Digong, The President

[minicarph]

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[Ry_Tower]

Pero considered as province pa rin if we are here talking in Manila? I mean, what's wrong in calling Davao a provincial city?

I go with any place outside of the capital is called a province.

Masama ba pag tinawag na provincial city Ang Davao?


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Oo naman. Provincial city pa rin.

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[Ry_Tower]

Its still redistributing power (political and economic) from few national to many local dynasties/warlords. Better than being in the hands of a few, IMHO, as more will benefit.

Which in the current state of voting patterns means dynasties which is never good. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Politics is being used ny dysnaties primarily as their family's business. And mind you, dynasty is strictly prohibited bybour constitution but becausenof dynasties nga, no implementing laws have ever been approved by our legislators.

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[ClaNker]

Its still redistributing power (political and economic) from few national to many local dynasties/warlords. Better than being in the hands of a few, IMHO, as more will benefit.

The raise of the private armies of each dynasties in each respective Providences. Ilang provinces tayo? Maraming political clan nga ang makikinabang nyan.

[anonemus]

A quick primer on the pros and cons of federalism for the Philippines:

The pros and cons of Federalism | mb.com.ph | Philippine News




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Good article by presenting pros and cons

The raise of the private armies of each dynasties in each respective Providences. Ilang provinces tayo? Maraming political clan nga ang makikinabang nyan.

More than 80 provinces.

Federalism is decentralizing power, which has its pros and cons. The benefits outweighs the costs.

The simple logic here is its better for more regions/provinces/dynasties/clans to benefit rather than just the select few.

Take traffic congestion in Metro Manila, Cebu and Davao. Their infrastructure can only absorb so much and will be more unbearable in the next 5 years if development continues to be centralized in these key areas

Decentralization > Autonomy > Federalism is one way towards sustainable economic growth

[Ry_Tower]

2 things. Federalism is divisive by nature. We already have regionalistic tendency s I don't think adding fuel to the fire would not be helpful in the long run.

We already have a huge problem with corruption. Federalism expounds this.

These two things for me greatly outweighs any pros of federalism. If we can somehow reduce the prevalence of these 2 issue then maybe federalism is the way to go.

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[anonemus]

2 things. Federalism is divisive by nature. We already have regionalistic tendency s I don't think adding fuel to the fire would not be helpful in the long run.

We already have a huge problem with corruption. Federalism expounds this.

These two things for me greatly outweighs any pros of federalism. If we can somehow reduce the prevalence of these 2 issue then maybe federalism is the way to go.

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You just cited the two cons in the linked article. And theyre both speculative. Those are the same arguments presented by those who opposed the Local Government Code back in the late 80s, but look at how beneficial the LGC has been overall (notwithstanding some issues that can be improved like LCE control over the local police)

[shadow]

Filipino culture is not suited for federalism and or parliament system.

Warlords and dynasties are powerful, corrupt and abusive at It is and Shooting federalism Will empower them more.

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[yebo]

kung federal govt e di masaya mga taga metro manila. no matter what you say MM still has the biggest tax collection. nasa MM ang major international airports and seaports. magsasawa sa dami ng pera ang state of NCR and all those that will be part of it.

[minicarph]

Gusto gusto ng mga ka-gym ko yan Federation

[jut703]

That's also my reservation for federalism - hypothetically, how can poorer cities stand on their own without support from taxes elsewhere?


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[Altis6453]

There's a way to make federalism work without perpetuating the dynasties. Just make elective office a one and done affair with perpetual disqualification to relatives up to the 4th degree of consanguinity for any elective or appointive post for those who are already holding office and those that come after them.

[Juan Martinez]

and maguindanao or ARMM will still wallow in poverty.

no doubt, federalism has its own merits, but it is wrong to suppose it is a panacea to all our ills at this stage of our nationhood.

how old is our republic?
how strong it is?
how stable our economy?
how mature our electorate?

if we adopt the federal system, we need to rewrite our constitution. all government endeavors would be geared towards that undertaking, leaving whatever gains, if any, we have achieved today. the 6-year term of the president may not even be enough to overhaul the present system, and transition from one to the next.

each state should have its own supreme court, law-making body, and executive branch. and this will be replicated to each and every state within the system. can you imagine the number of workers to be employed in all of these states and the amount of salaries to be paid to them?

at present, we have more than 1.3M employees in our bureaucracy and we cannot even pay them the same salary that their counterpart in the private sector are receiving. and that number will be most probably doubled, if not tripled.

the federal system might work. but not now. or, not in our lifetime.

what we need is a leader with a strong political will.

[Juan Martinez]

That's also my reservation for federalism - hypothetically, how can poorer cities stand on their own without support from taxes elsewhere?


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without the annual internal revenue allotment, poor municipalities hardly can

[macsd]

Duterte tops SWS poll | Inquirer News

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DAVAO City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte topped a nationwide survey that Social Weather Stations (SWS) conducted in the last week of November, emerging as the No. 1 choice of voters not only from all socioeconomic classes but also from all geographic areas.

Nationwide, Duterte was the choice of 38 percent of voters, giving him a double-digit lead over Sen. Grace Poe and Vice President Jejomar Binay, who each got 21 percent. Former Interior Secretary Mar Roxas received 15 percent and Sen. Miriam Defensor-Santiago got 4 percent. Only 1 percent of the voters were undecided.

Among the upper and middle classes (ABC), the tough-talking Duterte got a commanding lead of 62 percent. In far second was Binay with 16 percent, followed by erstwhile front-runner Poe with 13 percent.

Roxas, the Aquino administration’s presidential candidate, got just 6 percent and Santiago, 1 percent.

If there is any indication as this survey result, that is Juan dela Cruz is sick and tired of trapo politics.

As to Roxas sinking poorly 4th is simply because Juan Dela Cruz see nothing out of Daan Matuwid administration and that his prime time was over when he let it got in 2010. I pity him , his case is comparable to Gibo Teodoro when he lost the election cause people was against GMA administration despite being a good & capable presidentiable like Roxas.

[Juan Martinez]

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If there is any indication as this survey result, that is Juan dela Cruz is sick and tired of trapo politics.

As to Roxas sinking poorly 4th is simply because Juan Dela Cruz see nothing out of Daan Matuwid administration and that his prime time was over when he let it got in 2010. I pity him , his case is comparable to Gibo Teodoro when he lost the election cause people was against GMA administration despite being a good & capable presidentiable like Roxas.

the rise of digong's number is phenomenal, considering that a month or so ago he just posted a single digit.

yes, there is merit to bro macsd's postulate that people, especially the youth, are tired of TRAPO.

and i wouldn't venture to say that it was because of the "bobotante" that digong's number shoots up-- digong got 62% of the upper and middle classes.

if digong will redeem himself and act more presidentiable, his numbers will still go up. his lovers, fanboys, and supporters must be dancing in ecstasy by now.

[5000rpm]

will wait for result of survey made after the cussing issue...

[CVT]

Duterte tops SWS poll | Inquirer News

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If there is any indication as this survey result, that is Juan dela Cruz is sick and tired of trapo politics.

As to Roxas sinking poorly 4th is simply because Juan Dela Cruz see nothing out of Daan Matuwid administration and that his prime time was over when he let it got in 2010. I pity him , his case is comparable to Gibo Teodoro when he lost the election cause people was against GMA administration despite being a good & capable presidentiable like Roxas.

Agree bro.

MR's run is an endorsement of PNOY's administration. With all the issues lately,- it will be a steep climb for him...


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[ClaNker]

Expected na yang survey result kay digong. Popular talaga yan nationwide dahil sa ginawa nya sa davao, lalo na ngayong may additional na drama na. Nakow gustong-gusto ng pinoy yan.

Ano ba sa tingin nyo ang dahilan kung bakit tinalo ni pinoy si erap? Yes, because of cory's death.

[shadow]

I think survey question is flawed.

Binanggit name ni Duterte eh. Why cant survey firm Just ask the question "who Will you vote for president?"


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