Digong, The President

[WallyWest]

Bakit puro mga babae siya matapang? Hinde naman maka porma kay trillanes?


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Bayot siguro.

[Devastator]

I think the CBCP should't waste time talking to him. Pasok sa isang dulo, labas sa kabila yung nangyayari.

In 24 hours, Duterte breaks vow to stop hitting the Church

[WallyWest]

I think the CBCP should't waste time talking to him. Pasok sa isang dulo, labas sa kabila yung nangyayari.

In 24 hours, Duterte breaks vow to stop hitting the Church

Ipagdasal na lang nila... na kunin na ni lord.

[Wh1stl3r]

I'll just leave this here...

SWS: Duterte's satisfaction rating plunges, down across all areas | Philstar.com

[Ry_Tower]

I'll just leave this here...

SWS: Duterte's satisfaction rating plunges, down across all areas | Philstar.com

Do not. Push it harder down. Hehehe

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[baludoy]

full swing na ang non-campaign campaign ni bong go

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[KingoftheNorth]

A good read:

Undemocratic condescension
Philippine Daily Inquirer / 05:30 AM July 11, 2018

Last March, Social Weather Stations found that only 25 percent of voting-age Filipinos classified themselves as aware of what a federal system of government was. The same survey found that only 37 percent said they agree (sumasang-ayon) with a federal system—presumably as the new form of government for the Philippines. (The survey questions are vague on this point.) The survey findings show that a large majority of voting-age Filipinos (75 percent) do not know what federalism is, and that almost two-thirds either disagree with the federal system or are undecided about it.

The implication is clear: There is no clamor for a shift to federalism; there is no groundswell of support for a change in the Constitution to allow the shift to a federal system of government. On the other hand, the Duterte administration is intent on effecting the change, and hence the shift.

This is the context in which the members of the consultative committee appointed by President Duterte convened to draft a proposed federal constitution last February; it is the same context in which they presented the completed draft this week. They have, to put it mildly, their work cut out for them. The need to explain the proposed new charter, and the benefits as well as the costs of adopting the federal system of government, is part of the burden the members share.

At least one member of the committee, however, does not seem to see the need to engage the 75 percent who are not aware of what federalism is, or the 29 percent who disagree with or the 34 percent who are uncertain about the proposed federal system of government.

On Facebook, Fr. Ranhilio Aquino, a legal scholar but not a lawyer, laid down the law. “If you oppose federalism, the presupposition is that you have studied it, and your studies show you that it is not good for the country. To which I must now retort: Really, now? Have you studied it? Upon being named to the committee, I started studying it and that meant NOT JUST reading constitutions, but reading constitutional law treatises of Germany, Canada, Malaysia (2 volumes) and South Africa (12 volumes). I also studied the constitutional law of Spain because of its Autonomous Communities and of Italy because its regions enjoy a wide latitude of self-governance… Now, when you oppose federalism tell me what studies you did that I did not do, or studies that the likes of Reynato Puno, Antonio Nachura, Virgilio Bautista, Rodolfo Robles, Aquilino Pimentel, Edmund Tayao or Julio Teehankee did not do.”

Pardon the extended excerpt, but the defensive, brittle condescension of this unchristian priest, this undemocratic nonlawyer, must be put on the record.

In the first place, there is no lack of experts from federal systems, not merely those who studied the treatises but those who actually lived in federal regimes, who have warned that minimum conditions must be met before attempting a shift to federalism. In other words, there is no guarantee that just because Aquino read all those books, he has the best interests of the Philippines in mind.

Secondly, the fundamental principle of democracy remains the same: one person, one vote. Aquino’s alleged learning does not invalidate the opinion, and thus the vote, of an ordinary citizen who does not understand why, if the shift to federalism is so important, it must be rushed; or why, if federalism supposedly solves poverty, learned men like Aquino cannot offer proof, only insult.

If Aquino thinks the answer to a debate is to look down on the lack of learning of those unlucky enough not to be him, he is not genuinely seeking a shift from presidential to federal, but from democratic to aristocratic.

Thirdly, political circumstances are a determining factor in the success or failure of any shift to federalism. Already, we have seen that the Duterte administration is engaging in propaganda to make the federalism project a little more acceptable. The other day, PTV4 ran a false story alleging that 6,000 Albayanos in Legazpi City had pledged support for the proposed shift after a two-day consultation with the committee. But participants themselves said there was no such signing and pledging of support.

This Marcosian tactic of fabricating public approval is a potent counterargument to the federalism project, because the weight of history is heavier than all the books that Aquino belatedly studied. If the proposed federal constitution, presumably enriched by Aquino’s scholarship, is good in itself, why is the government lying about support for it?

This is mostly what I think from hearing Fr. Ranhilio Aquino being interviewed by radio hosts. Condescension. Intellectual arrogance at its worst.

[kisshmet]

^favorite legal luminary yan ni ted failon

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[KingoftheNorth]

^favorite legal luminary yan ni ted failon

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Frustrated lawyer kasi yan si Ted Failon.

[kisshmet]

^birds of the same feather flock together

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[dreamur]

"By class, Duterte's significant decline among class D or the common masses was offset by his gains in net satisfaction rating among classes ABC and E."

So the premise that oligarchs and elites are anti-digong and the masses are pro is a fallacy.

Tsikoteers are elites, ergo tsikoteers are DDS. Eeer, not. Except for 2 or 3. :D

SWS: Duterte's satisfaction rating plunges across all areas | Philstar.com

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[uls]

Most tsikot people are educated middle class

most educated middle class are anti-du30

[dreamur]

Most tsikot people are educated middle class

most educated middle class are anti-du30

"Educated" being the operative word.

So what about your elite and oligarch theory?

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[jut703]

Most tsikot people are educated middle class

most educated middle class are anti-du30

No, most middle class and up (ABC) are pro-Duterte.

It stayed very good in class ABC at +66 (79 percent satisfied, 13 percent dissatisfied), up by three points from +63 (72 percent satisfied, nine percent dissatisfied) in March.

Class ABC contains the car-owning subset that is Tsikot.

Tsikot is mostly AB, which is only 1% of the population and only forms a small part of the weighted average of ABC. But even within AB (at least within the people I know), there's a sizeable number of Duterte supporters or are at least neutral.


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[uls]

i won't mention names

there's certainly one oligarch who backs LP

[uls]

No, most middle class and up (ABC) are pro-Duterte.



Class ABC contains the car-owning subset that is Tsikot.

Tsikot is mostly AB, which is only 1% of the population and only forms a small part of the weighted average of ABC. But even within AB (at least within the people I know), there's a sizeable number of Duterte supporters or are at least neutral.


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so why is tsikot forum overwhelmingly anti-du30?

based on what you said, there should be more pro-du30 in tsikot forum

[uls]

"Educated" being the operative word.

So what about your elite and oligarch theory?

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ano po ba ang "elitista"?

hindi ba mga edukado na feeling mas matalino at mas magaling kesa sa mga tulad ng Mocha?

ung mga feeling hindi sila part ng masang pilipino?

ung mga feeling that they're above the masses

kaya po elitista ang tawag sa kanila

[dreamur]

ano po ba ang "elitista"?

hindi ba mga edukado na feeling mas matalino at mas magaling kesa sa mga tulad ng Mocha?

ung mga feeling hindi sila part ng masang pilipino?

ung mga feeling that they're above the masses

kaya po elitista ang tawag sa kanila

So if ABC is supporting digong while the masses (D) are the opposite, which class do the elites belong to? I guess class E for Elite. :D

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[jut703]

so why is tsikot forum overwhelmingly anti-du30?

based on what you said, there should be more pro-du30 in tsikot forum

Very small subset, not representative of the total population of class ABC.

Like Ateneo, also very anti-Duterte but a very small subset of the big picture.

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[uls]

So if ABC is supporting digong while the masses (D) are the opposite, which class do the elites belong to? I guess class E for Elite. :D

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i think JUT703 answered the question