Sabah Standoff Issues

[iOz]

Yup. Common sense na lang na hindi susugod ang mga yun ng walang bala at pera. At hindi pupunta dun na sakto lang ang dala. :D

I agree with you * BB, sino namang tanga ang susugod ng hindi handa. KL is now blaming former deputy PM Anwar Ibrahim for funding the standoff.

[ryanwilder]

To decide on this is simple, what really did the Sultanate of Sulu and the MNLF do for Mindanao and constitutients? Did the lived of people there improve, do they have a good functioning government since this jabidah massacre.

If it's just a title then what good does it do?

Tama si p-noy, the philippines should partner with Malaysia.now these troublemakers will have two governements to deal with, get rid of them once and for all.

From the videos, sabah is better off with those high-end police cars, than what become like sulu, where lawlessness still prevail.

*shadow kinakalawang na panlaban mo, but i feel you bro.

*uls, my business killer instincts tells me na dapat totally annihilation na yan, and Malaysia is a good ally against this armed groups.

[chrismarte]

pasok na rin mga NPA sumasawsaw na si Satur! nakikisimpatiya daw sila sa mga kiram.

Padala na sila ng tao dun tapos sya maging batallion commander.... ubos ang problema nang pinas sa mga leftists

[Syuryuken]

Wala namang mapapala ang gobyerno natin kahit maibalik pa ang Sabah ang mga Kiram lang naman ang makikinabang pag-aari nga daw nila ang Sabah hindi ng Pilipinas. Sarili nilang laban yan hayaan na natin.

[CoDer]

Yung kaibigan kong tausug, sobrang tapang, talagang patay kung patay daw eh. Nabigla nga ako kasi kabiruan ko yun lagi tapos biglang nakausap ko ng seryoso, nakakatakot pala.

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Lumaki ako sa South Cotabato paps, matapang lang yang mga yan pag maraming kasama.

[awing]

Malaysia: At Least 26 Dead in Ongoing Sabah Siege | TIME.com

At Least 26 Dead in Ongoing Sabah Siege

The three-week standoff involving a band of Filipino rebels who stormed a northern Borneo village has now claimed at least 26 lives. Two Malaysian commandos and a dozen members of the Royal Army of Sulu died in a police raid on the insurgent-held territory on Friday evening, with a further five Malaysian policemen ambushed and killed nearby the next day. Another seven insurgents were reportedly slain in a separate incident on Saturday. While most of the remaining Sulu militants refuse to budge, police fear that some are planning further strikes in the surrounding coastal regions. The turmoil is causing domestic upheaval for the two governments involved; Malaysia has general elections due before the end of June, while Philippine President Benigno Aquino III could face renewed strife on home soil after he appeared to sanction the foreign use of deadly force against his defiant countrymen.

The situation, which was at first greeted with raised eyebrows within the international community, has deteriorated rapidly. On Feb. 9, more than 100 followers of self-professed Sultan Jamalul Kiram III, from the autonomous island province of Sulu in the southwestern Philippines, landed in the Malaysian province of Sabah to press their historic claim to the land. They seized control of the village of Lahad Datu only to be surrounded by the Malaysian security forces. Philippine President Benigno Aquino III appealed for his compatriots to return home peacefully and even sent a navy ship staffed with Filipino-Muslim leaders, social workers and medical personnel to facilitate their withdrawal. However, he finally lost patience with the recalcitrant Sulu insurgents and on Saturday said that they must surrender “without conditions.” The rebels had previously snubbed two deadlines to vacate the land.

(MORE: Sabah Standoff: Diplomatic Drama After Filipino Militants Storm Malaysia)

The president’s uncompromising stance may have far-reaching consequences. Mohagher Iqbal, the leader of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), which signed a peace deal with the Manila government in October after four decades of armed struggle, has already admitted that their own peace talks have been affected. The Philippine media has also been critical of Aquino’s stance. “President Aquino and his officials were throwing to the Malaysian wolves Filipino Muslims digging in what they claimed was their legitimate homeland in Sabah,” says Rigoberto Tiglao in the Manila Times. “With that the president has driven the last nail on the coffin of the Philippine claim to Sabah,” read an editorial on Monday in the Philippine Daily Inquirer. “What he didn’t say to the sultan’s men was: If you get slaughtered by the Malaysians, that’s your fault. Condolences.”

Observers believe the driving force behind the Sabah incursion was anger among Sulu rebels for being left out of Malaysia-brokered peace talks with the MILF. Mujahid Yusof Rawa, an MP for Malaysia’s opposition Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party, told TIME that the rebels are trying to get the Malaysian government’s attention. “There are a lot of Sulu dissidents who have moved to Sabah over the past ten years — some of whom have been granted permanent residency — and their presence may complicate the matter,” he said. “I think the government is very wary of any backlash for the upcoming election.”

[rollyic]

let's spread the truth!!!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=429241227159232

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/667...ns-sabah-claim

[CVT]

I-quote ko lang bro ang inquirer article mo sa itaas:

Frame of reference
But before I take up the senator’s arguments in detail, it may be well to set our frame of reference by restating the position of the Philippine government on the North Borneo claim.
Thousands of years ago, what is now known as the Philippines and what is known today as Borneo used to constitute a single historical, cultural, economic unit. Authoritative Western scientists have traced the land bridges that connected these two places. The inhabitants of the Philippines and Borneo come from the same racial stock, they have the same color, they have or used to have similar customs and traditions. Borneo is only 18 miles away from us today.
North Borneo, formerly known as Sabah, was originally ruled by the sultan of Brunei. In 1704, in gratitude for help extended to him by the sultan of Sulu in suppressing a revolt, the sultan of Brunei ceded North Borneo to the Sulu sultan.
Here, our claim really begins. Over the years, the various European countries, including Britain, Spain and the Netherlands, acknowledged the sultan of Sulu as the sovereign ruler of North Borneo. They entered into various treaty arrangements with him.
In 1878, a keen Austrian adventurer, by the name of Baron de Overbeck, having known that the sultan of Sulu was facing a life-and-death struggle with the Spanish forces in the Sulu Archipelago, went to Sulu, took advantage of the situation and persuaded the sultan of Sulu to lease to him, in consideration of a yearly rental of Malayan $5,000 (roughly equivalent to a meager US$1,600), the territory now in question. The contract of lease—and I call it so on the basis of British documents and records that cannot be disputed here or abroad—contains a technical description of the territory in terms of natural boundaries, thus:
“… all the territories and lands being tributary to us on the mainland of the island of Borneo commencing from the Pandassan River on the NW coast and extending along the whole east coast as far as the Sibuco River in the south and comprising, among others, the states of Peitan, Sugut, Bangaya, Labuk, Sandakan, Kinabatangan, Muniang and all the other territories and states to the southward thereof bordering on Darvel Bay and as far as the Sibuco River with all the islands within three marine leagues of the coast.”
Contract to Dent
Overbeck later sold out all his rights under the contract to Alfred Dent, an English merchant, who established a provisional association and later a company, known as the British North Borneo Company, which assumed all the rights and obligations under the 1878 contract. This company was awarded a Royal Charter in 1881. A protest against the grant of the charter was lodged by the Spanish and the Dutch governments and in reply, the British government clarified its position and stated in unmistakable language that “sovereignty remains with the sultan of Sulu” and that the company was merely an administering authority.
In 1946, the British North Borneo Company transferred all its rights and obligations to the British Crown. The Crown, on July 10, 1946—just six days after Philippine independence—asserted full sovereign rights over North Borneo, as of that date. Shortly thereafter former American Governor General Francis Burton Harrison, then special adviser to the Philippine government on foreign affairs, denounced the cession order as a unilateral act in violation of legal rights. In 1950, Congressman Macapagal—along with Congressmen Arsenio Lacson and Arturo Tolentino—sponsored a resolution urging the formal institution of the claim to North Borneo. Prolonged studies were in the meanwhile undertaken and in 1962 the House of Representatives, in rare unanimity, passed a resolution urging the President of the Philippines to recover North Borneo consistent with international law and procedure. Acting on this unanimous resolution and having acquired all the rights and interests of the sultanate of Sulu, the Republic of the Philippines, through the President, filed the claim to North Borneo.
Basis of PH claim
Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in international law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide.

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[stickers]

Our Economy could have been better if only we had protected what is ours... Kalayaan group of islands, Panatag Shoal, and now Sabah..

[Monseratto]

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