Is WWIII inevitable?

[uls]

Parang si Kag's lang ah, hindi maka-move-on.

Yung japanese nga mas matindi ginawa sa atin as a nation kesa Spain at US in such a short time eh. Pero sa west ka talaga galit na galit. Sabagay chinese kool-aid naman iniinum mo obviously, saan ba nakakabili niyan?

The better question is will the Russian or Chinese leadership of the world be any different? Would it be better? Judging by how the WPS is being handled by China, the answer is as clear as the disputed waters.

Kaya if some tsikoteers does not align with your view on China's ascent and impending dominance with such candor, gets mo na din siguro bakit. And please, don't assume that all here are blind fanatics of the west. I believe majority here uses discernment on a per issue basis rather than being generalist.

RE: my analogy, let's agree to disagree. Russy is spurned by Ukray for me. Plain and simple. Russy wants her back, she ain't having it. Kill na lang. Still not a good move imho.

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di lang naman history of past centuries

they're still at it

contemporary history: US/UK fabricated the WMD story to justify bombing Iraq

that's just 1 example

western-centric people (like pinoys) don't see those events as invasions coz western propaganda (via their influential/powerful media) painted the picture that the West are good guys fighting of evil in foreign lands

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[uls]

yun din nde ko ma gets, why keep on bringing back what the west did to justify what Russia or Putin is doing right now.

huwag double standard

pag US/UK nag bomba ng ibang bansa hindi invasion (Iraq)

pag Russia gumawa invasion

[uls]

walang moral authority ang West mag determine what's good and bad para sa buong mundo

they got blood on their hands din

[kagalingan]

ano nababasa ko post ng deLawan na hindi daw makamove-on si kagaLingan???? Ako yun ah!!!!! hahaha

kaya nga asensado china dahiL may pinangangatawanan. Kaya iLabas ang titeh

Eh pinas sumobra sa moveon. InLababo sa sumakop. Kaya ang epekto BUGOK!!!!

#sistockhoLmnakastockingsyuck

[uls]

why does the West get to set the standard for what's right and wrong in this world?

[shadow]

walang moral authority ang West mag determine what's good and bad para sa buong mundo

they got blood on their hands din

Tama yan, America also have bloods on their hands but sino dapat maging world police? Sinong walang country andg walang sins of the past?

Russia? China? At least ngayon meron semblance ng democracy. Pwedeng yun lang gusto nila pinapakita at fake pero iba ginagawa. Well at least I can feel it. Kesa na harap harapan na bawal internet, walang Twitter and can't speak my mind dahil bawal.

Parang mga engot na BBM supporters lang ngayon, mga pinaka maingay and galit na galit sa mga dilawan while they don't reliazed dahil mga engot nga that theh can't do whatever they're doing now kung under martial law pa ni Marcos tayo at nagagawa nila yun ka engotan nila ngayon dahil sa EDSA revolution.

I don't even want to think kung Russia and China and maging world police ngayon pa lang nga garapal na ginagawa ng china sa atin. Huag na pagusapan sa other poor countries.


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[uls]

why does the West get to set the standard for what's right and wrong in this world?

simple lang sagot sa sarili kong tanong

MIGHT MAKES RIGHT

MIGHT IS RIGHT

[Egan101]

No need for Russia to invade Moldova. They already have troops there. Parang Belarus din yan Moldova.

I get the point of Uls. It may be wrong for Russia to invade Ukraine but the US and its allies also have blood on their hands. Iraq and Afghanistan were all but a sham.

As I have said before, there is no right or wrong in geopolitics but merely state interests. In the days of the Bosnian War, NATO participated heavily in quelling the capabilities of the Bosnian Serbs and Serbia. On a different part of the world, there was always war in Africa and nobody cared. NATO had no care whatsoever if Africans are killing each other by the thousands.

In the 90s, Sierra Leone was a failed state and the world didn’t care. Europeans even profited with the war as it got cheap blood diamonds out of Liberia. If not for the help of South African mercenaries, Sierra Leone could have even dwell deeper into chaos.


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[shadow]

simple lang sagot sa sarili kong tanong

MIGHT MAKES RIGHT

MIGHT IS RIGHT

Yan din naman gusto ng Russia and China diba? Kung na dislodge nila US as the most powerful nation, will they be the model world police unlike US? I think mas grabe pa sila dahil kung ngaykn nga ginagawa na nila paano pa kung ibigay mo power sa kanila.


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[uls]

Yan din naman gusto ng Russia and China diba? Kung na dislodge nila US as the most powerful nation, will they be the model world police unlike US? I think mas grabe pa sila dahil kung ngaykn nga ginagawa na nila paano pa kung ibigay mo power sa kanila.


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Yes obviously hindi masaya ang china and russia to live under the rules set by the west

they want to be free from the west

[Egan101]

This war could have been averted if NATO stopped militarizing the neighbors of Russia. They could have lessen the paranoia of Putin.

What they did was the other way around. They were also in the business of bullying Russia into a corner.

Akala ko ba siga yung USA? Why not let Russia have it? Takot lang sila kamo. They were able to crash Iraq into submission. Russia, on the other hand, is a different situation. Unless the USA wants to have its people live in nuclear bunkers, they will just have Ukraine fend for itself.


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[uls]

No need for Russia to invade Moldova. They already have troops there. Parang Belarus din yan Moldova.

I get the point of Uls. It may be wrong for Russia to invade Ukraine but the US and its allies also have blood on their hands. Iraq and Afghanistan were all but a sham.

As I have said before, there is no right or wrong in geopolitics but merely state interests. In the days of the Bosnian War, NATO participated heavily in quelling the capabilities of the Bosnian Serbs and Serbia. On a different part of the world, there was always war in Africa and nobody cared. NATO had no care whatsoever if Africans are killing each other by the thousands.

In the 90s, Sierra Leone was a failed state and the world didn’t care. Europeans even profited with the war as it got cheap blood diamonds out of Liberia. If not for the help of South African mercenaries, Sierra Leone could have even dwell deeper into chaos.


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the west only cares when white blonde blue eyed people are being shelled/bombed

coz those are "real people"

pag afghans, syrians, iraqis etc they're not exactly people

[uls]

This war could have been averted if NATO stopped militarizing the neighbors of Russia. They could have lessen the paranoia of Putin.

What they did was the other way around. They were also in the business of bullying Russia into a corner.

Akala ko ba siga yung USA? Why not let Russia have it? Takot lang sila kamo. They were able to crash Iraq into submission. Russia, on the other hand, is a different situation. Unless the USA wants to have its people live in nuclear bunkers, they will just have Ukraine fend for itself.


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kaya lang ng US invade mga bansa walang nuclear weapons

that's why Kim Jong Un detonated nuclear bombs in his mountain and kept launching missiles... to show the US what he got

seems to be working -- the US hasn't invaded NK yet

[jut703]

ang sinasabi ko pag ang West nag invade ng ibang bansa ok lang (Iraq, Afghanistan etc)

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mali daw mag invade ng sovereign nation (ukraine)

hindi sovereign nation ang Iraq?

double standard

I don’t agree that the invasion of Iraq was justified, just as I don’t agree that Ukraine should be invaded by Russia. In both cases, I side against the aggressor (US and Russia).

Yes, Ukraine is getting more sympathy than other war-stricken Middle Eastern countries. That doesn’t mean that the proper response is to not call out Russia. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Take a stand for Ukraine, and take a stand for all other countries whose sovereignty is under threat.

In instances of oppression, neutrality helps the oppressor, not the victim.


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[Egan101]

kaya lang ng US invade mga bansa walang nuclear weapons

that's why Kim Jong Un detonated nuclear bombs in his mountain and kept launching missiles... to show the US what he got

seems to be working -- the US hasn't invaded NK yet

The same with Pakistan, despite that country cuddling the Taliban and other Islamic extremists. The US kicked out the Taliban out of Afghanistan and their fighters just regrouped in Pakistan. When the US left, the Taliban just sweeped right in. Twenty years for nothing!


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[jut703]

Yes obviously hindi masaya ang china and russia to live under the rules set by the west

they want to be free from the west

You didn’t answer shadow’s point.

So let’s assume China and Russia dislodge the US as the #1 superpower, it’s not like they won’t do the same crap that you’re calling out the US on.

If the US is a dick, it’s not ok, but if China and Russia do it, it’s fine?


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[Egan101]

Let’s take the case of the 1991 Gulf War. Iraq invaded Kuwait and the US rallied others to push Iraq out.

The same is happening now with Russia and Ukraine. Why aren’t the US and its allies moving to take out Russia? With all these massive modern weaponry at their disposal, why not showcase it all? It will surely be big business after everyone gathers on a table to agree to stop the shooting.

All these superpowers are equally complicit to the wars that have occurred over the past centuries. Neither one could announce to the world that they are for peace. If you have the power, you can get away with it.


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[marky2115]

^Because nobody wants to start the real WW3. NATO against Russia and China is a BIG war.

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[H1Tman]

Let’s take the case of the 1991 Gulf War. Iraq invaded Kuwait and the US rallied others to push Iraq out.

The same is happening now with Russia and Ukraine. Why aren’t the US and its allies moving to take out Russia? With all these massive modern weaponry at their disposal, why not showcase it all? It will surely be big business after everyone gathers on a table to agree to stop the shooting.

All these superpowers are equally complicit to the wars that have occurred over the past centuries. Neither one could announce to the world that they are for peace. If you have the power, you can get away with it.


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Because Ukraine is not a member of NATO.

[Egan101]

Because Ukraine is not a member of NATO.

Kuwait was not a member of NATO but it has what most countries need - petroleum. It was desperate and asked for help. A big number of countries joined the fight to push Iraq out of Kuwait.

The US was just protecting its interests in petroleum in the Persian Gulf. They had to protect Saudi Arabia above anything else.


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