De Lima order to hold Arroyo is it unconstitutional ?

[jansky]

uy di ako maka GMA ha .. pero kung pagbabasehan ang law ano nga ba ang tama

sana kasi noon pa nag file ng kaso para di nakahanap ng butas si GMA ngayon

pero up to now wla pa formal na kaso na naisampa.


ngayon mas mataas ba si De Lima kaysa sa SC?

just asking peeepzz.. mga lawyer dyan labas labas na kayo para maliwanagan

[robot.sonic]

sabi ni de lima di pa nila nakukuha officially yung TRO announcement ng SC. parang tama lang.

[shadow]

kasing dami ng lawyers ang interpretation sa batas...

kung hinde si Corona sa mga tuta ni GMA ang nasa SC..pwede..kaso wala ng credibility ang SC...

[Monseratto]

May clause na "immediate and executory" sa Supreme Court TRO. De Lima interpretation is the Supreme Court must listen to her oral argument/pleading before she understands what "immediate and executory" means... Its like making an argument when the referee already made a decision.

[shadow]

^tama naman eh. bakit pa magkaroon ng oral arguments eh para ano pa? why don;t SC listen first doon sa oral arguments ng both sides before rendering a decision...??? alam na!!!

saka sus naman ang dami daming ng lumabas na TRO from CA, SC etc..pero laging sinasabi ng mga lawyers na hanggat walang final rulings eh hinde pa executory..meron pang MR etc...tapos ngayon biglang mababago...depende talaga ang interpretataion ng law kung kanino in favor...

corona+GMA+SC=0 Delima+Penoy+executive=1 next

[uls]

wala na kwenta supreme court

wala na credibility

you can get away with not obeying SC decisions pala eh

so from here on every SC decision is only a suggestion, no need to comply

so lalo wala kwenta lahat ng courts lower than SC

yehey!

street justice nalang

gonna be good business for goons and hired killers

wala na kwenta ang law school

wala na kwenta ang lawyers

anarchy rules

[shadow]

then it's time for the SC to show who's in charge...kaya ba nila? pahuli na nila si De lima

ayun nagmamadaling mag special en banc bukas, pwede naman pala masmaaga eh,...if they just hold on to their decision after the oral arguments walang ganitong gulo...

they have themselves to blame...obvious kasi na tuta yun otso-otso ni GMA eh

busted tuloy SC na walang power... co equal branch ha...

pero maganda ngayon abangan, nag file ng cease and desist order sa SC sila GMA against DOJ and BI from stopping them to fly out...

maglalabas kaya ang SC or they have learned their lessons or susundin ba ng DOJ?

[CoDer]

uy di ako maka GMA ha .. pero kung pagbabasehan ang law ano nga ba ang tama

sana kasi noon pa nag file ng kaso para di nakahanap ng butas si GMA ngayon

pero up to now wla pa formal na kaso na naisampa.


ngayon mas mataas ba si De Lima kaysa sa SC?

just asking peeepzz.. mga lawyer dyan labas labas na kayo para maliwanagan

Problem is railroaded ang TRO. Wala atang oral argment if my memory serves me right. Correct me if I'm wrong.

All of those who voted in favor of the TRO are actually GMA's appointee. And Corona???

[creepy]

The objectionable part of the SC's move is that they issued a TRO that may cause irreparable injury to the Filipino people without listening to the arguments on both sides. The TRO will allow Arroyo to leave permanently.

Why didn't Corona and his Court cohorts rule on the constitutionality of the WLO first before allowing Arroyo to leave? To paraphrase a famous saying: There's no use closing the barn door when the horse has already bolted. Corona and his cohorts clearly want to allow the horse to bolt before they decide whether the barn door should be closed or not.

[Monseratto]

GMA is afterall publicly prejudged c/o PNoy vendetta. Remember that a GMA great escape is a BIG IF... In the PNOY's law, it is better to presume a crime yet to be commited, it is for GMA to prove otherwise. I wonder how will GMA look in orange w/ the kneck brace... and if PNoy will let her stay in a hospital arrest like ERAP.

[testament11]

Tama yun sinabi ni Escudero. Dapat talaga kinasuhan na nila noon yang si GMA para walang ligtas. Eh hindi pa naman nila kinakasuhan formally sa courts eh. Puro lang naman trial by publicity ang ating student council government. Ngayon, nakahanap ng bala si GMA laban sa kanila kaya watch out lang ngayon ang student council, lalo na si matabil-bil na madaldal na De Lima.

Nabasa ko rin sa FB ang post ni Atty. Raymond Fortun, na no matter what is the decision of the court, he as an officer of the law should abide to it. Hindi na question dito kung sino nagluklok sa SC, ang mahalaga dito, sundin ang decision.

SC > DOJ

Kaso...

De Lima > SC?

:hammer:

[jansky]

pero sa ginagawa ni De Lima pde daw mag file ng political asylum si GMA sa ibang bansa



From Atty. Raymond Fortun

I never liked the Arroyo's. They trumped up the charges against Erap so they can seize power illegally. People don't know this, but the Erap camp was told that he would be convicted and THEN pardoned --- in OCTOBER 2003 or more than 3 years before he was IN FACT convicted and pardoned. Incidentally, all those justices (except 1) who convicted him were appointed to the Supreme Court -- by Gloria Arroyo. *whistle whistle

But that being said, and with all due respect, i'm against De Lima's stand to defy the Supreme Court order to allow GMA to leave. De Lima is a lawyer, an 'officer of the Court', and she is bound under her lawyer's oath to give due respect to the Court and be an instrument for people to respect the Court -- even if the latter is (in her opinion) wrong.

Law students nowadays are learning how erroneous the Supreme Court was in declaring that Erap had "constructively resigned" (a non-existent ground in our Constitution to remove a sitting President) in 2001 and legitimized GMA's reign. But you did not see me ranting and raving about the injustice. The most that i said in interviews was, "I have a contrary opinion about the issue, but i am an officer of the court so i am duty-bound to respect the Court's order."

As the Erap illegal ouster has created a monster that is GMA, the De Lima defiance of the Supreme Court may create a bigger monster -- A POSSIBLE ANARCHY WHEN PEOPLE START THINKING THAT THEY CAN DEFY COURT ORDERS AND STILL GET AWAY WITH IT.

[uls]

As the Erap illegal ouster has created a monster that is GMA, the De Lima defiance of the Supreme Court may create a bigger monster -- A POSSIBLE ANARCHY WHEN PEOPLE START THINKING THAT THEY CAN DEFY COURT ORDERS AND STILL GET AWAY WITH IT.

like me said:

wala na kwenta supreme court

wala na credibility

you can get away with not obeying SC decisions pala eh

so from here on every SC decision is only a suggestion, no need to comply

so lalo wala kwenta lahat ng courts lower than SC

yehey!

street justice nalang

gonna be good business for goons and hired killers

wala na kwenta ang law school

wala na kwenta ang lawyers

anarchy rules

[niwde11]

pero sa ginagawa ni De Lima pde daw mag file ng political asylum si GMA sa ibang bansa



From Atty. Raymond Fortun

I never liked the Arroyo's. They trumped up the charges against Erap so they can seize power illegally. People don't know this, but the Erap camp was told that he would be convicted and THEN pardoned --- in OCTOBER 2003 or more than 3 years before he was IN FACT convicted and pardoned. Incidentally, all those justices (except 1) who convicted him were appointed to the Supreme Court -- by Gloria Arroyo. *whistle whistle

But that being said, and with all due respect, i'm against De Lima's stand to defy the Supreme Court order to allow GMA to leave. De Lima is a lawyer, an 'officer of the Court', and she is bound under her lawyer's oath to give due respect to the Court and be an instrument for people to respect the Court -- even if the latter is (in her opinion) wrong.

Law students nowadays are learning how erroneous the Supreme Court was in declaring that Erap had "constructively resigned" (a non-existent ground in our Constitution to remove a sitting President) in 2001 and legitimized GMA's reign. But you did not see me ranting and raving about the injustice. The most that i said in interviews was, "I have a contrary opinion about the issue, but i am an officer of the court so i am duty-bound to respect the Court's order."

As the Erap illegal ouster has created a monster that is GMA, the De Lima defiance of the Supreme Court may create a bigger monster -- A POSSIBLE ANARCHY WHEN PEOPLE START THINKING THAT THEY CAN DEFY COURT ORDERS AND STILL GET AWAY WITH IT.

i am also not a fan of you atty fortun but i have to agree with you just like with ping and chiz.

you cannot broadcast to the media na mapapakulong mo si GMA kung under investigation pa or di pa airtight ang laban. btw,, one of the plunder cases was dismissed. medyo yun din ang pinakaweak. tingnan mo sila gma sila sila lang ang nakakaalam na me macoconvict si erap at mapapardon. mga di pa dapat sabihin e broadcast na. tapos pa natanso sasabihin bias ang SC. when ba naging fair ang SC. but we need an SC to be the final arbiter of the land. and besides they cannot enforce, they just interpret the law.

kitang kita naman sa pananalita ng mga magagaling ng senador ping at chiz. me kalaban sila sa popularidad next election. si media conscious de lima. de lima is riding the bandwagon na gustong sumikat at the expense of a corrupt official. ilan ba ang na-elect last election na ang tanging ginawa e maging anti-GMA at wala namang sinabing gagawin para umakyat ang bansa natin.

btw, di naman tayo constitutionalists so wag na tayo mag marunong kung constitution ang pag uusapan. heheheh

[shadow]

ang tingin ko they are not yet filing the case dahil they are trying to make it airtight. you're not gonna file a case just for the sake of filing. mababasura rin lang kaagad ng korte kung hinde airtight...saka meorn ako nabasa ewan ko sino nagsabi before xmas naka file na yan

[oliver1013]

Ayaw nila hilaw, baka ma Vizconde, kaso tong mga Arroyo mautak din iniikuatan ang proseso at nagpapaawa.. Tapos may mga tanga naman na kumakagat

[vinj]

ang tingin ko they are not yet filing the case dahil they are trying to make it airtight. you're not gonna file a case just for the sake of filing. mababasura rin lang kaagad ng korte kung hinde airtight...saka meorn ako nabasa ewan ko sino nagsabi before xmas naka file na yan

I have the same sentiments... baka ma-Oliver Lozano sila. File ng file, butas butas naman.

[ChunkyLover]

dapat saatin "guilty, until proven innocent" hekhekhek

[jansky]

hahaha.. pabilisan na lang
kung ganyan sana noon pa di walang ganitong nangyari


http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/11...tage-case-horn


ito d best

Horn alleged some lawmakers were threatened that their pork barrel will be cut if they will not sign the resolution.

[shadow]

hahaha.. pabilisan na lang
kung ganyan sana noon pa di walang ganitong nangyari

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/11...tage-case-horn

ito d best

Horn alleged some lawmakers were threatened that their pork barrel will be cut if they will not sign the resolution.

^ironic lahat yan ginawa din nila and they are now saying Mali ganyan? Nagkaroon na ng blue print and penoy admin sa mga dapat gawin harassment Ginagaya lang nila yun ginagawa ng admin ni GMA...

As for the pork barrel ganun din ginawa nila nun nagkaroon ng impeachment...hehehe what goes around, comes around