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    November 18th, 2011 02:52 PM #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz
    Supreme Court ruled that TRO is still in effect. Ano kaya ang mananaig TRO or WLO?
    Impasse pa rin, wala pa rin naman nagbago sa stand ng DOJ that SC should hear oral arguments first before issuing the TRO...
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    November 18th, 2011 02:53 PM #82
    Quote Originally Posted by jansky
    SC moves

    Arroyos may now go abroad as SC junks DOJ appeal
    Arroyos may now go abroad as SC junks DOJ appeal - Nation - GMA News Online - Latest Philippine News
    And who controls the BI?
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    November 18th, 2011 03:04 PM #83
    DOJ's move....

    DOJ, SolGen say SC proceedings on Arroyo WLO 'moot and academic' due to raps w/ RTC; SC's Marquez refuses to comment on issue
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    November 18th, 2011 03:07 PM #84
    ^^ hehe its under DOJ,

    DOJ wont bend sa utos ng SC, so ano gagawin ng SC papahuli si De Lima

    let us see this afternoon kng matutuloy ang flight.. nabasa ko around 5pm ang flight ni GMA

    - just heard over news pulis naghanda na anti riot shield is ready sa NAIA
    - pde daw gamitin ni GMA ang airport sa Tarlak or tarmak( korek me if am wrong) mamayang hapon
    - ilang pulis dumating sa St. Lukes Medical Hospital
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    November 18th, 2011 03:09 PM #85
    ^

    nag issue na ba ng HDO ang RTC?
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    November 18th, 2011 03:11 PM #86
    If the SC has sustained the TRO, De Lima is treading on thin ice as she has been told in no uncertain terms to comply with the Supreme Court's issuance. I think she's gonna be cited for contempt.

    The only way they can prevent the Arroyos from leaving is for them to obtain a warrant of arrest from the courts regarding their electoral fraud case.
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    November 18th, 2011 03:12 PM #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
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    nag issue na ba ng HDO ang RTC?
    just heard decision will be this 4pm

    pag na issue ano na stand ng SC ano na ang susundin..
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    November 18th, 2011 03:17 PM #88
    Looks like the Arroyos are going to leave this afternoon, two forces at work here: the DOJ and the SC, if the law is to be uphold of course the SC has the final say but we all know the justices comprising the SC are Arroyo's appointee that adds doubt on the decision for them to grant the former first couple their request to go abroad. DOJ has a little time to make a move to block their pending departure but I for one am not in favor of them leaving without answering their charges first.
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    November 18th, 2011 03:25 PM #89
    Airport officials/officers had already direct instructions from De Lima. Huwag paalisin si GMA.
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    November 18th, 2011 03:26 PM #90
    Quote Originally Posted by jansky

    just heard decision will be this 4pm

    pag na issue ano na stand ng SC ano na ang susundin..
    Yun lower court na masusunod, dahil ang TRO sa SC eh about yun circular 41 ba yun ng DOJ lang...
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    November 18th, 2011 03:29 PM #91
    Yun show cause 10 days pa naman eh...so para maayos na ito, yun decision na lang ng pasay rtc judge iniintay...

    Carrot for the pasay judge he will be promoted to CA Kung maglabas ng HDO...
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    November 18th, 2011 03:30 PM #92
    The Pasay RTC is expected to issue a HDO at 4:30pm. GMA flight out is at 5:10pm. It's going to be close. Will FG leave GMA behind?
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    November 18th, 2011 03:34 PM #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    The Pasay RTC is expected to issue a HDO at 4:30pm. GMA flight out is at 5:10pm. It's going to be close. Will FG leave GMA behind?
    parang NBA nito last 2 minutes , sino kaya ang clutch player heheh
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    November 18th, 2011 03:35 PM #94
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    assuming kasama sa petition ang HDO (Hold Departure Order).. when should the HDO be acted on by the court? after arraignment? before arraignment? immediately?

    sa Raffle, it can be somehow be allegedly manipulated na mapunta sa isang judge na "mas gusto" ng nag file... question is, legally.. and by protocol (Rules of Court<?>), ano ang proseso sa paglabas ng HDO? hearing pa rin ba??

    sa kabilang banda, nag file din sila GMA / FG ng petition sa SC to prevail upon lower courts against the filing of any charges related to election sabotage against them... granted na there's a chance na delaying game lang yun... what happens... kung nag rule agad lower court kahit may pending issue na sa SC... will that be again a stalemate between the lower court and the SC?
    1. The RTC can't issue an HDO motu propio. The prosecution must file a motion for one to be issued. Ordinarily, you don't wait for the arraignment before asking for an HDO since this would mean that the accused can opt to leave the country before he is brought to court to enter a plea.

    2. The raffle is conducted in the office of the Executive Judge of the RTC where the case is pending, and the parties (meaning the prosecution and the accused) may be present when the raffle is done so it will be difficult to "choose" the judge who will hear the case.

    3. On GMA and FG's petitions with the SC to prevent filing of a criminal case, I think it'll be dismissed as it is premature. The filing of a criminal case does not equate to their guilt or conviction.
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    November 18th, 2011 03:36 PM #95
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Yun lower court na masusunod, dahil ang TRO sa SC eh about yun circular 41 ba yun ng DOJ lang...
    yep! kumbaga sa chess eh different game naman...

    yun TRO eh para sa WLO ng DOJ while yun HDO eh dahil sa election fraud case..

    mukhang planado talaga ang paglipad ng mga Arrovos.... nauna na si mikey kahapon.... mukhang babrasuhin naman ni GMA at FG yun sa kanila ngayon.... mukhang mababawasan ang itlog ni topacio! ouch! :D
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    November 18th, 2011 03:42 PM #96
    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    1. The RTC can't issue an HDO motu propio. The prosecution must file a motion for one to be issued. Ordinarily, you don't wait for the arraignment before asking for an HDO since this would mean that the accused can opt to leave the country before he is brought to court to enter a plea.

    2. The raffle is conducted in the office of the Executive Judge of the RTC where the case is pending, and the parties (meaning the prosecution and the accused) may be present when the raffle is done so it will be difficult to "choose" the judge who will hear the case.

    3. On GMA and FG's petitions with the SC to prevent filing of a criminal case, I think it'll be dismissed as it is premature. The filing of a criminal case does not equate to their guilt or conviction.
    so the only way is issue Warrant of Arrest ? to prevent them from leaving
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    November 18th, 2011 03:42 PM #97
    SolGen Cadiz says the WLO stays since the situation has changed with the filing of the Election Sabotage case at the Pasay RTC. The TRO of the SC is for another case/WLO...
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    November 18th, 2011 03:46 PM #98
    Screw the rules, who follows it anyway in this banana republic. Why don't they just send in a marine battalion and haul them away for immediate execution...
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    November 18th, 2011 03:47 PM #99
    parang PBA ah! last 2 minutes tapos dikit ang score! hehehe! waiting for updates....
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    November 18th, 2011 04:17 PM #100
    ang sabi eh hindi daw pwede mag issue agad ng HDO ang RTC.
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