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    #241
    Quote Originally Posted by MrQ5 View Post
    eto ang gusto mangyari ng mga Kiram international attention from UN (and recently the conflict was aired in BBC news) and not to win the ground battle in Sabah. Siempre yung nagsulsol naman ang gusto political dilemma for PNoy.
    Hanggang ganyan lang siguro UN, maglabas ng standard statement para naman masabi meron sila ginagawa...nakanap fully ng butas mga kirams...tsk tsk tsk...

    Kawawa naman oh, "sumunod" na sila sa UN bakit Malaysia hinde pa! Public sympathy...

    Damian pa namatay at nadamay ng mga civilians na pinoy doon dahil lang gusto nila pataasan rent ng Malaysia...

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    Kirams cannot demand anything...even a ceasefire. It's now beyond their control...

    Body count is ticking up...

    52 Filipinos, 8 Malaysia cops killed in Sabah clashes as of late Thursday - InterAksyon.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Nag labas pa kasi ng statement UN eh, nakahanap tuloy ng palusot mga kirams...sumusunod daw sila sa UN for peaceful means kaya nag issue ng ceasefire.

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    Our brothers needed that reprieve....Just in the nick of time....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Kirams cannot demand anything...even a ceasefire. It's now beyond their control...

    Body count is ticking up...

    52 Filipinos, 8 Malaysia cops killed in Sabah clashes as of late Thursday - InterAksyon.com
    Ang problem naman if kasama ba talaga sa Kiram group yung mga Pinoy na namatay? Baka kasi Gestapo tactics na ang ginagawa ng Malaysian Police. Lalong lalala yan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    Our brothers needed that reprieve....Just in the nick of time....

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    too bad it was rejected by Malaysia. their PM even flew there to show how serious they are

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    too bad it was rejected by Malaysia. their PM even flew there to show how serious they are
    Just goes to show that the UN, sadly is still a Toothless Tiger, as always.....

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    #247
    Tutal hati ang opinion ng mga pinoy dito sa issue na to...Yung iba nakikisimpatiya kay kiram dahil sa Pilipinas nga naman talaga daw ang Sabah, dapat supportahan kapwa pinoy etc etc, samantala yung iba naiinis kasi epal et makasarili di dapat ganun ang ginawa etc etc.

    Bakit di nalang magtayo ng volunteer division ang Pilipinas, lahat ng pinoy na sumusupporta kay kiram magvolunteer at ipadala sa sabah as reinforcement, armasan na rin, tutal nag ROTC naman siguro kayo at marunong mag martsa martsa sa initan. Kung magtagumpay kayo paghatihatian niyo yung lupa at magtayo kayo ng sarili niyong bansa!

    Yung ayaw dito nalang sa tsikot at mag type type nalang.

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    #248
    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Tutal hati ang opinion ng mga pinoy dito sa issue na to...Yung iba nakikisimpatiya kay kiram dahil sa Pilipinas nga naman talaga daw ang Sabah, dapat supportahan kapwa pinoy etc etc, samantala yung iba naiinis kasi epal et makasarili di dapat ganun ang ginawa etc etc.

    Bakit di nalang magtayo ng volunteer division ang Pilipinas, lahat ng pinoy na sumusupporta kay kiram magvolunteer at ipadala sa sabah as reinforcement, armasan na rin, tutal nag ROTC naman siguro kayo at marunong mag martsa martsa sa initan. Kung magtagumpay kayo paghatihatian niyo yung lupa at magtayo kayo ng sarili niyong bansa!

    Yung ayaw dito nalang sa tsikot at mag type type nalang.
    mag volunteer ka na sir oliver... dalin mo yung tangke mo dun... he.he...

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    #249
    bakit sumusuporta ba ko kay kiram?

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    #250
    wish ko nga pumunta na din dun MILF, MNLF, NPA, lalong lalo na ABUSAYAF....

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    wish ko nga pumunta na din dun MILF, MNLF, NPA, lalong lalo na ABUSAYAF....
    What a sight it would be kung lahat ng pinondohan ng Malaysia eh pumunta ng Sabah at magbigay ng backup kay Kiram...

    However, ang laking kahihiyan lalo sa Pilipinas yun... armed militia better than the military and a gov't who doesn't give a f*ck to its people.

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    #252
    Quote Originally Posted by stickers View Post
    What a sight it would be kung lahat ng pinondohan ng Malaysia eh pumunta ng Sabah at magbigay ng backup kay Kiram...

    However, ang laking kahihiyan lalo sa Pilipinas yun... armed militia better than the military and a gov't who doesn't give a f*ck to its people.
    I beg to disagree. Since when was the "Royal Army" better than the AFP? Is it because they scattered and fled when the bombs started dropping?

    And how can you say the government "doesn't give a f*ck to its people"? There are more Pinoys who are staying in Malaysia legitimately than this merry band of armed idiots running around in Sabah proclaiming their property rights. Its the Kiram's who don't give a s#it about how their actions could affect thousands of Filipinos.

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    #253
    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    I beg to disagree. Since when was the "Royal Army" better than the AFP? Is it because they scattered and fled when the bombs started dropping?

    And how can you say the government "doesn't give a f*ck to its people"? There are more Pinoys who are staying in Malaysia legitimately than this merry band of armed idiots running around in Sabah proclaiming their property rights. Its the Kiram's who don't give a s#it about how their actions could affect thousands of Filipinos.
    +1 on this. Ang gusto nila ubusan ng lahi, pero kasama lahat ng Pinoy vs Malaysian. But then, huh?!?!

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    #254
    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    I beg to disagree. Since when was the "Royal Army" better than the AFP? Is it because they scattered and fled when the bombs started dropping?

    And how can you say the government "doesn't give a f*ck to its people"? There are more Pinoys who are staying in Malaysia legitimately than this merry band of armed idiots running around in Sabah proclaiming their property rights. Its the Kiram's who don't give a s#it about how their actions could affect thousands of Filipinos.
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    "No one should underestimate Malaysia's resolve to uphold the principle that Sabah is part of Malaysia forever and (this) cannot be questioned by anyone, be it from within or outside the country." Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak
    This is what Kiram's goons achieved.

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    #256
    Why do the simple-minded want the PH to go to war with Malaysia to save the asses of Kiram's group?

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    #257
    Quote Originally Posted by stickers View Post
    What a sight it would be kung lahat ng pinondohan ng Malaysia eh pumunta ng Sabah at magbigay ng backup kay Kiram...

    However, ang laking kahihiyan lalo sa Pilipinas yun... armed militia better than the military and a gov't who doesn't give a f*ck to its people.
    Sir ,

    Kung Ikw po ba ang magdedecide in this situation , would you really come to the rescue for the kirams and sacrifice the whole 90 million Filipinos who are just trying to get by everyday?

    Typical na filipino tactic naman kasi masyado yung ginagawa ng mga kirams e, Pupunta ka dun to assert your claim through aa armed conflict , then you expect to ask for a ceasefire in the middle of the fight since you are already losing the battle? And expect for the sympathy of the world?

    In my opinion , a good head of state is not just deciding for the benefit for a few people , rather making a difficult decision for the whole nation .

    Just my 2 cents

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    #258
    Quote Originally Posted by stickers View Post
    What a sight it would be kung lahat ng pinondohan ng Malaysia eh pumunta ng Sabah at magbigay ng backup kay Kiram...

    However, ang laking kahihiyan lalo sa Pilipinas yun... armed militia better than the military and a gov't who doesn't give a f*ck to its people.
    Malaysian government spent millions to protect their interest to an oil rich state Sabah and yet their military is no much with their own moslem trainees that they are fighting now. The word is KARMA...

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    #259
    Just to add to threx666's views...

    Let's think it through: if the PH government does lend support to the sultan, that's like declaring war on Malaysia -- country vs. country. Damay lahat ng PH -- you, me, your family. What if Malaysia invades Mindanao -- nay, Manila? What if everything really goes wrong, and we're forced to draft Pinoys into this war? Are you willing to go and fight? Are you willing to offer your sons, maybe even daughters, for the sultan's "cause" ?

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    #260
    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    Just to add to threx666's views...

    Let's think it through: if the PH government does lend support to the sultan, that's like declaring war on Malaysia -- country vs. country. Damay lahat ng PH -- you, me, your family. What if Malaysia invades Mindanao -- nay, Manila? What if everything really goes wrong, and we're forced to draft Pinoys into this war? Are you willing to go and fight? Are you willing to offer your sons, maybe even daughters, for the sultan's "cause" ?
    no way! just because of a reckless, selfish act of that damn sultan the whole Phl will suffer

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