Digong, The President

[kartog]

i can't take the credit. i borrowed from the philippine urologic society. some of them have a windshield sticker...

that's a hoot

[Tha_Mann]

difficult to say anything, as i haven't seen/examined the body nor talked to the person.
diagnosis by just looking at him? sa hollywood lang po yan.

but at that age, "anything goes".
some of them, at that age, are still sprightly as a young stallion.
others, however, seem to have inherited all the ills in the textbook.

everybody knows, if one suddenly did something to his body that one is not used to doing, kinabukasan ay sasakit katawan mo.
pag natalisod o nadapa ka, kinabukasan ay masakit somewhere sa katawan.

thanks doc.

[Ry_Tower]

ang tsikot demographic educated middle class... in short may pagka-elitista

alam mo naman ang mga elitista gusto nila ng kapwa elitista (mga tipong tisoy haciendero atenista konyotic pa-english english refined pino ang kilos at salita)

ayaw nila sa mga promdi may bisaya accent na magaspang ang kilos at salita at palamura

doon palang alam mo na bakit ayaw ng tsikot kay du30

hehe

^ I beg to disagree. Si cathy lang yang tinutukoy mo eh.

Most of those who don't like PDuts here is because of what he stands for and his style of governance. Campaign period pa lang yan na usapan. Lumabas din naman totoo. It has nothing to do with being Bisaya.

And yes, character is very important and somehow that also makes him a turn-off but it is not the main reason. Sa post mo parang yan pa main argument against him which is totally false. Masaya ka ba na nagmumura siya in front of people and makes fun of the women and insults them always? There is a way to be pro-masa without being an ass. Nagmumura okay pa, but insulting and demeaning women? Ibang level na din yan. Hindi na kelangan maging santo or relihiyoso para lang masabi na mali talaga siya umasta. For his level that is unacceptable.

I see what you did there, pro "states"....because you're an MD haha


oh, so most guys here hate Digong slash the admin ? why ?


is it because they

-preferred another candidate

-are just nitpicking (well, must admit it's fun)

-are disappointed with how Duterte performed vis-a-vis his campaign promises

-have some other reasons

?

It's not just the campaign promises that did not materialize. Most of those who don't like PDuts already saw that his promises are BS. Kita naman sa performance niya diba at sa nangyayari sa Pinas. Investors are shunning away from us. Our economic standing gets downgraded.

They are more "gimmick" statements rather than concrete and well-planned platform of governance. Kaya nga na-imbento term na "naduterte" ang mga voters eh.

[Devastator]

^ I beg to disagree. Si cathy lang yang tinutukoy mo eh.

Most of those who don't like PDuts here is because of what he stands for and his style of governance. Campaign period pa lang yan na usapan. Lumabas din naman totoo. It has nothing to do with being Bisaya.

And yes, character is very important and somehow that also makes him a turn-off but it is not the main reason. Sa post mo parang yan pa main argument against him which is totally false. Masaya ka ba na nagmumura siya in front of people and makes fun of the women and insults them always? There is a way to be pro-masa without being an ass. Nagmumura okay pa, but insulting and demeaning women? Ibang level na din yan. Hindi na kelangan maging santo or relihiyoso para lang masabi na mali talaga siya umasta. For his level that is unacceptable.



It's not just the campaign promises that did not materialize. Most of those who don't like PDuts already saw that his promises are BS. Kita naman sa performance niya diba at sa nangyayari sa Pinas. Investors are shunning away from us. Our economic standing gets downgraded.

They are more "gimmick" statements rather than concrete and well-planned platform of governance. Kaya nga na-imbento term na "naduterte" ang mga voters eh.

Sa madaling salita, most people here can see through his b.s. Kung ayaw niyang mapuna eh pwes umayos siya at alisin na niya yung mayor mindset niya kasi hindi na siya mayor na iilan lang ang kinakatawan niya, he now represents the millions of Filipinos here and abroad.

[kartog]

^ I beg to disagree. Si cathy lang yang tinutukoy mo eh.

Most of those who don't like PDuts here is because of what he stands for and his style of governance. Campaign period pa lang yan na usapan. Lumabas din naman totoo. It has nothing to do with being Bisaya. And yes, character is very important and somehow that also makes him a turn-off. Masaya ka ba na nagmumura siya in front of people and makes fun of the women and insults them always? There is a way to be pro-masa without being an ass. Nagmumura okay pa, but insulting and demeaning women. Ibang level na din yan. Hindi na kelangan maging santo or relihiyoso para lang masabi na mali talaga siya umasta. For his level that is unacceptable.



It's not just the campaign promises that did not materialize. Most of those who don't like PDuts already saw that his promises are BS. Kita naman sa performance niya diba at sa nangyayari sa Pinas. Investors are shunning away from us. Our economic standing gets downgraded.

They are more "gimmick" statements rather than concrete and well-planned platform of governance. Kaya nga na-imbento term na "naduterte" ang mga voters eh.

Thanks for the meaty reply.

You mentioned something about Duterte showing his true self from the start of the campaign period. Apparently what he stands for and his style of governance is unacceptable, well to you at least ?

Yet he won. In national elections of roughly 50M registered voters. What does that tell us ?

His approval ratings are still unimaginably high for a president already halfway thru his term. In short, this is no longer the honeymoon period. Normally I am skeptical of these surveys, but this time these results coincide with my own personal experience in the streets chatting to everyday people. What does that tell us ?

More importantly, what does that tell you ?

I'm sorry but I don't get what you're saying about investors running away from us. Inflation figures are okay, last time I checked.


You would also have to be a little more specific about what you see lacking in Duterte's performance and what is happening in the Philippines (apparently, bad ? ).

And the term "naduterte" was invented by who exactly ?

[Ketib]

well...
prostates (pro-administration) get lynched here, it would seem.
my observation. not my policy.
heh heh heh.

ikaw ba naman pagtulongan ng mga "pino" rito. hehehe!
Gusto ko prostates doc. Sana bumalik na sila rito. Isa ako sa mga naiwan?Tapos, mahina pa sa argumento. hahay!

[kartog]

Sa madaling salita, most people here can see through his b.s. Kung ayaw niyang mapuna eh pwes umayos siya at alisin na niya yung mayor mindset niya kasi hindi na siya mayor na iilan lang ang kinakatawan niya, he now represents the millions of Filipinos here and abroad.

Yes he does represent every Filipino, and according to the most recent survey 78% actually approve of his governance.

Not that I fully trust these surveys, but still.

[Ry_Tower]

Thanks for the meaty reply.

You mentioned something about Duterte showing his true self from the start of the campaign period. Apparently what he stands for and his style of governance is unacceptable, well to you at least ?

Yet he won. In national elections of roughly 50M registered voters. What does that tell us ?

His approval ratings are still unimaginably high for a president already halfway thru his term. In short, this is no longer the honeymoon period. Normally I am skeptical of these surveys, but this time these results coincide with my own personal experience in the streets chatting to everyday people. What does that tell us ?

More importantly, what does that tell you ?

I'm sorry but I don't get what you're saying about investors running away from us. Inflation figures are okay, last time I checked.


You would also have to be a little more specific about what you see lacking in Duterte's performance and what is happening in the Philippines (apparently, bad ? ).

And the term "naduterte" was invented by who exactly ?

Re winning and keeping his popularity, those who voted for him obviously are still loyal. This are the same people who voted for BBM (and almost won), voted back to senate Bong Revilla, voted for Bato, Bong Go (dakilang alalay) etc. In short, their way of making choices is not that credible if you look at our voting history.

Re what is happening in our economy and investors/credit rating, you seem to be not reading much unto the news. I would not educate you on that because it is better if you do your own research para masabi mo sa sarili mo if the economically we are doing okay. The credit downgrades and low investors funds are all over the news. Search ka na lang since may time ka naman magpost dito so may time ka din mag-internet.

Re "naduterte" its a term I have come across with in my readings. Its the journalist who have coined the term. Taga-saan ka ba? Hindi mo alam term na yan? It's even in the urban dictionary.
Urban Dictionary: Duterte

[kartog]

Re winning and keeping his popularity, those who voted for him obviously are still loyal. This are the same people who voted for BBM (and almost won), voted back to senate Bong Revilla, voted for Bato, Bong Go (dakilang alalay) etc. In short, their way of making choices is not that credible if you look at our voting history.

Re what is happening in our economy and investors/credit rating, you seem to be not reading much unto the news. I would not educate you on that because it is better if you do your own research para masabi mo sa sarili mo if the economically we are doing okay. The credit downgrades and low investors funds are all over the news. Search ka na lang since may time ka naman magpost dito so may time ka din mag-internet.

Re "naduterte" its a term I have come across with in my readings. Its the journalist who have coined the term. Taga-saan ka ba? Hindi mo alam term na yan? It's even in the urban dictionary.
Urban Dictionary: Duterte

Actually, I have been reading the news. Last time I checked the Philippines has above-minimum investment grade credit ratings from S&P and Fitch with stable outlook, and I quote-

"S&P forecasts annual gross domestic product (GDP) growth at 6.3% this year, keeping the Philippines as one of the fastest-growing economies in the region. It also sees the economy expanding by 6.5% in 2020, 6.6% in 2021, and 6.7% in 2022, reflecting its view of sustained growth on the back of private consumption and investment growth."S&P upgrades Philippine debt rating

Add the low inflation rates of the last few months, and I'm actually finding it hard to see what you're seeing in the economy that's bad.


So, the people who voted for Duterte fall into the "not credible" in terms of voting history, is that it ?

What about those who voted for, say, PNoy ? Are they "more credible" voters ?

Is there some hidden, secret criteria for "credibility" in terms of voting ?


Again, actually I'm familiar with the term "naduterte". I was just making a point about how it came about and who were the type of people who actually coined it. If there are de-de-es social media bloggers, there certainly are paid "Delawan" hacks as well. And if you have strong political inclinations one way or the other, you owe it to yourself to know and realize propaganda tools whenever you come across them. You may still feel the same way about your political leanings, but at least you know you did not fall for cheap political gimmicks, right ? And this actually goes both ways, not just for
pro-Duterte, or for Delawan media blitzes.

[Ry_Tower]

Actually, I have been reading the news. Last time I checked the Philippines has above-minimum investment grade credit ratings from S&P and Fitch with stable outlook, and I quote-

"S&P forecasts annual gross domestic product (GDP) growth at 6.3% this year, keeping the Philippines as one of the fastest-growing economies in the region. It also sees the economy expanding by 6.5% in 2020, 6.6% in 2021, and 6.7% in 2022, reflecting its view of sustained growth on the back of private consumption and investment growth."S&P upgrades Philippine debt rating

Add the low inflation rates of the last few months, and I'm actually finding it hard to see what you're seeing in the economy that's bad.


So, the people who voted for Duterte fall into the "not credible" in terms of voting history, is that it ?

What about those who voted for, say, PNoy ? Are they "more credible" voters ?

Is there some hidden, secret criteria for "credibility" in terms of voting ?


Again, actually I'm familiar with the term "naduterte". I was just making a point about how it came about and who were the type of people who actually coined it. If there are de-de-es social media bloggers, there certainly are paid "Delawan" hacks as well. And if you have strong political inclinations one way or the other, you owe it to yourself to know and realize propaganda tools whenever you come across them. You may still feel the same way about your political leanings, but at least you know you did not fall for cheap political gimmicks, right ? And this actually goes both ways, not just for
pro-Duterte, or for Delawan media blitzes.

I am in sales and marketing industry. The past 2 years have been bad in terms of sales growth compared to the previous 4-6 years. That is data that is not reflected in the news but is actually what's happening in the ground.

Check the FDI data, we are declining compared to previous years. That shows the real sentiment of investors regarding our economy.

Re voters I mean it in general. Yes these are the same people who voted for PNoy because of his popularity and not because of his accomplishments. But genereally speaking the country's voting history does not bode well. It is still a popularity contest rather than performance based in the most basic sense.

And I am not delawan. What I stand for is better governance whomever it is in the position. Just like any frer man I wanted to point out as well that we deserve better. And I do believe that Mar would have been better for the country rather than PDuts. That is my stand even before this delawan term was used and no I don't fall for marketing gimmicks as again I am in sales and marketing.

I based my choices re our leaders based on past performance and sad to say, choosing the lesser evil as I do know that all candidates will have some sort of baggage or favors that needs repaying.

Again at the end of the day I guess all we want is better governance and definitely lesser corruption. Sadly, I don't see that with this administration. The final nail in the coffin is this admins treatment of the WPS problem. That is very unpatriotic.

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[uls]

wala po ako sinabi atenistang konyong tisoy lahat ng taga tsikot

ang ibig ko sabihin preference ng mga elitista ang kapwa elitista

mag gusto niyo mukhang james deakin ang presidente kesa mukhang native

di bale corrupt disente naman itsura haha

[Ry_Tower]

wala po ako sinabi atenistang konyong tisoy lahat ng taga tsikot

ang ibig ko sabihin preference ng mga elitista ang kapwa elitista

mag gusto niyo mukhang james deakin ang presidente kesa mukhang native

di bale corrupt disente naman itsura haha

Yeah right. Assuming too much and oversimplifying things. Classic.

[shadow]

Tyaga mo ry, unang post pa lang alam mo na eh. Nag explain ka pa.

Ulol mga yan. Doon na lang sila sa FB magbolahan. [emoji23]




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[kisshmet]

Tyaga mo ry, unang post pa lang alam mo na eh. Nag explain ka pa.

Ulol mga yan. Doon na lang sila sa FB magbolahan. [emoji23]




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Ulol ba talaga

Simple lang paliwanag ni uls kapag mahina ang economy..kasi humina ang economy ng number one economy ng master red-china

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[c_cube]

Hindi naman ako eletista kaya ayaw ko kay PDuts.

Di lang talaga maganda pamamalakad niya para sa akin.

Gave him a benefit of the doubt 3 yrs ago coz he won, but apparently, he fall short on all his campaign promises, daming BS na sinabi eh.


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[Ry_Tower]

Tyaga mo ry, unang post pa lang alam mo na eh. Nag explain ka pa.

Ulol mga yan. Doon na lang sila sa FB magbolahan. [emoji23]




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Oo nga eh. In 3 years time if hindi pa din convinced na hindi ok pamamalakad ni Pduts eh hopeless na nga.

Hindi na mababago pag-iisip niyan.

Di bale dami na din naman posts dito. Back read na lang siya if he wants further info re the sentiments of most tsikot members.

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[BlancNoir]

Thanks for the meaty reply.

You mentioned something about Duterte showing his true self from the start of the campaign period. Apparently what he stands for and his style of governance is unacceptable, well to you at least ?

Yet he won. In national elections of roughly 50M registered voters. What does that tell us ?

His approval ratings are still unimaginably high for a president already halfway thru his term. In short, this is no longer the honeymoon period. Normally I am skeptical of these surveys, but this time these results coincide with my own personal experience in the streets chatting to everyday people. What does that tell us ?

More importantly, what does that tell you ?

I'm sorry but I don't get what you're saying about investors running away from us. Inflation figures are okay, last time I checked.


You would also have to be a little more specific about what you see lacking in Duterte's performance and what is happening in the Philippines (apparently, bad ? ).

And the term "naduterte" was invented by who exactly ?

Eeeeew, DDS.

[kartog]

I am in sales and marketing industry. The past 2 years have been bad in terms of sales growth compared to the previous 4-6 years. That is data that is not reflected in the news but is actually what's happening in the ground.

Check the FDI data, we are declining compared to previous years. That shows the real sentiment of investors regarding our economy.

Re voters I mean it in general. Yes these are the same people who voted for PNoy because of his popularity and not because of his accomplishments. But genereally speaking the country's voting history does not bode well. It is still a popularity contest rather than performance based in the most basic sense.

And I am not delawan. What I stand for is better governance whomever it is in the position. Just like any frer man I wanted to point out as well that we deserve better. And I do believe that Mar would have been better for the country rather than PDuts. That is my stand even before this delawan term was used and no I don't fall for marketing gimmicks as again I am in sales and marketing.

I based my choices re our leaders based on past performance and sad to say, choosing the lesser evil as I do know that all candidates will have some sort of baggage or favors that needs repaying.

Again at the end of the day I guess all we want is better governance and definitely lesser corruption. Sadly, I don't see that with this administration. The final nail in the coffin is this admins treatment of the WPS problem. That is very unpatriotic.

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I'm sorry, but this graph does not support what you said and I quote "Check the FDI data, we are declining compared to previous years."



Net Foreign Direct Investments in the past two years have in fact been higher than the previous three years 2014-2016.

It did drop this year though. But only this year. So the conclusion that investors are shying away BECAUSE of the Duterte admin doesn't really hold water. If it was indeed the reason the investors would have stayed away the moment Duterte assumed office, when the full anti-Duterte media blitz both national and international was at full embarassing throttle. Besides, one can actually just as well probably reference the ongoing US-China trade war as having an influence on our current DFI figures.



About the voters, I don't really think we can be selective in judging the political decisions of the populace. One cannnot condemn the Filipinos' decision to vote into office certain personalities just because one doesn't particularly like them, and then sing praises to the same voting population when they vote someone agreeable to one's tastes.

It doesn't work that way.



I agree on the ideals of better governance. But I for one do not think in a vacuum. It's harder to be manipulated by spin doctors when you're a realist.

[kartog]

Eeeeew, DDS.

What, eherm, exactly is a "DDS" ?

Duterte Die Hard Supporter, is that it ?


What makes you resort to er, labeling me that way ? Because I don't share your opinions about local politics ?

So, in the local social media paradigm, would you be considered a member of the counterpart to DDS, the dreaded Delawan ?

[BlancNoir]

What, eherm, exactly is a "DDS" ?

Duterte Die Hard Supporter, is that it ?


What makes you resort to er, labeling me that way ? Because I don't share your opinions about local politics ?

So, in the local social media paradigm, would you be considered a member of the counterpart to DDS, the dreaded Delawan ?

I am neither a DDS nor a "delawan".

I am pro Philippines. For the greater good ako. I always try to see things objectively.

It just so happen that the candidate you support is full of sh*t and anyone who does not support the current admin is automatically labeled a "delawan".