? diba 68k yan dati??

[GerardTagayty]

yun nakita ko sa hidlago 200mm yun lens kaya sha 68 sa may park square 57 kase 32 lang yata yun kasama sa kit.. mahal ng lens ng sony! kabuhayan na! lol

[theveed]

Great post MBT... But ISO 400 limit for P&S has been surpassed easily by the great F30 hehe... Large sensor kasi...

Tigerbug: I've used the E-500 for an event before plus some basic shooting sessions, it's a nice cam, I really like the ergonomics and the kit lenses KICK BUTT!

But poor (in comparison) when it comes to ISO noise... But it's a really good cam dude, plug in a FL36 flash with it, focusing is quick and snappy.

Sulit yung 2-lens kit nya, the kit lens are far better than the ones included sa Nikon and Canon equivalent.

Gerard: Well, you can always hunt for old Minolta Maxxum lenses, they're cheap and fully compatible.

[niky]

Sir Niky d2 lang din po ako sa bundok

(Sorry, puro OT lang ako dito! Hehe) - Sabi nga ni Carlo. Dapat may Tagaytay EB tayo in the future...

[GerardTagayty]

picked up my D80 today... ahehehehe... d ko pa nabebreak in i tried takign pakictures when i passed by MOA nadedbol na batt.. ahehehe... hindi yata ak makakatulog sa kakabutingting tonight... lol wala nga pala po ako nakitaan ng k10d sa hidalgo d ako umabot sa meyers... ang init... and d rin po ako nakapag ask kung may bumibili ng used digicams... nakalimutan ko... ahehehe... neks time babalik pa ako samahan ko friend ko to pick up her rebel...

[theveed]

Congrats sa purchase...

Please read the manual from end to end, you'll learn a lot from it...

While you're just learning, just shoot in medium jpeg for now, you dont need the full resolution for basic snapshots, sayang lang HDD space for storage especially mga day-to-day snaps lang.

Start na ang endless expense mo pre heheheh.

[GerardTagayty]

im goign thru the 160 page manual... lol nakakapagod... naghint ang friend ko na may photg for dummies sha for me weee... ima run down to batangas on wed to do a little pic taking... just a bit... i bought na ren a sturdy tripod for the thing..

thanks for the tip on the resolution thing. i did that para pag download ko sa pc. andami ko dinedelete. ahehehe...

[bluntman]

hehehe

I see you took my advice! :D

Congrats on your purchase.

[nicolodeon]

Good cam Gerarad. Congrats.

[niky]

Ano, Photo EB na? Congrats! Tell me when you're up to it, so you can sample my bro's lenses... no, wait... temptation lang yun...

Another thing you might like to do is upgrade to the newest Photoshop and Lightroom, they help a lot in post-processing. I still do post-processing on Corel Photopaint, but my processed pics don't look as good as my bro's (Lightroom). Hang around the camera forums (Kameraderie, Digital Photographer Philippines and Pinoy Photographers) for tips on using these.

Congrats ulit!

[GerardTagayty]

thanks you guys! im still making a pass on all the pages of the manual! hahaha!! taking bits of pics here and there experementing.. sir niky very tempting offer... lol self control! ahahaha!!! im looking forward to our trip to capones with my friends... sana by that time gamay ko na yun cam... i hope... and btw whats the newest photoshop? i have elements 4.0 lang e

ima start lurking or well i will join those photog forums... para mas matuto ako..

[bluntman]

thanks you guys! im still making a pass on all the pages of the manual! hahaha!! taking bits of pics here and there experementing.. sir niky very tempting offer... lol self control! ahahaha!!! im looking forward to our trip to capones with my friends... sana by that time gamay ko na yun cam... i hope... and btw whats the newest photoshop? i have elements 4.0 lang e

ima start lurking or well i will join those photog forums... para mas matuto ako..

Photoshop Elements 5.0 is the latest, while Photoshop CS3 will be out shortly (a couple of months).

Kamerderie.com and DPP are two great DP forums!

[kimpOy]

djerms,

I wholeheartedly agree that a dslr or even a prosumer P&S isn't necessary to make great photos, but all that said, there are many situations where a dslr will open up shooting possibilities that are simply beyond the capability of a P&S. Notably:

1. Low-light performance: With modern uber-megapixel cameras (ridiculous marketing feature), even ISO 200 can be blurry and noisy on many P&S cams. ISO 400 is realistically the maximum I'll take a P&S to, anything higher is usually garbage. Shooting indoors, especially when it's dark, can be very challenging with a P&S. Even events like indoor car shows necessitate a tripod for best results. For indoor events where the subject is moving and where flash is not acceptable (e.g. a recital, a concert, a basketball game at the araneta colliseum), you'll have to be very lucky to get a good shot from a P&S. However, low-light shooting of still subjects (e.g. night landscapes) is very feasible with modern P&S provided the camera is stabilized on a tripod or on a stable surface.

2. Sports and action/high-speed photography: The virtually nonexistent shutter lag of dslrs really helps here. It's very difficult to photograph a Formula 1 car at breakneck speed with a P&S, because a mis-timing of a fraction of a second means that a portion of the subject is no longer in the frame, or the subject is not in the frame at all. Continuous shooting (3 fps or whatever) is invaluable and with practice, good results are possible with a P&S, but a dslr will make it so much easier. For example, getting good results with a P&S photographing a fireworks show requires a lot of work, a LOT of shots, and a lot of luck. The fast autofocus of dslrs are also a big deal here. Some lower-end P&S cams black out for a second or so after taking a photo with flash... truly maddening in some situations. Finally, continuous shooting with flash is generally not possible with the low-power built-in flashes of P&S cams.

3. Ultra-wide angle and macro shooting: Purely because UWA and dedicated macro lenses are available for an slr. Converter lenses with limited capability are available for higher-end P&S models though.

4. Ergonomics: During occasions when the pace of shooting is very fast (e.g. events, action photography), it's necessary to change camera settings very quickly. With a P&S, my experience is that it can be frustrating to navigate through tons of menus accessing basic things like flash on/off or ISO when interesting shooting opportunities are coming very rapidly. Even the electronic zoom control of a P&S will feel very slow in these situations... the instant mechanical zoom ring on slrs is invaluable for demanding shooting.

5. Battery life and read/write performance: a dslr will likely have a very long battery life compared to a P&S. writing to the CF/SD card will be fast too, and so will reading. It can get maddening on a P&S when you have 300 full-res photos on your card and it takes an eternity to cycle through them in-cam.

As you can see, theveed is really correct that a dslr generally makes things easier and only in certain situations will a dslr be a big deal. If you're a pro or semi-pro photographer (for example, you regularly go to events), a dslr will be a very good investment. Otherwise, for holiday and recreational shooting, a P&S is generally ideal, and has the following advantages:

1. Live view, articulating LCD screen on some models: These are features that make composition much easier, and these are features I would like to see on more dslrs.

2. Compact weight and size: This can be the single biggest reason to not bring a dslr on a holiday. A cheap P&S that you bring with you is infinitely more useful than a dslr sitting in the closet at home. For example, if I were going on a month-long vacation to the US, I would strongly consider bringing my trusty Olympus C5060WZ P&S rather than a dslr + lenses. The bad news with slr cameras is that as capability goes up, size and weight goes up as well, sometimes drastically. A Canon 24-70 f/2.8 L lens weighs a ton. A Canon 70-200 f/4 L lens is as long as a bazooka, and the IS versions are even more so.

3. Underwater photography: Much cheaper and much easier to do with a P&S, since underwater casings are available. Underwater casings for dslrs are incredibly expensive.

4. Discreet shooting. Everyone will notice your dslr on the street. Everyone will think you are a tourist. Everyone will think you are the official photographer at a party or wedding or whatever.

5. Much, much better image quality per peso and per gram compared to a dslr My Olympus C5060WZ P&S has a great sharp lens. To give a Canon 400D dslr the same level of sharpness, I would have to spend dozens of thousands of pesos on a lens like the 17-40 L. And even then, the P&S lens would still have the advantage in that it has a much wider range (27-108 mm). To give the 400D the same image lens quality AND lens range as the P&S, I would have to buy two lenses for the dslr. More expensive, bulkier, heavier, more likely to stay at home.

In a nutshell, a dslr is a specialized tool that extends your photographic repertoire. using one when you don't need it is like buying a ferrari for the daily commute. however, not using one when you do need it is like using a Kia pride in a formula race.

agree on this mbt...potek pati camera nahalintulad mo sa kotse ah...galing!

[kimpOy]

GT congrats sa DSLR...

[oldblue]

revive ko lang ang thread


I got to buy a Nikkor 18-200VR two fridays ago sa Hidalgo and brought it with me sa Baguio

I paired it with my Nikon D40. ok ang lens na'to. i'm quite pasmado when it comes to taking pics, pero useful ang VR niya.

plus a larger aperture at higher focal length, sarap gamitin.

well recommended ko ang lens na ito, and hindi naman gano kabigatan and hindi ganun kahaba.

you'll never use your kit lens again hehehe