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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    sigurado ganyan na lang gagawin ng depensa. like don sa napanood ko na interview last night nung isa sa mga lawyers (nalimutan ko name), kesyo mali or di daw totoo yung binigay na report ng amlc... nung tinanong siya nung reporter sino nagsabi or source nila ang sagot e, sa internet daw, parang may nakapag-blog, etc.. basta wala siyang maisagot na specific na site or name kung kanino nila nalaman... wtf!

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    May 15, 2012

    From abs-cbnnews.com:

    MANILA, Philippines (2nd UPDATE) - If the Anti-Money Laundering Council (AMLC) report on Chief Justice Renato Corona's dollar accounts and transactions is verified, then it's game over for him in his impeachment trial, analysts said late Monday.

    Reacting to the testimony of Ombudsman Conchita Carpio-Morales, Ateneo de Manila University (AdMU) School of Government Dean Tony La Vińa said that if it is proven that the AMLC report is true, then the chief justice is finished.

    "If the AMLC report is verified, I would think it is all over but the formalities. Of course, this can be dragged on by questioning authenticity of documents/transactions but is disservice to public if purpose is delaying inevitable," he said on social media network Twitter.

    ANC analyst and veteran journalist Teddy Locsin Jr. also believes that Morales' testimony, if proven correct, means the end for Corona.

    "It isn't even a bombshell but a careful reconstruction that seals CJ's coffin," he said on Twitter.

    "Corona must explain; he cannot, unless Morales lent herself to wholesale fraud, which I do not believe," he said. "I believe she (Morales) has done it already. I hope no one credits [the] prosecution."

    "Non-disclosure [is] perfectly legal and proper, it is the gigantic sum that is horrifying," he added.

    Locsin, a former Makati congressman, said that if Corona does not have an explanation for his multi-million dollar transactions, he should be removed from office.

    "If Corona [is] guilty even of [an] uncharged crime like this, he should be removed. Too much," he said.


    On Monday night, Corona issued a statement denying the figures mentioned by Morales. He said Morales should resign once proven wrong.

    However, he did not categorically deny the existence of the dollar accounts.

    'At least $10M in 82 dollar accounts'

    Carpio-Morales testified that Corona allegedly had at least $10 million in transactional balances in 82 US dollar accounts in 5 banks from 2003 to 2011.

    Gasps and stunned silence met the testimony of Morales, who has launched a fact-finding investigation into Corona's alleged dollar accounts.

    The Ombudsman said "significant deposits and withdrawals" on the dollar accounts were made during the 2004 and 2007 elections, as well as the week Corona was impeached in December last year.

    Morales said on December 12, 2011, the day he was impeached, Corona pre-terminated a US dollar time deposit account amounting to $418,193.32.

    "This amount was added to a BPI [Bank of Philippine Islands] account and from this, $417,000 was deducted from this account and transferred to a regular account," she said.

    COA helps Ombudsman analyze AMLC report

    She said she got her data from Anti-Money Laundering Council (AMLC) records, and analyzed it with the help of the Commission on Audit (COA).

    COA Commissioner Heidi Mendoza, a member of the COA team that analyzed the figures, briefly took the took the witness stand in the Senate impeachment trial Monday.

    She said there were more than 400 transactions under Corona's name.

    Mendoza said, based on transactions reported to the AMLC, dollar accounts in Corona's name had a total inflow of $28 million and total outflow of $30 million from April 2003 to December 2011.

    She said peso transactions involving Corona's bank accounts also reached P242 million.

    Corona only declared P3.5 million in cash in his 2010 SALN. Article 2 of the impeachment complaint accuses the Chief Justice of failing to declare and disclose all of his assets and his true net worth.

    Conspiracy to bring down CJ: defense

    In response, the defense dismissed Morales' testimony as "proof" of an alleged conspiracy among government agencies to bring down the chief justice.

    "May motibo talaga na sirain ang pangalan ni Chief Justice. May malinaw na motibo para siya ay tanggalin," said Atty. Rico Quicho.

    The defense also claimed that the Ombudsman's testimony was not damaging, and only muddled the issue further.

    Quicho admitted earlier in the day that they were caught flatfooted by Morales' revelations.

    Morales will continue her testimony on Tuesday.

    Checkmate after failed gambit?

    Political analyst and University of the Philippines professor Prospero de Vera last Saturday described the defense's decision to present Corona and Morales as witnesses in the impeachment trial as a gambit.

    He compared it to a chess match and said the defense's move is "make or break."

    Based on the reactions of people who watched the proceedings in the Senate on Monday, the defense's gambit may have failed.

    Prosecutors said Morales' testimony seriously damaged the case of the defense, with House lead prosecutor Rep. Niel Tupas saying the inflows and outflows in Corona's dollar accounts indicate "professional money laundering." -- with ANC

    Pati si Teddy Boy Locsin nagpapalit na rin ng mga sinasabi ngayon. Noong una, talagang kulang na lang siya ang mag-acquit kay CJ sa mga video blog niya sa ANC.

    Nasaan na ang "depensang bonggang-bongga"?
    Last edited by Altis6453; May 15th, 2012 at 03:30 PM.

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    ^ AFAIK, the AMLC report (which presumably contains the relevant information on these accounts of the CJ) will surface only if it is duly subpoenaed by the Impeachment Court. At this point, I doubt if Justice Cuevas or any of the members of the defense panel would do so since:

    1. It will entail entering the document into evidence;

    2. They'll have to scramble to disprove the contents of the AMLC report, or attack the credibility of the person who prepared it, if damaging to their client;

    3. They have to present the CJ, because he, and only he is privy to the nature of these deposits and the amounts that were deposited and disbursed thru those accounts --- which is tantamount to suicide once the prosecution gets to cross-examine him.

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    wala bang statement si cheap justice corona na, pag nahanap at totoo yan $10M. Inyo na.

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    Updates naman sa happenings inside the impeachment court.

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    Umeepal ata si Bongbong kung papaano nakuha ni Carpio-Morales ang AMLC report without a court order. Obviously, he doesn't read the waiver plainly printed in his own SALN which gives the Ombudsman the authority to look into records to verify if the contents of the SALN are true.

    Syempre, concerted effort daw to impeach the chief justice --- as if this is a valid legal defense.

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    nagtanong na pala si brenda kay conching. judge drilon now asking questions to carpio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    Umeepal ata si Bongbong kung papaano nakuha ni Carpio-Morales ang AMLC report without a court order. Obviously, he doesn't read the waiver plainly printed in his own SALN which gives the Ombudsman the authority to look into records to verify if the contents of the SALN are true.

    Syempre, concerted effort daw to impeach the chief justice --- as if this is a valid legal defense.
    kasama ba siya (bong2) sa "against" vote to present yung ppt. presentation ni morales?
    sa news footage, ang hindi nagtaas ng kamay si lolo joker (whether yes or against)
    no reaction form lolo, nakayuko lang.......

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    I now believed mirriam is afflicted with superiority complex, she just can't allow people to shine for lack of better word, she just really need to steal other's thunder,...

    Really it's getting annoying, parang ginagawa nanaman student niya Si ombudsman...she never went beyond RTC judge and yet the way she acts eh mas magaling pa siya sa former justice ng SC

    Be as it may na mas magaling siya but still she's talking to a former SC justice and a sitting ombudsman..a little respect naman from her, Kung Si JPE nga eh sobrang courtesy extend niya sa ombudsman eh

    Kailan ba aalis itong Si Brenda Sa pilipinas?
    Last edited by shadow; May 15th, 2012 at 06:41 PM.

  10. Join Date
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    yeah nakakainis na panoorin or subaybayan pag umepal na si miriam... magpick-up line na lang siya marami pa matutuwa sa kanya...

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    ganyan naman si brenda eh, siya lang magaling at matalino!
    Fasten your seatbelt! Or else... Driven To Thrill!

  12. Join Date
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    kaya nga siguro sarili nyang anak di siya kinaya...

    pero seriously, di na healthy yung mga ginagawa niya...

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    See the difference between the two, nabasa ko Sa dyaryo roommates daw sila before..one is loud and pikon while the other is cool and collected.

    Ice and fire!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    See the difference between the two, nabasa ko Sa dyaryo roommates daw sila before..one is loud and pikon while the other is cool and collected.

    Ice and fire!
    well, alam na kung sino ang loud and pikon...

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    simply put defense was caught with their pants down. they called on the ombudsman to show there was persecution by this administration against the CJ but they didn't expected that AMLC reports/documents...

    did I get it right bro altis? that's the only reason why I think they subpoena the ombudsman but I might be wrong though baka meron naman silang strategy...

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    ^ you got it, bro.

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    I was laughing myself silly when I read the papers this morning... the Defense really stepped in the poop this time...

    They're already having a hard time justifying the peso accounts (whatever source... not declared in the SALN)... now the dollar accounts are out for everyone to see... legitimately and despite the TRO.

    $12 million. That's about half-a-billion pesos? Easy peasy. We can explain, your honors...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    grabe.. nag dudugo ilong ko.. ahihihihi!

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    ^ Still waiting for the explanation from the CJ, more than 3/4 of the way into the impeachment proceedings.

    Funny, why does Corona take Conchita Carpio-Morales to task for doing her job? He could have simply replied to her letter and stated how and why she was wrong in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453
    ^ Still waiting for the explanation from the CJ, more than 3/4 of the way into the impeachment proceedings.

    Funny, why does Corona take Conchita Carpio-Morales to task for doing her job? He could have simply replied to her letter and stated how and why she was wrong in the first place.
    Nakakatawa mga spokeperson ng defense, bakit daw hinde sinabi Sa lettter Kay corona na galing Sa AMLC Yun nakuha ng ombudsman, eh sabi agad nila walsng jurisdiction ombudsman Kay corona eh, they didn't even ask for bill of particulars Kung Ano ba dapat explain niya, ayan tuloy sumabog Sa mukha nila Yun AMLC report

Impeachment against CJ Corona..