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    #13421
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    may katotohanan nga ang lumang joke

    Kano, Hapon, Pinoy sa barko

    Kano nagtapon ng mansanas sa dagat

    sabi ng dalawa "sayang"

    sabi ng Kano "madami kami nyan"

    Hapon nagtapon ng TV sa dagat

    sabi ng dalawa "sayang"

    sabi ng Hapon "madami kami nyan"

    Pinoy nagtapon ng maid sa dagat
    ibig sabihin mas mayaman Pinoy? Siya lang meron katulong na kasama sa barko. [emoji39]



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    #13422
    Quote Originally Posted by joaquim View Post
    May problema din naman sa mga produkto inexport yung na lang hindi nasaktan yung gumagawa. Pero madali naman makikita ng china kaya baka mawala din sa iyo eventually. Sa manpower naman konti competensya natin at mataas ang sweldo kay may risk. Kailangan lang siguro ng magaling na "customer support" na kamukha ng sa mga produkto para sa reklamo.

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    may customer support para sa produkto ng Pinas

    pangalan DFA

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    ibig sabihin mas mayaman Pinoy? Siya lang meron katulong na kasama sa barko. [emoji39]



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    haha

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    #13423
    Quote Originally Posted by Boss_MajorXIII View Post
    Regarding the Kuwait issue for sure kabobohan ang ipublish online ang "secret mission" without understanding its consequence pero sa tingin n'yo iniutos 'yan ng DFA o DU30 mismo? may nagkamali at dapat managot sigurado. Hindi nakapagtataka that most post are against DU30 sa madaming issue at ganun na lang lang-langin ang 16M voters. All **** happens sa Pinoy dahil din sa Pinoy, una ayaw patalo then lahat magagaling. Daming idea ng mamamayan pero walang disiplina at kulang sa aksyon.

    As President, si DU30 did some good strides already in different front, tendency lang na irefuse nating tingnan o hindi lang talaga sanay ang Pinoy sa pagbabago. Kung walang kurap walang mahirap sabi noon pero wala bang kurap noon?

    About Boracay? It's about time.
    Assuming that there are no ulterior motives involved....


    The issue is not the problems...the issue is *how* they are being dealt with. imho it's unfair to punish both who are compliant and non-compliant. Pwede naman gawin yung cleanup without closure..pwede din naman yung noncompliant lang ang ipasara. Pwede din naman walang Navy Seal dun, as Boracay is not in danger of being occupied by a foreign power.

    Sure dapat lang ayusin ang problema natin, but are we solving it in the best way possible?

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    #13424
    Dali lang kasi magsalita in retrospect. Nung 1950-60's ang lakas ng exports natin sa US, maisip pa kaya ng mga economist noon yan industrialization if we are actually doing very well? The concern during that time was politics because technically we are a new nation with just about 2 decades of actual independence. As leon pointed out, we were actually doing fine then, except that FM screwed it all up. He institutionalized corruption, padreno system and cronyism. All factors that has kept our manufacturing industry lagging behind our other industries since until now, ang hirap mag-invest ng mga foreigners to help us in industries since mahal kuryente, pangit roads and infrastructure, red-tape etc.

    There is no point in crying over spilled milk. The question now is how can we use our competitive advantage in having a skilled workforce out of the country to turn things around.

    Ayus din yung diskarte nila PDigong na ibalik sa mga past admin yung sisi ng problema sa OFW, samantalang ang isyu naman talaga is yung kapalpakan ng action kaloka na ginawa nila.

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    #13425
    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    Assuming that there are no ulterior motives involved....


    The issue is not the problems...the issue is *how* they are being dealt with. imho it's unfair to punish both who are compliant and non-compliant. Pwede naman gawin yung cleanup without closure..pwede din naman yung noncompliant lang ang ipasara. Pwede din naman walang Navy Seal dun, as Boracay is not in danger of being occupied by a foreign power.

    Sure dapat lang ayusin ang problema natin, but are we solving it in the best way possible?
    Re Boracay, why challenge the wisdom of policy makers if we ourselves are at lost kung ano ba ang ibig sabihin ng best way possible? Look at MM, araw-araw tinatrabaho ng MMDA ang obstruction in piece meal pero dami pa ding balik sa dating ugali. Then ang focus ng sisi nasa MMDA pero kung iisipin katulad 'yan ng problema sa boracay, ang root cause ay taga doon din pero dahil nagkakabenepisyo sila kahit sinasalaula ang batas man o kalikasan ay hindi nila ramdam 'yung perwisyo. Alam lang nila na maltrato ay kapag sila na mismo ang "mapeperwisyo".

    Regarding navy seals o special forces sa Boracay eh pagsasayang ba 'yan ng resources? overkill ba 'yan? ang regular soldiers at police konte lang at busy sila sa normal peace and order operation, pero mga special ops eh madalas tambay lang mga 'yan sa kampo.

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    #13426
    Smile muna...



    Obosen ang Abingers...

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    #13427
    Quote Originally Posted by Boss_MajorXIII View Post
    Re Boracay, why challenge the wisdom of policy makers if we ourselves are at lost kung ano ba ang ibig sabihin ng best way possible? Look at MM, araw-araw tinatrabaho ng MMDA ang obstruction in piece meal pero dami pa ding balik sa dating ugali. Then ang focus ng sisi nasa MMDA pero kung iisipin katulad 'yan ng problema sa boracay, ang root cause ay taga doon din pero dahil nagkakabenepisyo sila kahit sinasalaula ang batas man o kalikasan ay hindi nila ramdam 'yung perwisyo. Alam lang nila na maltrato ay kapag sila na mismo ang "mapeperwisyo".

    Regarding navy seals o special forces sa Boracay eh pagsasayang ba 'yan ng resources? overkill ba 'yan? ang regular soldiers at police konte lang at busy sila sa normal peace and order operation, pero mga special ops eh madalas tambay lang mga 'yan sa kampo.
    If you want to make the assumption that our leaders know best, then let's agree to disagree, and i wish you good fortune as we part ways.

    On my part, i believe we should always be skeptical, regradless of who we voted for...because, as history would suggest, our leaders don't always know best, and they don't always have out best interests at heart.

    Afaik, special forces should always be kept at the ready in case there is an emergency: terrorist attacks, bombings, foreign incursions, you name it. Special forces are best used in offensive operations, and not used as an occupying/peacekeeping force.

    Remember the SAF being deployed at NBP? Perhaps special forces isn't the solution for all situations.
    Last edited by badkuk; April 27th, 2018 at 07:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss_MajorXIII View Post
    Re Boracay, why challenge the wisdom of policy makers if we ourselves are at lost kung ano ba ang ibig sabihin ng best way possible? Look at MM, araw-araw tinatrabaho ng MMDA ang obstruction in piece meal pero dami pa ding balik sa dating ugali. Then ang focus ng sisi nasa MMDA pero kung iisipin katulad 'yan ng problema sa boracay, ang root cause ay taga doon din pero dahil nagkakabenepisyo sila kahit sinasalaula ang batas man o kalikasan ay hindi nila ramdam 'yung perwisyo. Alam lang nila na maltrato ay kapag sila na mismo ang "mapeperwisyo".

    Regarding navy seals o special forces sa Boracay eh pagsasayang ba 'yan ng resources? overkill ba 'yan? ang regular soldiers at police konte lang at busy sila sa normal peace and order operation, pero mga special ops eh madalas tambay lang mga 'yan sa kampo.
    special ops train harder than regular troops..bora is now engaged in biological warfare

    the AFP need to solidify their biological warfare doctrine with oplan malabanan..bora is a fertile ground to put that into reality

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    #13429
    Sus nagbobolahan na naman kayo. Ano gusto nyo ala noynoy boom panot na walanag pakiealam.

    Yung problema sa middle-east about ofw eh decades na yan. Ilan na usap diplomatic talks. Pero tinutupad ba nila? Tinatrato ba maayos? Yung ginawa pinoy ambassador eh dapat lalng. Oras na magcovert ops kaso dapat hindi nirelease video.

    According sa kilala ko mechanico sa banawe. Pag middle east daw na probinsya eh hindi na sya babalik. Wala daw malapitan pag nirape ang lalake doon.

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    #13430
    ^social media is the venue of this govt to propagate its malasakit kaso sumabog sa pagmumukha nila

    malapit na daw pirmahan ang MOU with kuwaiti govt..hindi naman totoo

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    #13431
    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    ^social media is the venue of this govt to propagate its malasakit kaso sumabog sa pagmumukha nila

    malapit na daw pirmahan ang MOU with kuwaiti govt..hindi naman totoo

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    Malaking pagkakamali talaga na ikinalat pa 'yung video pero ang mali din ng madaming Pinoy ay nawala sa focus dahil nagwala ang kuwait pero kung iisipin ego lang 'yan ng Kuwait dahil sunod-sunod blackeye nila kay DU30 noon tapos nahanapan ngayon ng tyempo. Ang facts ay nandoon pa din na walag ginagawa ang Kuwait para palakasin ang proteksyon against abuses sa mga kasambahay na OFW. Politiko lang 'yan na nagpapaikot sa mundo, at lamang lang kuwait sa mga tulad ng Pinas dahil may mga leverages sila na wala tayo. 'Yung ambassador sa kuwait ex-ofw kung tama pagkakarinig ko sa isang newscast so more or less alam n'ya ang feeling ng abused ofw, regardless of the means 'yung issue ng pangaabuso dapat ay isaalang-alang din. Ang embahada ng mga western country, gumagawa din 'yan ng extra-judicial means sa ibang bansa lalo na kung desperado na citizen nila pero big deal ba? 'Yung sundalong kano nga na pumatay sa trans na nipick-up n'ya eh sinaklolohan ng embahada ng America in our face pero may nagawa ba tayo? Panahon dapat ito ng pagkakaisa ng same voices ng mga Pinoy to condemn abuses pero hindi eh kase nagfocus tayo sa bagsik ng Kuwait eh Ego lang naman 'yun. Chance to shine na ito ng international human rights, moralist et al, pero hina yata ng signal.

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    #13432
    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    If you want to make the assumption that our leaders know best, then let's agree to disagree, and i wish you good fortune as we part ways.

    On my part, i believe we should always be skeptical, regradless of who we voted for...because, as history would suggest, our leaders don't always know best, and they don't always have out best interests at heart.

    Afaik, special forces should always be kept at the ready in case there is an emergency: terrorist attacks, bombings, foreign incursions, you name it. Special forces are best used in offensive operations, and not used as an occupying/peacekeeping force.

    Remember the SAF being deployed at NBP? Perhaps special forces isn't the solution for all situations.
    Hindi naman sinabi na we cannot question the leaders eh pero once you question them 'wag din pangunahan ang facts o baka naman sadyang praktikal lang. Ang totoo eh kasama sa trabaho ng mga special ops ang civil affairs at security assistance.

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    #13433
    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    special ops train harder than regular troops..bora is now engaged in biological warfare

    the AFP need to solidify their biological warfare doctrine with oplan malabanan..bora is a fertile ground to put that into reality

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    lol. sa totoo lang hindi mo naman alam playbook ng special ops at ang alam lang natin na trabaho nila siguro eh yung napapanood natin sa TV. Sa africa madaming special ops na mga intsik, kano, at Frances pero wala namang bio warfare doon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss_MajorXIII View Post
    Malaking pagkakamali talaga na ikinalat pa 'yung video pero ang mali din ng madaming Pinoy ay nawala sa focus dahil nagwala ang kuwait pero kung iisipin ego lang 'yan ng Kuwait dahil sunod-sunod blackeye nila kay DU30 noon tapos nahanapan ngayon ng tyempo. Ang facts ay nandoon pa din na walag ginagawa ang Kuwait para palakasin ang proteksyon against abuses sa mga kasambahay na OFW. Politiko lang 'yan na nagpapaikot sa mundo, at lamang lang kuwait sa mga tulad ng Pinas dahil may mga leverages sila na wala tayo. 'Yung ambassador sa kuwait ex-ofw kung tama pagkakarinig ko sa isang newscast so more or less alam n'ya ang feeling ng abused ofw, regardless of the means 'yung issue ng pangaabuso dapat ay isaalang-alang din. Ang embahada ng mga western country, gumagawa din 'yan ng extra-judicial means sa ibang bansa lalo na kung desperado na citizen nila pero big deal ba? 'Yung sundalong kano nga na pumatay sa trans na nipick-up n'ya eh sinaklolohan ng embahada ng America in our face pero may nagawa ba tayo? Panahon dapat ito ng pagkakaisa ng same voices ng mga Pinoy to condemn abuses pero hindi eh kase nagfocus tayo sa bagsik ng Kuwait eh Ego lang naman 'yun. Chance to shine na ito ng international human rights, moralist et al, pero hina yata ng signal.
    Walang blackeye ang kuwait kay duterte..hindi naman kuwaiti ang nakapatay kay dimafelis..libyan and syrian couple

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    #13435
    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    Walang blackeye ang kuwait kay duterte..hindi naman kuwaiti ang nakapatay kay dimafelis..libyan and syrian couple

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    Akala mo lang wala pero meron hehehe.

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    #13436
    Quote Originally Posted by Boss_MajorXIII View Post
    Hindi naman sinabi na we cannot question the leaders eh pero once you question them 'wag din pangunahan ang facts o baka naman sadyang praktikal lang. Ang totoo eh kasama sa trabaho ng mga special ops ang civil affairs at security assistance.
    How do you know the facts? By asking questions.

    By that logic, Navy Seals should be deployed to manage traffic along EDSA.
    Last edited by badkuk; April 27th, 2018 at 08:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    How do you know the facts? By asking questions.

    By that logic, Navy Seals should be deployed to manage traffic along EDSA.
    'Yan ang maling analogy at suggestion. Paano mo idedeploy ang navy seals na specialist sa ops at security para magayos ng traffic? Bigyan mo ng training kung paano magtraffic? Hindi ba pagsasayang 'yan ng resources?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss_MajorXIII View Post
    'Yan ang maling analogy at suggestion. Paano mo idedeploy ang navy seals na specialist sa ops at security para magayos ng traffic? Bigyan mo ng training kung paano magtraffic? Hindi ba pagsasayang 'yan ng resources?
    So you're saying, the special forcesshould be reserved for situations where their skills are *truly* needed, sir?

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    #13439
    Quote Originally Posted by Boss_MajorXIII View Post
    'Yan ang maling analogy at suggestion. Paano mo idedeploy ang navy seals na specialist sa ops at security para magayos ng traffic? Bigyan mo ng training kung paano magtraffic? Hindi ba pagsasayang 'yan ng resources?
    Waste of resources? You mean like deploying 600 fully armed troops and the Coast Guards newest ships to guard a 10 square kilometer island?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Waste of resources? You mean like deploying 600 fully armed troops and the Coast Guards newest ships to guard a 10 square kilometer island?
    Eh yung Jolo nga nag peak sa 7K sundalo nagbantay naubos ba abu sayyaf? I mean bago magtanong dapat magcheck din sa operation ratio ng sundalo per defensive position. Ako kase hindi ko alam eh.

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