Is WWIII inevitable?

[boybi]

Biden and the people around him

warmongers

di masaya pag walang gera

is it clear now which country is the real threat to world peace?

Nooooo!!!! The US is the savior of the World and the Universe!!!

[uls]

May 25

the American and British establishment want Ukraine to take back all the territory including Crimea and they'll keep arming Ukraine until that goal is reached

but that will prolong the war and cost more ukrainian lives

there are already voices within the establishment calling for "negotiated settlement"

meaning ceasefire and ukraine giving up territory to russia

let's see if "negotiated settlement" will gain ground within the establishment

Zelensky wants the West to keep supplying weapons hanggang mapalayas nila ang Russia from Ukraine territory

meaning pati Donbas, pati Crimea

that's gonna be an incredible amount of fighting (and cost of lives of course)

American and British warmongers actually want that

but saner voices inside the Establishment are proposing de-escalation

negotiate with Putin to end the war... ang kapalit Ukraine gives up territory to Russia

looks like "negotiated settlement" is gaining ground

[Athrunzala]

May 25




Zelensky wants the West to keep supplying weapons hanggang mapalayas nila ang Russia from Ukraine territory

meaning pati Donbas, pati Crimea

that's gonna be an incredible amount of fighting (and cost of lives of course)

American and British warmongers actually want that

but saner voices inside the Establishment are proposing de-escalation

negotiate with Putin to end the war... ang kapalit Ukraine gives up territory to Russia

looks like "negotiated settlement" is gaining ground

Nawala na yung Western Propaganda na nananalo daw ang Ukraine... haha!

[boybi]

Mukha naman kasi naka-droga yang si zelensky, lahat ng bansa blame nya kahit tinutulungan na sya. Gusto talaga nya gyerahin ng lahat ang russia. Sino ngayon ang mas masama?

[uls]

Nawala na yung Western Propaganda na nananalo daw ang Ukraine... haha!

napansin ko yun

dati it sounded like Ukraine is winning -- dami napapatay na russian soldiers, dami nasisira na russian tanks, dami napapabagsak na russia planes...

pero recently mainstream media says Russia is gaining in eastern ukraine

if they're saying that that means meron consent galing sa itaas

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may dalawang kampo ngayon within the Western Establishment (US, UK, EU)

those who want to prolong the war to weaken russia (and sacrifice more ukrainian lives in the process but they don't really care)

those who want to end the war

let's see who will prevail

[kisshmet]

anything goes with saber rattling so biden is entitled to whatever he wants to say in public

but in reality it will be taiwan vs china where the US will simply supply the taiwanese with the weapons they need to defeat a chinese naval assault

US anti-ship missiles vs chinese navys latest boats and my money is on the anti-ship missiles

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[Flipo]

Amir Tsarfati
This is the tripartite deal that is being formed between Israel, Saudi Arabia and the United States:

In return to Israeli approval to the change of sovereignty of two islands on the Red Sea from Egyptian to Saudii, a move that will help the growth of the futuristic city of Neom, Saudi Arabia will completely open its airspace to Israeli flights - a move that is expected to bring about a dramatic change in the aviation market.

In return to Washington‘a halt of the boycott on the Saudi Crown Prince following his involvement in the 2018 assassination of the Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul, Saudi Arabia will increase its oil production in order to assist Washington in tackling the energy crisis created by the war in Ukraine.

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[Egan101]

Business is booming. Let’s keep arming the Ukrainians! Hehehe


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[uls]

Business is booming. Let’s keep arming the Ukrainians! Hehehe


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watch this video

specially the part where the guest speaks (1:40)

[kisshmet]

defense industry is the only industry that the US kept in mainland USA

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[uls]

pero nag iimport ng piesa from china

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anyway, para lagi may income ang US defense industry kailangan lagi may gera ang US

since tapos na ang Iraq, Afghanistan they need a new war

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since tapos na ang Iraq, Afghanistan they need a new war

[kisshmet]

^the west exploits cheap chinese labor..its more profitable to do it that way

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[uls]

because they don'r make parts domestically

[Athrunzala]

NATO Kicks Off Baltic War Games With Finland, Sweden As Russia Tensions Boil

NATO Kicks Off Baltic War Games With Finland, Sweden As Russia Tensions Boil

[Athrunzala]

Medvedev: "We can consider that the Horsemen of the Apocalypse are already on their way"

[tsupermario]

French President Emmanuel Macron asked Ukraine to make concessions on its sovereignty to help Russian leader Vladimir Putin save face, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said.

In an interview with Italian TV channel RAI’s “Porta a Porta” talk show broadcast Thursday evening, Zelenskyy was asked about Macron’s comments on Monday, in which he warned Europe must avoid humiliating Putin.

“We want the Russian army to leave our land — we aren’t on Russian soil,” Zelenskyy replied. “We won’t help Putin save face by paying with our territory. That would be unjust.” Zelenskyy added that Ukraine would never recognize Russia’s annexation of Crimea.

Zelenskyy: Macron asked Ukraine to make concessions to help Putin save face – POLITICO

[uls]

like i said

there's dissent within the Western establshment

hindi lahat sangayon sa goal ni biden -- to prolong the war to weaken russia

Zelenskyy: Macron asked Ukraine to make concessions to help Putin save face – POLITICO

[tsupermario]

“We must not humiliate Russia so that the day when the fighting stops we can build an exit ramp through diplomatic means,” Macron said Saturday during an interview with a local paper, Reuters reported. “I am convinced that it is France’s role to be a mediating power.”

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky also appeared to reference Macron’s comment in an address Saturday night, saying: “The Russian army can stop burning churches. The Russian army can stop destroying cities. The Russian army can stop killing children. If the same person in Moscow just gives such an order. And the fact that there is still no such order is an obvious humiliation for the whole world.”

Ukraine minister fires back after France’s Macron said not to ‘humiliate Russia’ | The Hill

[Flipo]

Russia has already lost the war | Philstar.com

Russia has already lost the war
POLITICAL FUTURES - Ian Bremmer - The Philippine Star
June 9, 2022 | 12:00am

Russia continues to make gains on the ground in Ukraine, particularly in the Donbas region where the war’s fighting is now most intense. President Vladimir Putin can and will inflict more pain, and though his military isn’t strong enough to overthrow the Zelensky government and capture all of Ukraine as he initially hoped, he’s confident that Ukraine isn’t strong enough to oust his troops from the territory it already holds. He also knows that the global food and fuel inflation his war creates will test the limits of Western resolve to continue support for Ukraine at its current levels.

But from a longer-term perspective, Russia has already lost this war, and Putin’s decision to invade will be remembered as one of the biggest blunders by any leader of a major power in decades.

What did Putin hope his invasion would accomplish? His stated goals were the “de-Nazification and de-militarization” of Ukraine. By de-Nazification, he meant the removal of any Ukrainian government that preferred stronger ties with Europe than with Russia. With de-militarization, he wanted to strip Ukraine of any ability to challenge Russian dominance in the future, whoever was in charge in Kyiv.

His ambition extended well beyond Ukraine. He also wanted to demonstrate to the US and Europe that Russia must be treated as a great power capable of defining its own sphere of influence. He wanted to expose the Western powers as weak-willed and divided. He also hoped to bolster his standing with the Russian people, as the 2014 seizure and annexation of Crimea had done.

What has he achieved?

Putin has exposed Russia as a delusional and dangerous power that wants to redesign Europe’s security architecture and redraw the boundaries of a neighboring democracy with brute force and a steady stream of lies about its motives. He has demonstrated that he has no idea what Ukrainians are willing to fight for or how the West will respond to large-scale, naked aggression.

He has inflicted generational damage on his own military. More Russians have been killed in action in 100 days in Ukraine than Soviet soldiers died in a decade in Afghanistan. Large numbers of tanks and other heavy weapons have been lost. Artillery supplies have dwindled. US export controls on the sale of critical parts to Russia will further undermine Russian efforts to restock. He has also given the rest of the world an unobstructed view of Russian capabilities, limitations and vulnerabilities. He also inflicted substantial damage on the morale of a fighting force that was badly ill-equipped for the mission its leader had in mind.

Putin has given Europe and the United States a sense of common purpose that hasn’t existed since the Cold War’s end. He has reminded many Europeans why American help is so valuable and shown Americans that Europeans will make tough choices and painful sacrifices to defend Western values. He has expanded NATO, current objections from Turkey’s President Erdogan notwithstanding, and doubled the length of the Russian-NATO border by persuading Finland and Sweden that they are safer inside the alliance than outside it. Two-thirds of voters in Euro-skeptic Denmark have now voted to tighten defense ties with the EU.

He has saddled his economy with US and European sanctions that are unlikely to be lifted while Putin remains in power. He has created long-term shortages of critical spare parts for Russian manufacturing. He has left himself vulnerable to criticism from Russians who hate the international isolation they know is coming but also from those who feel he has mismanaged a war Russia should easily have won.

He has persuaded the European Union to make drastic cuts to its imports of Russian energy, a vital source of revenue for Putin’s government. He has proven to European leaders that they must spend much more money on Europe’s defense. All these developments were all but unthinkable before Russia started amassing troops along Ukraine’s borders.

Putin has also left his country deeply dependent on China’s (still limited) good will. The process of diverting large volumes of Russian energy from Europe to Asia will take a lot of time and money – and, with fewer willing buyers, Russia will have to sell its commodities at discounted prices.

In return for all that, he might win control of Ukraine’s Donbas region and more Black Sea coastline to link that territory with Russian-controlled Crimea.

Russia isn’t entirely isolated, of course. There are still people and governments in every region of the world who consider the United States a greater threat than Russia to the world’s peace and shared prosperity. Many governments will continue to buy Russian commodities and weapons, especially at necessarily lower prices.

But the worst of all this self-inflicted damage is irreversible for at least as long as Putin remains in charge. That’s why, though fighting in Ukraine may continue for months, even for years, Putin has already lost this war.

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Ian Bremmer is the president of Eurasia Group and GZERO Media and author The Power of Crisis.

[Egan101]

Nobody wants to fight a bear in a tight spot. It will surely claw its way out.


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