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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    And napasok na rin sa isip natin na America gusto ng giyera because kumikita sila pag meron war.

    Plus yun sinasabi mo ng habol nila oil. Alam na din ng lahat.


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    Hindi naman ito pataasan ng ihi "may alam ako na di niyo alam nye nye nye nye nye"

    That isn't it

    It's about being open to other points of view even if it makes you uncomfortable coz it challenges long held beliefs

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    Kung gaano kayo ka-pro west ganyan din ako dati

    Uncle Sam USA! USA!

    Sorry I changed many years ago

    Nasobrahan ng kababasa

    There's no going back

    #redpilled

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    Again, I'm just talking about this current war. I'm condemning this war, anong mahirap intindihin doon? Hinde ba pwede ihiwalay each issues? Yun sa Palestinian eh di gawan ng seperate topic pera pagusapan doon.

    Bakit kasi Russia attacking Ukraine topic then biglang naging ginagawa din naman ng America yan. So ok lang yan.

    And saka nga pala bias kayo sa Western hinde pwede condemn Russia. Ibalik na rin natin Kublai khan.


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    Yes, ako din… kahit balik-baliktarin, war is war…

    Be it west,east,north or south….


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Again, I'm just talking about this current war. I'm condemning this war, anong mahirap intindihin doon? Hinde ba pwede ihiwalay each issues? Yun sa Palestinian eh di gawan ng seperate topic pera pagusapan doon.

    Bakit kasi Russia attacking Ukraine topic then biglang naging ginagawa din naman ng America yan. So ok lang yan.

    And saka nga pala bias kayo sa Western hinde pwede condemn Russia. Ibalik na rin natin Kublai khan.


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    ayaw tigilan ng CIA ang russia in trying to convert its former states to go against russia..so do you expect russia to sit, relax and watch all their borders be littered with nuclear missiles aimed at moscow?

    this war is about PUSHING BACK NATO and showing the world what russia can do against the US and NATO

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Yes, ako din… kahit balik-baliktarin, war is war…

    Be it west,east,north or south….


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    And that's the point.

    Tsikoteers is not a microcosm of majority of Filipinos. That much is a fact naman siguro. Yes majority here are pro-western but as Jut said, we discern what is right and wrong and we are not fanatics.

    May mahilig lang naman kasi mag-assume dito na for majority here is that everything the west (or US) for that matter does is the right one.

    Yes media does it part to sway and bolster narrative, but a decent person, and majority here in tsikot, I am convinced, is not easily swayed. Plus people here also admits of mistakes, delusionals don't do that.

    With that as background, again the question not answered directly is whether the act of Putin is right or wrong? Daming segway.

    Tama na paikot-ikot, mapipikon na ferris wheel sa inyo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    ayaw tigilan ng CIA ang russia in trying to convert its former states to go against russia..so do you expect russia to sit, relax and watch all their borders be littered with nuclear missiles aimed at moscow?

    this war is about PUSHING BACK NATO and showing the world what russia can do against the US and NATO

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    And what pray tell, have they shown so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    ayaw tigilan ng CIA ang russia in trying to convert its former states to go against russia..so do you expect russia to sit, relax and watch all their borders be littered with nuclear missiles aimed at moscow?

    this war is about PUSHING BACK NATO and showing the world what russia can do against the US and NATO

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    At the expense of Ukraine...


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    ^as long as CIA keeps on doing what they are doing behind the scenes there will be WAR coz the US economy is run by the defense industry..the manufacturing of weapons is the only viable industry in the US now

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    uniqlo decides to stay in russia while zara and h&m suspends operations

    are you guys gonna boycott uniqlo?

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    ”NATO’s line has always been, the door to membership to NATO is open to any state that chooses that it wants to join NATO. If it makes that choice independently, then there is a process and criteria to follow,” Sean Monaghan, a visiting fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies who’s focused his career on international defense policy, including NATO, told McClatchy News.

    Countries who wish to join NATO need to meet “certain political, economic, and military goals.”

    In 1995, the Alliance published requirements that countries seeking NATO membership should fulfill. “These include:

    -a functioning democratic political system based on a market economy;

    -the fair treatment of minority populations;

    -a commitment to the peaceful resolution of conflicts;

    -the ability and willingness to make a military contribution to NATO operations; and

    -a commitment to democratic civil-military relations and institutional structures.”

    “So the basic point is that it is Ukraine’s choice. Now, in practical terms, absorbing a nation with a simmering conflict with unresolved territorial disputes would obviously be difficult for NATO because NATO then absorbs that conflict,” he added.

    Why isn’t Ukraine a NATO member already?

    “The feeling was, and probably still has been, that Ukraine hadn’t completely taken care of political corruption, that it was still developing its democracy,”
    Stanley Sloan, an expert in transatlantic relations at Middlebury College and a former international security officer, told McClatchy. “So there were some formal reasons why the Alliance could say that Ukraine was not ready yet to join the Alliance.”

    At the Bucharest Summit in 2008, NATO welcomed Ukraine’s bid for membership and agreed that it could eventually become a member of NATO if it met some requirements, according to NATO’s website.

    “There’s a lot of criteria for NATO membership. Ukraine didn’t really meet any of those, although it was on a path to meeting those,” Monaghan said. “And NATO was helping them meet those targets. There was a path then, but now that seems much, much less likely.”

    But Sloan explained that an unwritten reason why Ukraine was not allowed to join NATO was because of concerns from European leaders about how that would affect their relationship with Russia.

    “There are a lot of European Allies who were dead set against inviting Ukraine because they had hopes that they could develop a closer relationship with Moscow,” Sloan said.

    “So there was both the formal and technically accurate reason, but also an unspoken, for the most part, political reason as well,” he added.


    Monaghan explained that Russia’s strategy has been to foment conflicts in countries that might join NATO to make that process more difficult, like what is happening in Ukraine right now.

    Is there still a chance for Ukraine to join NATO now?

    “Unlikely, unlikely to happen. Just too fraught with too many difficulties at this point,” Sloan said when asked if Ukraine could join NATO now.


    Sloan did emphasize that sympathy for Ukraine is huge right now and that, depending on how this conflict turns out, “it could result in a change in attitude inside NATO about membership for Ukraine. But we’ve got a lot to go through.”

    “I think it’s an interesting question as to if the Alliance had overcome those areas of resistance earlier, whether we could have saved a lot of Ukrainian lives and Russian lives for that matter,” Sloan said. “But that’s all water over the dam.”
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    Since 2018, Hungary has been blocking ministerial-level political meetings between NATO and Ukraine as a sign of protest over Ukraine violating the human rights of its ethnic minorities. In light of the permanent Russian threat from the east, foreign policy experts and opinion leaders have in turn been calling Hungary the “Trojan Horse for Russia” within NATO. They see Hungary’s stance as an assistance to President Putin’s plans to block Ukraine’s Western integration and one undermining the unity of NATO in providing support for Ukraine.

    This narrative, however convincing, is false. Those who really want to understand the region’s dynamics and Ukraine’s unique challenges need to dig deeper to find a more complex picture.
    Why is Hungary 'blocking' Ukraine's NATO accession? | Embassy of Hungary Washington

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    ^as long as CIA keeps on doing what they are doing behind the scenes there will be WAR coz the US economy is run by the defense industry..the manufacturing of weapons is the only viable industry in the US now

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    Still doesn't make Putin's invasion right. Yun pa rin ang issue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    uniqlo decides to stay in russia while zara and h&m suspends operations

    are you guys gonna boycott uniqlo?
    Sigurado si Kags hinde. [emoji16]

    Eh hinde na rin kayo kain ng McDonalds and strabucks?

    Diba it sounds absurd yun tanong


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Sigurado si Kags hinde. [emoji16]

    Eh hinde na rin kayo kain ng McDonalds and strabucks?

    Diba it sounds absurd yun tanong


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    McDonald's, Starbucks, Coca-cola and Pepsi, nag stop na din ng operations sa Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Sigurado si Kags hinde. [emoji16]

    Eh hinde na rin kayo kain ng McDonalds and strabucks?

    Diba it sounds absurd yun tanong


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    Netflix also suspended its operations in Russia. They are joking sa social media if Coke follows that would be war because nobody could live without coke [emoji23]

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    McDonald's, Starbucks, Coca-cola and Pepsi, nag stop na din ng operations sa Russia.
    So since maraming galit sa America eh di marami na rin maging healthy ngayon 2022 pag boycott lahat yan. [emoji16]

    Hinde maging katulad ng mga obese na Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    So since maraming galit sa America eh di marami na rin maging healthy ngayon 2022 pag boycott lahat yan. [emoji16]

    Hinde maging katulad ng mga obese na Americans.
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    ano connection sa mga "galit sa america" na wala sa russia?

    those companies decided only to stop operating in russia

    so only russians will become healthier

    hehe

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