Digong, The President

[leonleon]

coz admin after admin after admin didn't do anything to encourage investment in industries that make goods

so people had no choice but to go abroad

So you're saying that if given the choice, a maid working in Singapore would rather be in the Phils. working as a factory worker?

[DenNix]

pinay maids being mistreated and killed

govt had to do something

which lead to this foreign affairs problem

if the country exported goods instead of humans we wouldn't have this problem in the first place

The Foreign affairs problem is the mishandling of supposedly covert op video (aka rescue of "abused" OFWs) that Mocha Uson's group wanted to magnify and use for propaganda, but it back fired and sh!t hits the fan.

The numerous cases of OFW being killed and abused is another matter. We are doing good some weeks back, we had the moral high-ground to demand from Kuwait. May deployment ban pa nga. I support all those measures.

But when you have another group or agency wanted nothing but promote propaganda (in tagalog: puropagpapaganda), then it becomes exposed to monumental screw ups. just like what had happen.

The obvious question is: How come the DFA and the Ambasador missed the basic diplomatic principles? Or maybe somebody told them to just sit on their hands and let Mocha run the show and her project there.

[uls]

So you're saying that if given the choice, a maid working in Singapore would rather be in the Phils. working as a factory worker?

so you're saying export-oriented economies like sk, taiwan, etc are doing it wrong

[Monseratto]

[badkuk]

The situation sucks really. Given a choice most Pinoys would want to stay here in PH, but they can't, because generation after generation has failed to make life easier for the next.

i am in no way condoning the mistreatment of OFWs, but here is the stark reality : as things are, we *need* to send OFWs abroad. There is zero doubt in my mind about that.

The question we should be asking is whether or not the government is making the situation better or worse...whether we are capitalizing in their sacrifices to makes life in these islands better.

[leonleon]

so you're saying export-oriented economies like sk, taiwan, etc are doing it wrong

What I'm saying is that there will always be people who will prefer to work abroad, for whatever reason.

I don't have the numbers, but I'm betting most Filipinos work abroad for economic reasons.

Magkano ba sweldo ng maid sa Singapore?

Makgano ba sweldo ng factory worker sa Pilipinas?

Your "solution" is too myopic, and does not take into account a lot of factors why we have a large number of migrant workers to begin with.

One of that factor is our more than 100 million population.

There are a lot of other factors, of course.

And because of that it will take more than making the Phils. export oriented to entice our OFW's to just stay home.

[leonleon]

So the Mocha Uson Show is a EPIC FAIL again.

[uls]

omg i have to explain everything sabi ko admin after admin after admin so i'm talking about going back several decades if our country decided to build an industrial base in the 1960s we would be a high income country by now and people wouldn't need to go abroad and we would even be hiring foreign labor to clean our toilets and we wouldn't be having this problem in the first place

[Monseratto]

And what about pineapple face Calida?

Peyk nws b o ndi???

[shadow]

Side step muna.

See Kim's security guards run alongside limo - CNN Video

So yun very sick man in Asia na sinasabi ni dutiti is making a headway sa talks with his counterpart.

So isa lang lang ang sick man dito sa asia na akala niya He's all powerful [emoji23]


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[uls]

Side step muna.

See Kim's security guards run alongside limo - CNN Video

So yun very sick man in Asia na sinasabi ni dutiti is making a headway sa talks with his counterpart.

So isa lang lang ang sick man dito sa asia na akala niya He's all powerful [emoji23]


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magaling dumiskarte si Kim and/or magaling mga advisers (China) niya

it was only months ago that he almost made the US bomb his country

ngayon mag uusap na sila ni Trump



remember before this NK-SK meet, Kim went to Beijing last month

Kim Jong-un Met With Xi Jinping in Secret Beijing Visit - The New York Times

[DenNix]

magaling dumiskarte si Kim and/or magaling mga advisers (China) niya

it was only months ago that he almost made the US bomb his country

ngayon mag uusap na sila ni Trump

Sun Tzu would advise Kim to do the same if he is still alive.

Their recent power projection is based on threat and fear of war. It didn;t work out last time, so now Kim is doing things differently. I heard their nuke test site collapsed and theres not much success on their missiles too. So, those threats and word war has nothing to it but just bluff. The blinked, now they cross the border to seek peace.

Clever idea: seek peace. Buy time. Stay alive.

[leonleon]

omg i have to explain everything sabi ko admin after admin after admin so i'm talking about going back several decades if our country decided to build an industrial base in the 1960s we would be a high income country by now and people wouldn't need to go abroad and we would even be hiring foreign labor to clean our toilets and we wouldn't be having this problem in the first place

Kasalanan ni Marcos, at iba pang katulad niyang corrupt, yan.

We were on that road and he derailed it big time to enrich himself, setting the Philippines back to the dinosaur age.

Kaya nga sabi ni PNoy: Kung walang kurap, walang mahirap.

And since you can't put the genie back in the bottle, we have to concentrate efforts on what we can do now, not what could have been yesterday.

Tapos na 1960's.

[uls]

Kasalanan ni Marcos, at iba pang katulad niyang corrupt, yan.

We were on that road and he derailed it big time to enrich himself, setting the Philippines back to the dinosaur age.

Kaya nga sabi ni PNoy: Kung walang kurap, walang mahirap.

And since you can't put the genie back in the bottle, we have to concentrate efforts on what we can do now, not what could have been yesterday.

Tapos na 1960's.

kaya etong problema re OFWs will be with us for a long time

kahit iba na ang admin... decades from now... ganyan parin

pag may giyera sa middle east, problema ng gobyerno

pag may lindol sa japan, problema ng gobyerno

pag may outbreak ng sakit sa ibang bansa, problema ng gobyerno

pag may crackdown sa illegal aliens, problema ng gobyerno

pag may na-aabuso at napapatay, problema ng gobyerno

coz of our human export, friction with foreign governments is unavoidable

this Kuwait incident won't be the last

[joaquim]

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]My opinion sa OFW, we are very successful in exporting them because of our culture. Filipinos can easily adopt to any culture, language, food, weather.
If china is the manufacturing capital ok din naman siguro na ang pilipinas ay maging manpower capital ng mundo (huwag lang natin iexport yung mga teacher, professors na magagaling)


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[uls]

kung produkto ang inexport mo, hindi problema ng gobyerno kung martilyohin ng foreigner ang produkto mo

tao ang inexport mo eh

kaya problema ng gobyerno pag pinokpok sa ulo ung ofw

[joaquim]

May problema din naman sa mga produkto inexport yung na lang hindi nasaktan yung gumagawa. Pero madali naman makikita ng china kaya baka mawala din sa iyo eventually. Sa manpower naman konti competensya natin at mataas ang sweldo kay may risk. Kailangan lang siguro ng magaling na "customer support" na kamukha ng sa mga produkto para sa reklamo.

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[Boss_MajorXIII]

Regarding the Kuwait issue for sure kabobohan ang ipublish online ang "secret mission" without understanding its consequence pero sa tingin n'yo iniutos 'yan ng DFA o DU30 mismo? may nagkamali at dapat managot sigurado. Hindi nakapagtataka that most post are against DU30 sa madaming issue at ganun na lang lang-langin ang 16M voters. All **** happens sa Pinoy dahil din sa Pinoy, una ayaw patalo then lahat magagaling. Daming idea ng mamamayan pero walang disiplina at kulang sa aksyon.

As President, si DU30 did some good strides already in different front, tendency lang na irefuse nating tingnan o hindi lang talaga sanay ang Pinoy sa pagbabago. Kung walang kurap walang mahirap sabi noon pero wala bang kurap noon?

About Boracay? It's about time.

[uls]

May problema din naman sa mga produkto inexport yung na lang hindi nasaktan yung gumagawa. Pero madali naman makikita ng china kaya baka mawala din sa iyo eventually. Sa manpower naman konti competensya natin at mataas ang sweldo kay may risk. Kailangan lang siguro ng magaling na "customer support" na kamukha ng sa mga produkto para sa reklamo.

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may katotohanan nga ang lumang joke

Kano, Hapon, Pinoy sa barko

Kano nagtapon ng mansanas sa dagat

sabi ng dalawa "sayang"

sabi ng Kano "madami kami nyan"

Hapon nagtapon ng TV sa dagat

sabi ng dalawa "sayang"

sabi ng Hapon "madami kami nyan"

Pinoy nagtapon ng maid sa dagat

[DenNix]

The issue can be OFW and the way we 'export' them, but the main issue of the discussion here is what DFA did to rescue those OFW and how they handled it (videohan ba naman at ipost para ipagmalaki).

The plight of OFWs and reason why we are OK with sending someone we love abroad to work includes a lot of dynamics there - political, social, economic and sometimes even religious. But altogether, ibang usapin yan.

Back to the plot -- DFA covertly and illegally recues distressed OFWs in Kuwait without going to proper diplomatic means, video it and posted it on social media like an action packed, navy seal-led, hard core mission worthy of praise.