Is WWIII inevitable?

[Ry_Tower]

It’s true that there is double-standard in terms of sympathy between Ukraine and non-European/white war-stricken countries.

Here’s a pretty good summary of the double-standard from media coverage:

‘Double standards’: Western coverage of Ukraine war criticised | Russia-Ukraine war News | Al Jazeera

I don’t think anyone is denying that, and if they are, then they should take a good hard reality check. The reasons for the double-standard also aren’t unknown - the example you gave on Manileños caring more about a potential war in Manila or Luzon vs war that goes on everyday in Sulu is an example that hits much closer to home. It’s human nature.

Now that we’ve established those facts, what’s the point you’re trying to drive?

Do we stop caring about the war on Ukraine? Or do we level up the sympathy we have when other non-white countries get involved in war?

Do we stop sanctioning Russia? Or do we hold the US more accountable when it wreaks havoc on Middle Eastern countries?

I get it - the West are hypocrites, that’s true. People should take a good hard look at the double-standards and acknowledge it (even here in Tsikot).

But the reality is there are innocent people being killed right at this moment and the war must stop. Sooner or later people will get desensitized but that doesn’t mean families stop getting caught in the crossfire.

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Bakit nawawala yun issue sa ginagawa ng Russia now and dinadala sa double standard ng west?

Kung meron narrative yun western meron din dito sa tsikot.

Lahat ng gawin ng US hypocracy, while ok lang iba ang gumawa as long as hinde sila.


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The impartial chinese kool-aid narrative is, as always, everything the west do is bad, and even if right, retrace back to history their mistakes to put them down.

It's not about per issue per se anymore, their must be a counter-argument each time and just run to the past for validation.

What's funny is that China is an even older civilization than any in the west. If we are not gonna move forward and retrace every effin mistake of a nation, then no one, absolutely no one has moral ascendancy.

We have to look no further than the Philippines to see an example of how issues are muddled because of ties. Regionalism is so strong, each large "tribe" chide against others. The dilawans vs the DDS and now the reds. There's always that hidden agenda that's blurring the issue and those with selfish and personal interests capitalizes on it massively.

If you cannot look at it on a per issue basis, whether right and wrong, and just always look at the possible narrative, you're missing the real issue. It just falls into propagandism imho.

[ray_noel]

The impartial chinese kool-aid narrative is, as always, everything the west do is bad, and even if right, retrace back to history their mistakes to put them down.

It's not about per issue per se anymore, their must be a counter-argument each time and just run to the past for validation.

What's funny is that China is an even older civilization than any in the west. If we are not gonna move forward and retrace every effin mistake of a nation, then no one, absolutely no one has moral ascendancy.

We have to look no further than the Philippines to see an example of how issues are muddled because of ties. Regionalism is so strong, each large "tribe" chide against others. The dilawans vs the DDS and now the reds. There's always that hidden agenda that's blurring the issue and those with selfish and personal interests capitalizes on it massively.

If you cannot look at it on a per issue basis, whether right and wrong, and just always look at the possible narrative, you're missing the real issue. It just falls into propagandism imho.

Meaning, back to school muna tayo and listen to our history teacher subject? To know what exactly happened? Hate it because a lot of dates need to memorize…. When was the invasion dates and among the dynaties…. Sana hindi umabot sa adam and eve ang labanan dito… [emoji3577][emoji3577][emoji3577]

I think putin is stuck at the old era where in literal na pag hindi makuha sa santong dasalan, idaan sa santong paspasan….


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[shadow]

Putin is at his most vulnerable now, in my opinion...

Kaya kontin squeeze pa sa mga oligarchs or kung hinde maybe give the oligarchs and Russian military deals like Immunity, etc. They will gladly offer Putin's head on a silver platter.

Bigyan lang ng credible na kapalit si Putin that will be acceptable to them.


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[uls]

Meaning, back to school muna tayo and listen to our history teacher subject? To know what exactly happened? Hate it because a lot of dates need to memorize…. When was the invasion dates and among the dynaties…. Sana hindi umabot sa adam and eve ang labanan dito… [emoji3577][emoji3577][emoji3577]

I think putin is stuck at the old era where in literal na pag hindi makuha sa santong dasalan, idaan sa santong paspasan….


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di naman kailangan alam mo ang exact dates

you just have to know contemporary history

like Saddam invasion of Kuwait, GWBush invaded iraq, GWBush invaded afghanistan, etc

no need for dates

Re: Ukraine -- when biased western media tell you Europe "has never experienced anything like this since WW2"

kung may alam ka sa contemporary history alam mo di totoo yan (clinton bombed yugoslavia for 78 days)

para di ka madali madala ng western kool-aid

ang problema madami walang alam sa history

kung ano sabihin ng media yan na

kung gusto ng media magalit ka sa isang tao o lahi o bansa... magagawa nila yun

[ray_noel]

Yan din ang ayaw ko sa media… more negative news than the positive…. Trigger itong si media…

Pagnapalitan na itong u.s/west, mababago na din kaya ang standard language ng earth? Hindi na english, mandarin na… hehehe


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[ray_noel]

Putin is at his most vulnerable now, in my opinion...

Kaya kontin squeeze pa sa mga oligarchs or kung hinde maybe give the oligarchs and Russian military deals like Immunity, etc. They will gladly offer Putin's head on a silver platter.

Bigyan lang ng credible na kapalit si Putin that will be acceptable to them.


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Mahirap yan gawin pag hindi taga insider ang gagawa… dapat sa kanya mag suicide na lang siya…


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[shadow]

Mahirap yan gawin pag hindi taga insider ang gagawa… dapat sa kanya mag suicide na lang siya…


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With the right motivation marami gagawa niyang.

Ready ba talaga mga oligarchs and Russian military to start a nuclear war and end their luxurious lives?


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[Egan101]

Bosnia and Serbia experienced far worse bombings thirty years ago. That’s still Europe and 50 years after WW2.


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[uls]

Bosnia and Serbia experienced far worse bombings thirty years ago. That’s still Europe and 50 years after WW2.


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yun nga

problema many people don't know history

so when the media tells them first time nangyari ito sa europe since ww2 naniwala agad

many probably think europe is always peaceful and wars only happen in sh#thole countries where savages live (and that's probably what western media wanted people to think)

kaya ganun ang shock and anger ng mga tao "this can't happen here! this sort of thing only happens in afghanistan!"

[shadow]

yun nga

problema many people don't know history

so when the media tells them first time nangyari ito sa europe since ww2 naniwala agad

many probably think europe is always peaceful and wars only happen in sh#thole countries where savages live (and that's probably what western media wanted people to think)

kaya ganun ang shock and anger ng mga tao "this can't happen here! this sort of thing only happens in afghanistan!"

So ibig sabihin lahat ng kami na galit sa war ngayon eh dahil lang mapuputi kasi affected? Ang babaw naman.


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[uls]

So ibig sabihin lahat ng kami na galit sa war ngayon eh dahil lang mapuputi kasi affected? Ang babaw naman.


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shadow, click this

posted by jut703 last night

‘Double standards’: Western coverage of Ukraine war criticised | Russia-Ukraine war News | Al Jazeera

[shadow]

shadow, click this

posted by jut703 last night

‘Double standards’: Western coverage of Ukraine war criticised | Russia-Ukraine war News | Al Jazeera

Nabasa ko na yan saka yun biased nga na sinasabi yun nag report sa isang news doon last week yata.

Wala naman nag deny niyang, but for us na hinde naman blue eyes, blonde hair it's doesn't apply. We can hate what putin did for other reasons. Disruption nanaman ng mundo...

My point is can't people just be anti- war especially ngayon panahon?

Lagi kasi balik sa History when we are just talking about this specific war.


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[uls]

like i said western-centric kasi ang pinoy

kung sino kalaban ng mga kano, galit din tayo sa kalaban ng kano

dahil consumers tayo ng american media, pop culture (movies, TV, music etc)

sa mga american movies throughout the decades the bad guys are always the russians, islamic terrorists...

in real life galit tayo kay saddam, kay gaddafi...

we're not even aware media shaped how we perceive the world

[shadow]

like i said western-centric kasi ang pinoy

kung sino kalaban ng mga kano, galit din tayo sa kalaban ng kano

dahil consumers tayo ng american media, pop culture (movies, TV, music etc)

sa mga american movies throughout the decades the bad guys are always the russians, islamic terrorists...

in real life galit tayo kay saddam, kay gaddafi...

we're not even aware media shaped how we perceive the world

Meron influence no doubt but again, what's to like kay Saddam, Gaddafi sama na natin si Bin Laden saka putin.

Ano meron common sa kanilang lahat?

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[uls]

i'm saying we need to look at things from other points of view

di lang lagi from the POV of cnn

[uls]

Meron influence no doubt but again, what's to like kay Saddam, Gaddafi sama na natin si Bin Laden saka putin.

Ano meron common sa kanilang lahat?

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kung ano sa pagkaalam mo common sa kanila hindi ba turo sayo yan ng western media?

have you ever read or heard an alternative story?

many years ago someone asked me sa tingin ko ano reason US invaded iraq

syempre sabi ko coz saddam's a bad guy bla bla bla (coz i'm a consumer of western media)

sabi sakin what if it's coz saddam wanted to sell oil in another currency

kung nangyari yun at sumunod ang ibang oil producing countries, what would happen to the petrodollar system?

[Egan101]

The Bosnian War was primarily a civil war between the two key groups in Bosnia Herzegovina - the Muslim Bosniaks and the Orthodox Bosnian Serbs. The Bosniaks were at a disadvantage since Serbia was supporting the Bosnian Serbs.

NATO intervened via deliberate air strikes and a no fly zone. This reduced the military capabilities of the Bosnian Serbs as well as punishing Serbia for its participation.

NATO despite its display of might is not prepared for an all-out war with Russia. In 2008, Georgia triggered the war in Ossetia/Abkazhia but faced the onslaught of the Russian Army. Tbilisi was under siege like Kiev now. NATO did not intervene and left Georgia on its own.


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[shadow]

kung ano sa pagkaalam mo common sa kanila hindi ba turo sayo yan ng western media?

have you ever read or heard an alternative story?

many years ago someone asked me sa tingin ko ano reason US invaded iraq

syempre sabi ko coz saddam's a bad guy bla bla bla (coz i'm a consumer of western media)

sabi sakin what if it's coz saddam wanted to sell oil in another currency

kung nangyari yun at sumunod ang ibang oil producing countries, what would happen to the petrodollar system?

And napasok na rin sa isip natin na America gusto ng giyera because kumikita sila pag meron war.

Plus yun sinasabi mo ng habol nila oil. Alam na din ng lahat.


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[Egan101]

And napasok na rin sa isip natin na America gusto ng giyera because kumikita sila pag meron war.

Plus yun sinasabi mo ng habol nila oil. Alam na din ng lahat.


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Well, in a way, the US thrives in global conflict. They opened the 20th century in a war against Spain and almost every few years after that, they played a big part in every major conflict.

World War 1 (1914 to 1918)
World War 2 (1939 to 1945)
Korea (1950 to 1953)
Vietnam (1961 to 1975)
Grenada (1984)
War on Drugs (1970s to 1990s)
Desert Storm (1991)
Somalia (1993)
Bosnia (1995)
War on Terror (2001-present)
Afghanistan (2001-2021)
Iraq (2003-2011)


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[kisshmet]

Nabasa ko na yan saka yun biased nga na sinasabi yun nag report sa isang news doon last week yata.

Wala naman nag deny niyang, but for us na hinde naman blue eyes, blonde hair it's doesn't apply. We can hate what putin did for other reasons. Disruption nanaman ng mundo...

My point is can't people just be anti- war especially ngayon panahon?

Lagi kasi balik sa History when we are just talking about this specific war.


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war is ugly..it should be avoided at all cost..but sometimes its resorted to just to deliver a message..russias message about this war is simple THERES NO PLACE FOR THEM TO RETREAT BUT TO THE WEST..thats russias way of pushing NATO back

russia waited 8 years for this NATO PUSH BACK since 2014 after the maidan revolt in ukraine

the CIA even tried to replicate the maidan revolt in belarus and recently in kazakhstan which all failed due to timely intervention of putin having learned from history of the maidan revolt

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