Digong, The President

[Yatta]

I'm wondering why Digong was too quiet about the whole Customs affair, given his vicious anti-drug rhetoric.

Tardy Duterte misses Asean Plus Three Summit photo session | Global News

"Palace spokesperson Salvador Panelo assured the President is “okay,” and was “late” because he passed by the restroom."

That was a long leak.


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[usong725]

Well, that is a solid Liberal Party vote if there ever was one, Roxas-Robredo. Thank you for being candid enough to admit that.

I myself was totally undecided until the last week before election day.

It would seem ironic now, but I was actually choosing between Roxas and Duterte, but leaning towards Roxas being that--one, he was "endorsed" by the outgoing administration and I was a big fan of continuity and stability at the time; and two, there did not seem to be a better alternative.

What swayed me to the opposite direction was Trillanes' theatrical exposés. His bank account revelations up until the last day of campaigning made me think hard about his true intentions. If he really had these "aces" up his sleeves he should have revealed them much earlier, not on virtually the eve of elections when it amounted to no more than mudslinging. It made me think hard why so much effort was being made by these people just to make sure Duterte does not get to within sniffing distance of Malacañan.

Events leading up to Duterte's assumption of office, after poll results were already known--further convinced me I made the best choice among all the candidates. I mean, Duterte had yet to take office and yet the established media entities were already working in overdrive demolishing his image.

As for branding or PR, as I have said--it goes both ways. For every Mocha, there's a Jover/PAB. I think it is important for anyone to realize this, it does not matter which side of the fence he or she is on.

I don't really think the citizenry, the people are divided. There's an overwhelming majority who support the government. And there's a few who do not. It is not even remotely fair to mention the word "divided" to describe this.

Again, I already said what I think of surveys, but yeah that's what the surveys are saying now.

kawawang Roxas. Hindi binoto ng tao hindi dahil sa hindi qualified kundi dahil sa ginawa ng ibang tao na wala naman kinalaman sa kanya

Re Trillanes' revelation, hindi daw totoo na may BPI account si tatay digong. Pero last minute umamin din si tatay. Hanggang ngayon hindi parin pinipirmahan yung waiver

hiramin ko lang isa sa mga classic lines ng mga DDS - kung wala tinatago, bakit hindi pirmahan?

[kartog]

I'm wondering why Digong was too quiet about the whole Customs affair, given his vicious anti-drug rhetoric.

Tardy Duterte misses Asean Plus Three Summit photo session | Global News

"Palace spokesperson Salvador Panelo assured the President is “okay,” and was “late” because he passed by the restroom."

That was a long leak.


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He actually issued statements and replaced his own appointed Customs chiefs when alleged meth shipments managed to go through Customs. It's in the news, both Lapeña and Faeldon. Are you trying to insinuate Duterte is himself the smuggler of those drugs ?


And I thought de-de-es are supposedly the gullible ones

[kartog]

kawawang Roxas. Hindi binoto ng tao hindi dahil sa hindi qualified kundi dahil sa ginawa ng ibang tao na wala naman kinalaman sa kanya

Re Trillanes' revelation, hindi daw totoo na may BPI account si tatay digong. Pero last minute umamin din si tatay. Hanggang ngayon hindi parin pinipirmahan yung waiver

hiramin ko lang isa sa mga classic lines ng mga DDS - kung wala tinatago, bakit hindi pirmahan?

If you are referring to my own choice, I said I was torn between Roxas and Duterte. Implication being all things already considered, and the Trillanes part was what made me think hard. Of course the Roxas camp will deny any connection to the mudslinging by Trillanes--but surveys of course indicated he would most likely benefit being the second top vote-getter should Duterte fall off the lead, thus having the biggest motivation among the other candidates to be behind Trillanes' accusations.

If I remember as well, Trillanes' bank statements were denied by the AMLAC itself to have come from them. As for waivers, why indeed would a sitting president willingly give ammunition to political opponents

[Yatta]

He actually issued statements and replaced his own appointed Customs chiefs when alleged meth shipments managed to go through Customs. It's in the news, both Lapeña and Faeldon. Are you trying to insinuate Duterte is himself the smuggler of those drugs ?


And I thought de-de-es are supposedly the gullible ones

Lapena and Faeldon? In case you haven't read both were just moved over, promoted even. The latter f*cking up again, and now lying low waiting for another opportunity to f*ck up.

[dreamur]

He actually issued statements and replaced his own appointed Customs chiefs when alleged meth shipments managed to go through Customs. It's in the news, both Lapeña and Faeldon. Are you trying to insinuate Duterte is himself the smuggler of those drugs ?


And I thought de-de-es are supposedly the gullible ones

And recycled Lapena to TESDA and Faeldon to BUCOR? Is that the right way to "punish" those who were not able to detect those huge shipments of meth? You seem to be a logical person so you should be able to see through the smoke and mirrors. As for Polong, are those photos showing him with the alleged drug lords do not mean a thing?

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[kartog]

Lapena and Faeldon? In case you haven't read both were just moved over, promoted even. The latter f*cking up again, and now lying low waiting for another opportunity to f*ck up.

What exactly did you misunderstand in my post when I said those two were replaced ? Weren't they replaced as Customs chiefs or not ?

[usong725]

If you are referring to my own choice, I said I was torn between Roxas and Duterte. Implication being all things already considered, and the Trillanes part was what made me think hard. Of course the Roxas camp will deny any connection to the mudslinging by Trillanes--but surveys of course indicated he would most likely benefit being the second top vote-getter should Duterte fall off the lead, thus having the biggest motivation among the other candidates to be behind Trillanes' accusations.

If I remember as well, Trillanes' bank statements were denied by the AMLAC itself to have come from them. As for waivers, why indeed would a sitting president willingly give ammunition to political opponents

mmm...so you've just assumed na yung Roxas camp yung gumawa dahil sila mag benefit if ever bumagsak popularity ni tatay digong? Will play devil's advocate. What if sa camp pala ni tatay gumawa nun talaga para ma sway nya opinion ng tao against Roxas? You know, mahilig pumanig mga pinoy sa "biktima" / under dog. Di ba magaling sa diversionary tactics si tatay?

Re BPI accounts, denied by AMLAC na galing sa kanila yung info. Pero hindi maitanggi ang existence nito. Padeny deny pa nuong una then later on aminin na meron naman pala talaga existing nuong buking na.

[geronimof]

Lapena and Faeldon? In case you haven't read both were just moved over, promoted even. The latter f*cking up again, and now lying low waiting for another opportunity to f*ck up.

Faeldon? hina nyo naman. nilalagay lang si faeldon sa mga corrupt agencies para magumpisa ng usok at umapoy. di na tayo magugulat kung next na pwesto nya lto, bir etc etc

[kartog]

And recycled Lapena to TESDA and Faeldon to BUCOR? Is that the right way to "punish" those who were not able to detect those huge shipments of meth? You seem to be a logical person so you should be able to see through the smoke and mirrors. As for Polong, are those photos showing him with the alleged drug lords do not mean a thing?

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Of course they should be blamed for letting those shipments go through, in the name of command responsibility. Do you think they are criminally liable ?

[kartog]

mmm...so you've just assumed na yung Roxas camp yung gumawa dahil sila mag benefit if ever bumagsak popularity ni tatay digong? Will play devil's advocate. What if sa camp pala ni tatay gumawa nun talaga para ma sway nya opinion ng tao against Roxas? You know, mahilig pumanig mga pinoy sa "biktima" / under dog. Di ba magaling sa diversionary tactics si tatay?

Re BPI accounts, denied by AMLAC na galing sa kanila yung info. Pero hindi maitanggi ang existence nito. Padeny deny pa nuong una then later on aminin na meron naman pala talaga existing nuong buking na.

You know, considering how each and every one of Trillanes "exposés" managed to fall flat on its face, you just may be on to something--Trillanes may have indeed been a "double agent" for Duterte hahaha !

About that BPI account, is it illegal to have one ? Whatever happened to the Ombudsman investigation ? Nothing ? So Duterte probably just started that rumor as well ?

[dreamur]

Of course they should be blamed for letting those shipments go through, in the name of command responsibility. Do you think they are criminally liable ?

I am not a lawyer so I cannot comment on that. One thing I can say though, including those photos linking the dutertes with high profile drug personalities, is that perception is reality. Being the leader of this country, he should be the role model. If you have children, would you like them to emulate your president?

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[usong725]

Trillanes may have indeed been a "double agent" for Duterte hahaha !

your guess is as good as mine

[Egan101]

Isang baldeng popcorn kelangan ko dito para i-monitor ang thread na ito.

[dreamur]

Isang baldeng popcorn kelangan ko dito para i-monitor ang thread na ito.

Dagdagan mo pa ng isang bucket na red horse!

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[kartog]

I am not a lawyer so I cannot comment on that. One thing I can say though, including those photos linking the dutertes with high profile drug personalities, is that perception is reality. Being the leader of this country, he should be the role model. If you have children, would you like them to emulate your president?

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You mean similar photos of de Lima with convicted drug lords like Colanggo himself, photos which were brushed aside by those whose political views coincide with hers ? People who claimed it meant nothing for de Lima, yet the same circumstances should now indicate fool-proof guilt for Duterte ?

So you want the president to be the role model of your children ? And that is why, a foul-mouthed Duterte should not be in Malacañan, is that your view ? Then nothing he will ever do, will make him right in your eyes. Absolutely nothing. All that we have been discussing, is all for naught.

If that is how you felt, then the moment he won the elections you should have made representations with your local congressman together with people of similar persuasion, and initiated legislation that would have exactly prohibited someone like Duterte from getting within sniffing distance of Malacañan, if not prevent him exactly then in the future someone like him.

[dreamur]

You mean similar photos of de Lima with convicted drug lords like Colanggo himself, photos which were brushed aside by those whose political views coincide with hers ? People who claimed it meant nothing for de Lima, yet the same circumstances should now indicate fool-proof guilt for Duterte ?

So you want the president to be the role model of your children ? And that is why, a foul-mouthed Duterte should not be in Malacañan, is that your view ? Then nothing he will ever do, will make him right in your eyes. Absolutely nothing. All that we have been discussing, is all for naught.

If that is how you felt, then the moment he won the elections you should have made representations with your local congressman together with people of similar persuasion, and initiated legislation that would have exactly prohibited someone like Duterte from getting within sniffing distance of Malacañan, if not prevent him exactly then in the future someone like him.

I am not defending delima or trillanes here because this thread is about digong. Youve been dropping names and using other opposition personalities to justify your convictions. And yes, for a leader, decency is just as important as intelligence, be it in politics or otherwise. I presume you are a corporate employee so tell me, are you a leader?

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[kartog]

I am not defending delima or trillanes here because this thread is about digong. Youve been dropping names and using other opposition personalities to justify your convictions. And yes, for a leader, decency is just as important as intelligence, be it in politics or otherwise. I presume you are a corporate employee so tell me, are you a leader?

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I regret if you got the impression that I was dropping names. What I was doing was merely trying to remind people that standards should be the same for any situation, and not change depending on any particular agenda. So if those who favor de Lima do not think pictures with convicted drug lords implicate her, the same reasoning should also apply to somebody else even if that somebody else happen to be on the opposite side of the political fence.

Am I correct in assuming you are trying to point out what you think are qualities of an effective leader ? And that "decency" ranks high in your list ? Am I also correct in thinking that you want to impose your own criteria on other people, on something that is not only personal but more importantly political as well ?

Also, are you actually giving much more importance to "decency" (your own words) over I don't know, much more trivial stuff like political will, character, serving the true majority, or actual ability to run a nation ?

Because anybody can pretend to be decent, it does not actually take much to wear a suit and tie everyday, speak in flawless American-accented English, talk only of politically-correct topics, promise the world to those who could not wait to be lied to........these are all easily done thru the help of PR consultants, teleprompters and political strategists. The deeper, more important stuff however, are more difficult to have.

[Yatta]

Because anybody can pretend to be decent, it does not actually take much to wear a suit and tie everyday, speak in flawless American-accented English, talk only of politically-correct topics, promise the world to those who could not wait to be lied to........these are all easily done thru the help of PR consultants, teleprompters and political strategists. The deeper, more important stuff however, are more difficult to have.

Have to agree with that. Just look at Panelo.

[BlancNoir]

Pantanggal boredom sa office and pampalipas oras tong thread na to ah.



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