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View Poll Results: Senate's verdict on CJ

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    #401
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Bihasa na kasi si Justice Cuevas sa mga technicalities of presenting evidences. In an interview, Si Sen. Drilon said that he notices it and naiirita siya sa mga technicalities ng defense.
    Drilon should knock it off and "let the kids play basketball", as it were. He's a judge, not the prosecutor. That is, unless he intends to quit and just assist the prosecution. C'mon. These guys comprising the prosecution team aren't babies or newbies in the profession. It is lamentable that they act like it, though.

    I mean, simple things like laying the foundation, identification of documents, etc. is moot court 101 law school stuff.

    Sheesh. Buti na lang marking of documents is, I think, being done off-camera now. They'd be schooled no end by Justice Cuevas in admissibility of evidence and they'd look bad, if not worse.

    Mario Bautista (with due apologies to anyone here related to him in the forums), should be replaced immediately. Get Simeon Marcelo or Dennis Villa Ignacio on board the prosecution and you won't see the same fumbling around in the first three days of the impeachment trials.

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    #402
    Maiipit Si corona sa SALN niya Meron undervaluation diyan sigurado...yun Sa bellagio pa lang half the price Ang declared, prosecution should call on mega world or whoever's the developers, hinde mag match yun entry Sa book nila and Sa declaration ni corona...

    Feeling ko Lang ha...pwede gamitin ng prosecution yan...utasan Si pnoy na check na ng BIR megaworld...

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    #403
    PRESIDENTE LANG NAG BAGO.. same tactics pa din... nung panahon ni GMA ganyan din style ng house.. laging minamadali kaya hilaw.. wala na natuto sa kanila ngayon kay CJ Corona hilaw na naman sila... yung kay erap noon kasalanan ng mga kaalyado nya yun.. kung binuksan yung envelope eh hindi sana nag ka edsa 2.. tapos nung binuksan yung envelope eh wala naman pala matibay na nilalaman...

    having 10million pesos sa government now a days is not that possible... some government officials / executives work for the government for 30 years or more.. so talagang makakaipon ka.. sa government ka lang makakita ng employees na tumatagal up to 40 years hehehe almost half na ng buhay nila

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    #404
    nice article

    One of the reasons the prosecutors seem unprepared to prove their charges against the Chief Justice as spelled out in the eight Articles of Impeachment is that the members of the House ó at least those congressmen, 188 of them, were, apart from being bribed with the early release of their pork barrel and additional pork, reportedly were told not to worry about signing the complaint, even without reading the Articles of Impeachment because the congressmen were told that with all the humiliation that will be faced prior to the Senate trial, the CJ, like the resigned Ombudsman Merceditas Gutierrez, will be forced to resign and that there would be no trial.

    Unfortunately for both Noynoy and the House prosecutors, the CJ decided to face the music and has already said that he has reached the point of no return and is willing to undergo trial.

    But because the CJ has opted not to resign, the prosecutors are now unprepared to prove their case.

    This was evident last Tuesday, when the prosecutors were caught unprepared to prove their case, especially when they sought to change the numbering of the Articles of Impeachment, and when the court allowed the prosecutors to present their evidence, obviously they were not even prepared to present the evidence, since what they showed were not certified copies that have been sworn to, but computer-generated land documents, with no witnesses to swear that these are genuine documents.

    In yesterdayís hearing, it was also evident that not even the statement of assets and liabilities networth (SALn) of the CJ with which to prove their case, had to be squeezed out of the Supreme Courtís Clerk of Court, for the prosecutors to now compare the contents of his SALn, with what the prosecutors claim that he had illegally amassed wealth.

    In any case, the Clerk of Court was given the go signal to submit the SALn of the CJ as it was the CJ himself who gave the Clerk of Court permission to submit his SALn to the Senate impeachment court, which only shows that the CJ did not fear the disclosure of his SALn, but was merely following the rules of the high court, which is composed of 15 justices, and not just the CJís.

    The question now is whether the prosecution will again feast on this and spin the SALn contents for media purposes, as it already did in the case of its showing in the press conference, the so-called evidence of the alleged real estate properties the prosecution claims are the CJís and that with his salary as an associate justice and Chief Justice, the CJ canít afford, in which case, the way the prosecutors portrayed it even before the trial, was that the CJ is corrupt, which is unfair, since the prosecution certainly knows, even as the SALn of the CJ has been submitted and marked as evidence, it still will have to prove that which the prosecutors claim are properties they claim are assets of the CJ that he has not included in his SALn.

    Corona has always stated that he has nothing to hide, and has gone on public record that he only owns five properties, among them, the condo in a Mega World property.

    It will now bear upon on the prosecution to prove that its claimed properties that belong to the CJ. Whether the prosecution can prove this or not, will be found out later, as there is still that opportunity for the defense, to cross-examine the witnesses that will be presented by the prosecutors as well as that opportunity for the defense to disprove the allegations when its turn comes.

    What is certain is that the trial of the CJ wonít be finished in three months time.

    What is wished for, is that the senator-judges and the prosecutors, as well as the defense lawyers refrain themselves from grandstanding and merely abide by the rules of the Senate, for the trial to be orderly and fair.

    The Daily Tribune - Without Fear or Favor

    hindi ba.. no evidence , no case.. swerte tlaga nila.. andyan si Drilon


    And also

    hindi ba dapat mag inhibit si Angara as senator-judge? ung anak nya nasa prosecution eh

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    #405
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    PRESIDENTE LANG NAG BAGO.. same tactics pa din... nung panahon ni GMA ganyan din style ng house.. laging minamadali kaya hilaw.. wala na natuto sa kanila ngayon kay CJ Corona hilaw na naman sila... yung kay erap noon kasalanan ng mga kaalyado nya yun.. kung binuksan yung envelope eh hindi sana nag ka edsa 2.. tapos nung binuksan yung envelope eh wala naman pala matibay na nilalaman...

    having 10million pesos sa government now a days is not that possible... some government officials / executives work for the government for 30 years or more.. so talagang makakaipon ka.. sa government ka lang makakita ng employees na tumatagal up to 40 years hehehe almost half na ng buhay nila
    Walang Mali Sa ginawa ng mga senators dati, dahil hinde kasama. Yun 2nd envelope sa evidences...nag drama Lang sila joc joc at Si mga lover boy nani Perez na walkout

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    #406
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    PRESIDENTE LANG NAG BAGO.. same tactics pa din... nung panahon ni GMA ganyan din style ng house.. laging minamadali kaya hilaw.. wala na natuto sa kanila ngayon kay CJ Corona hilaw na naman sila... yung kay erap noon kasalanan ng mga kaalyado nya yun.. kung binuksan yung envelope eh hindi sana nag ka edsa 2.. tapos nung binuksan yung envelope eh wala naman pala matibay na nilalaman...

    having 10million pesos sa government now a days is not that possible... some government officials / executives work for the government for 30 years or more.. so talagang makakaipon ka.. sa government ka lang makakita ng employees na tumatagal up to 40 years hehehe almost half na ng buhay nila
    I suppose you're talking about an "honest" government employee who has no mouths to feed, no rent to pay, no dependents to send for schooling. Oh, and add to that, he or she probably belongs to Salary Grade IV or higher and serving more than twenty years in government. Otherwise, there's NO WAY IN HELL that these people get Php 10Million in what? Less than ten years of government service? Unless these employees you mentioned are part of the MWSS or any other GOCC which declares huge bonuses or doles out big allowances and perks, regardless of the financial performance of their companies.
    Last edited by Altis6453; January 19th, 2012 at 01:10 PM.

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    #407
    Hinde na issue ngayon yun pork barrel nasa senate na at Meron ng impeachment proceedings...paulit ulit na Lang yun pork barrel issue eh, come to think of it, eh Ano naman Kung ginait pork barrel, weather weather Lang...ganja din naman ginawa ng Ano ni corona dati eh...so quits na lang basic na Lang sila pag sla ulit naka
    Pwesto...

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    #408
    Quote Originally Posted by jansky View Post
    Abs-cbn ang source? hehe bias yan alam naman natin kung anong merong relasyon ang gobyerno at lopezes ngayon
    halatang halata ang abs cbn... lalong lalo na si ted failon....

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    #409


    in-love ako

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    #410
    Charice pengpengco Ang tingin kong Kamukha eh...

Impeachment against CJ Corona..