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    Quote Originally Posted by Jfox View Post
    iYou have no clue and yet you knew that same trapos will run the government? I don't get that
    i think what sir clanker meant by "some people" is other people, i.e. not himself.

    Under our constitution, there must be a revolutionary govt, even without rebellion, para ma dissolve ang congress to pave for federalism. Si Joaquin Bernas author nyan. Yung revo govt is just a compliance to the laws.
    So it's kinda like combination of EDSA I without the Marcoses, and the ConCom, ChaCha without going through legal/political deliberation?

    i firmly believe that there is no single superior form of government for all cases. And i firmly believe that what our government actually does is a lot more important than the underlying political ideology in achieving prosperity. If there is true compassion and concern for the country and its people, then it will guide government and the people themselves in their daily lives -- ie wag umasa sa daang matuwid, tumahak tayo ng matuwid, kahit baluktot ang dinadaan.


    Well, that's the theory at least. People can fall short of expectations. So the question is, do we trust our leaders?
    Last edited by badkuk; December 13th, 2015 at 12:28 PM.

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    digong.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    Yes it's sufficient, the problem is the politicians. The same trapos that were a product of Martial Rule. Sino ba ang mag papatako ng States pag naging Federal ang format natin? The same trapos, the same family dynasty. The only difference is they will have a free reign over the state, private armies and all crap there is.

    Do you think there is a one size fits all solution?

    Putak kayo ng putak about the federal format samantalang ang lumalabas sa bibig ni digong eh revolutionary government. Simply put dictatorship. Military at pulis ang mobilize nya which is tantamount to martial rule.

    Damn, people really don't have an ounce of clue.
    Let's separate federalism and Duterte muna. So you're saying what ever system we have is irrelevant because we have corrupt politicians? If so, there's no use discussing with you the merits or demerits of federalism

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    Yan si Duterte? When you don't agree with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonemus View Post
    Let's separate federalism and Duterte muna. So you're saying what ever system we have is irrelevant because we have corrupt politicians? If so, there's no use discussing with you the merits or demerits of federalism
    Ano pa nga ba. It's the same banana, if run by the same monkeys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jfox View Post
    You have no clue and yet you knew that same trapos will run the government? I don't get that

    Under our constitution, there must be a revolutionary govt, even without rebellion, para ma dissolve ang congress to pave for federalism. Si Joaquin Bernas author nyan. Yung revo govt is just a compliance to the laws.
    re. bolded part.

    Ikaw na ang nag sabi na wala kang clue.

    There must be a what? Revolution! Compliance to what Law?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by macsd View Post
    Davao police twits Mar Roxas over peace and order ‘myth’ | Inquirer News



    Naku mismong mamang pulis kinontra ang statement ng dati nilang among Mar. Dapat huwag na pumunta si Mar sa Davao at baka salvage din cya ng mga pulis. Baka pagbintangan cyang magnanakaw ng attention:hysterical:
    Sa mga ayaw kay duterte. Ano nga ba ang pwedeng ipagmalaki natin na achievement ni roxas being part of the executive branch of the government?

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    Quote Originally Posted by valskie01 View Post
    Sa mga ayaw kay duterte. Ano nga ba ang pwedeng ipagmalaki natin na achievement ni roxas being part of the executive branch of the government?
    without running the risk of being labeled a roxas apologist, his being a mar roxas is an achievement enough. on paper, he is the most qualified candidate for president there is. he might not have the charisma of digong or GP, but am sure as hell roxas is incorruptible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valskie01 View Post
    Sa mga ayaw kay duterte. Ano nga ba ang pwedeng ipagmalaki natin na achievement ni roxas being part of the executive branch of the government?
    Mar's biggest achievement is being the most loyal to Abnoy to the point of:

    1. He gave way to his presidential ambition in 2010.

    2. He stick with Abnoy innocence on the SAF44 despite it was kept behind him.

    3. He did not kickout out Purisima despite all the issues.

    4. He spearheaded Robredo's rescue/retrieval with Abnoy acting concern.

    5. He started the screw-up of MRT and hand it over to a more screwed guy Abaya.

    And because of this he earned Abnoy's endorsement which turned to be a kiss of death. :hysterical:

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    custom presidential seat

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    That's exactly the thing that worries people about Duterte.

    i grant you, nobody can touch him on how he ran Davao City during his term; on the other hand, all that he's shown since he (finally) announced his candidacy is show people that he's a hothead with a potty mouth.

    So far there hasn't been that much fallout from the people he's crossed(De Lima, Mar, even Pope Francis), but what if he picks a fight with China, Russia, US?

    Anong pinagkaiba ng inaasal niya ngayon sa maliit na bata na me tantrum? Guys, sa pelikula lang nangyayari yan, where you can get away with being an immature turd just bcause you're the bida. Being president means being mature, diplomatic, politically savvy; trust me, if he does become president, people will do worse than question his track record.

    i really don't trust he will be mature enough to be president. If he does become president, there's a good chance he'll get frustrated by this and just walk away(siya na mismo nagsabi, he may not finish his term)


    Re federalism: siya na mismo nagsabi, some problems(e.g. poverty) will take more than 6 years to fix...yet he is quite confident that we can shift to federalism in that span of time? Federalism nga ba yung gusto niya?


    The one thing that annoys me the most is that lagi niyang pinapalabas na ayaw niyang maging presidente, napilitan lang, etc etc.
    What if he does something horribly wrong while president, and when people start criticizing him for it, sagutin niya ng "e kayo nagboto sa akin eh, di ko na kasalanan yun". What if he suddenly steps down and says "ayaw ko naman maging presidente e, pinilit nyo lang ako, kaya OK lang na magresign ako" ? i find it hard to counter that argument. At some point somebody(ie the president) has to take charge, take responsibility.

    imho i'd feel better if he just said "akong bahala na inyo", even if we all know that's impossible. Parang nung sinasagot ka ng nobya mo -- "oo" or "hindi" is fine, wag yung "ewan".
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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    Parang nung sinasagot ka ng nobya mo -- "oo" or "hindi" is fine, wag yung "ewan".
    si GP daw ang sagot dyan e "oo, pero dalawa kayo." hahaha! president op da pilipins pero ang loyalty kay uncle sam.

    huwag naman sana maging presidente itong si digong. parehas lang sila ni binay. one is a thief and the other is a self-confessed wanna-be dictator. both are equally bad. and the people around them are like packs of hyenas waiting for something to just die. same goes for those around GP, too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    without running the risk of being labeled a roxas apologist, his being a mar roxas is an achievement enough. on paper, he is the most qualified candidate for president there is. he might not have the charisma of digong or GP, but am sure as hell roxas is incorruptible.
    Why he is the most qualified candidate for president? Yung mga dutertards ang pinagsisigawan nila is yung what he did sa davao city. Peace and order. Si roxas ano bentahe niya sa pagka presidente.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valskie01 View Post
    Why he is the most qualified candidate for president? Yung mga dutertards ang pinagsisigawan nila is yung what he did sa davao city. Peace and order. Si roxas ano bentahe niya sa pagka presidente.
    Meron cyang first lady na mapapanood mo mamayang 7pm sa ABS-CBN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valskie01 View Post
    Why he is the most qualified candidate for president? Yung mga dutertards ang pinagsisigawan nila is yung what he did sa davao city. Peace and order. Si roxas ano bentahe niya sa pagka presidente.
    Sa kin naman Mar is the least disastrous for the country. The rest puro doomsday scenarios

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonemus View Post
    Sa kin naman Mar is the least disastrous for the country. The rest puro doomsday scenarios
    kagaya nito--
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    kagaya nito--
    Where he belongs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by valskie01 View Post
    Sa mga ayaw kay duterte. Ano nga ba ang pwedeng ipagmalaki natin na achievement ni roxas being part of the executive branch of the government?
    check roxas city, capiz

    davao overrated < capiz

    in terms of autonomous and economy.

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    Mar-leni seems to be the best and safest bet imho. Slowly, surely things are progressing and looking forward continuing the current track is more promising than starting over and balik sa trial and error nanaman. The hope duterte followers are holding on to e wala naman guatantee na mangyayari talaga. If magstep down si duterte before his term ends sakaling manalo, jackpot si cayetano. I get the impression na yung presidentiables puro napilitan lang at yung vp candidates puro opportunists...

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