Plug (pasak) then Patch (tapal) on tire?

[uls]

as long as hindi gagalaw ung kotse (parking brake, wheel chocks) safe gamitin ung jack

ilan minuto lang naman mag palit ng gulong

kung magpapalit ng brake pads, suspension parts dun gagamitin ang jack stand

[oj88]

i have a pair of wooden dos-por-cuatros in my rear trunk.
very useful, especially when the surface in question is not perfectly flat.

Toyota included a folding metal wheel chock as part of the toolkit back in the day. If it's still being included, it's probably on selected cars only.

[k_leos]

my apologies for posting this,

you've owned a car for six years now,...
you should youtube for videos on how to change a flat tyre.

2 days ago kasi when I first tried to use the torque wrench. I tried to turn it until it can freely run. Kala ko same as torque screw driver. When you use a torque screw driver and it reaches let's say 50 kn.meter torque. Ma turn na freely yun screw driver. Pero hindi pala ganun yun torque wrench. So baka na over tighten ko tire nuts.

Also ang nangyari is nag move yun car when using the torque wrench. So I was worried

1. Baka na over tighten ko 2 days ago the nuts to say 180 kn. meter. (120 kn.meter ang nasa manual).

2. Second is if I'd change the tire to reserva. Worried baka ma tangal yun jack. so want to know if necessary ang jack stand.

3. I have to loan money just to buy the 4 tires. I'm broke na because of the pandemic. Wala business for 6 months. Have to pay pa madami unpaid loans. Tapus padating pa Omicron na ito. Hay.

4. Lastly, bukas if the technician at any tire service center will use impact wrench either on 2nd pasak repair or installation of 4 new tires. It will take me effort to tell him to use my torque wrench. So I have to know exactly ano torques ng hydraulic impact wrench so have the reasons and justification to confront any technician/vulganizer. I tried to google yesterday pero wala ako mahanap na exact torque of the impact wrench. Hence I posted again today to ask some critical information before tomorrow.

[uls]

ayaw gamitin ang sasakyan kasi pasak was used to repair a tire

takot mag palit ng reserba kasi baka ma-over tighten ang nuts

takot mag palit ng reserba kasi baka matumba ang jack

[dr. d]

ayaw gamitin ang sasakyan kasi pasak was used to repair a tire

takot mag palit ng reserba kasi baka ma-over tighten ang nuts

takot mag palit ng reserba kasi baka matumba ang jack

forgiveness, but...
sounds like kags.
kahit anong suggestion from others,
may counter-sagot.

[dr. d]

2 days ago kasi when I first tried to use the torque wrench. I tried to turn it until it can freely run. Kala ko same as torque screw driver. When you use a torque screw driver and it reaches let's say 50 kn.meter torque. Ma turn na freely yun screw driver. Pero hindi pala ganun yun torque wrench. So baka na over tighten ko tire nuts.

Also ang nangyari is nag move yun car when using the torque wrench. So I was worried

1. Baka na over tighten ko 2 days ago the nuts to say 180 kn. meter. (120 kn.meter ang nasa manual).

2. Second is if I'd change the tire to reserva. Worried baka ma tangal yun jack. so want to know if necessary ang jack stand.

3. I have to loan money just to buy the 4 tires. I'm broke na because of the pandemic. Wala business for 6 months. Have to pay pa madami unpaid loans. Tapus padating pa Omicron na ito. Hay.

4. Lastly, bukas if the technician at any tire service center will use impact wrench either on 2nd pasak repair or installation of 4 new tires. It will take me effort to tell him to use my torque wrench. So I have to know exactly ano torques ng hydraulic impact wrench so have the reasons and justification to confront any technician/vulganizer. I tried to google yesterday pero wala ako mahanap na exact torque of the impact wrench. Hence I posted again today to ask some critical information before tomorrow.

in my more than 30 years of car ownership and self-maintenance and repair,
i have never used a torque wretch on my wheels.
and never has any of them fallen off or died or fractured from over-tightening.

well, once...
i forgot to tighten my wheel after replacing it.
after a few meters... "what is that funny sound...?"
heh heh.

[gearhead000]

forgiveness, but...
sounds like kags.
kahit anong suggestion from others,
may counter-sagot.

doc, na-sense mo rin pala yung "kags vibe"?

only thing is, it seems they're antithesis of each other - one having lots of questions, the other having all the answers, and then some.

[dr. d]

doc, na-sense mo rin pala yung "kags vibe"?

"for a human? it was quite.. noticeable."
- said kirk, while conversing with sarek.

[dr. d]

Toyota included a folding metal wheel chock as part of the toolkit back in the day. If it's still being included, it's probably on selected cars only.

cool!
none of our toyotas has that gadget.
i wonder, is it available for sale in the casa?

maganda yung nakikita sa movies na ginagamit sa small plane...
two pieces of chucks, joined to each other by a short length of stout rope. one pull and both chucks are off.

[dr. d]

Another concern. Naka experience kayo na using the car included screw jack and na fall yun car while using changing tire (at street or at time when changing spare tires for example)? I'm justifying whether I should buy a jack stand or puwede na gamit yun screw car jack for very rare time you will change a tire.

lifting a car, an alligator jack is much easier to use than a scissors jack or a bottle jack, provided it fits your working situation.
by all means, buy one if you wish.
bili ka na rin ng jack stands, if your car intends to get jacked up for considerable lengths of time.

[boybi]

Magsama nalang lagi ng mekaniko every time gagamitin kotse.

Dala nya dapat lahat ng tools.

[uls]

Magsama nalang lagi ng mekaniko every time gagamitin kotse.

Dala nya dapat lahat ng tools.

may support vehicle nakasunod everytime lumabas

driver/mechanic + helper

talyer-on-wheels

[k_leos]

ayaw gamitin ang sasakyan kasi pasak was used to repair a tire

takot mag palit ng reserba kasi baka ma-over tighten ang nuts

takot mag palit ng reserba kasi baka matumba ang jack

I'll explain the logic.

if I researched last Dec 28 before going to thse kamuning service center and knew bawal lagay ng oil yung hole ng pasak. Ma stop ko sana procedure and go to other shop with patch and save 30,000 for all 4 tires change tomorrow. Utang ko pa naman. I still have to pay for unpaid credit card, pay city hall business tax, pay Psbank flexiloan, etc.

Also I read in the manual the following that the tire nuts must be torqued at 120 newton.meter



I bought the following torque wrench at lazada.



Very important ang torque ng nut kasi you don't want to under tighten or over tighten it. If pa change ko all 4 tires bukas, ayaw ko ma overtighten nila using hydraulic impact wrench. And making me spend another round for repair of all the nuts and bolts. That's why I need to know ano torque using such tool. If off. Plan ko bigay io yun torque wrench ko sa vulganizer and let them use it to tighten the nuts.

And until now. Wala pa nag suggest saan meron experienced na mechanic/vulganizer who can install the mushroom patch. That's why since 6 years na rin tires. Palit ko na all tires even mag utang pa ako. I regret tagala I didn't research bawal pasak with oil dati. So most important tomorrow or next week is sure tama na torque sa nuts gamit para hindi ma damage yun bolt section ng wheel, kasi wala na ako budget. Parang meron pa omicron isa ko family member so I don't know how much more to loan. Yun lang. Thanks for all the help. I won't post anymore. After they put the tires. I have to go back to making a living so mabayad ko all utang.

(the following is reference of the importance of proper torques of tyre nuts

Retorquing Lug Nuts After You’ve Had Your Tires Replaced or Removed Is Crucial - News | South Hanover Automotive Tire Pros in Hanover, PA, Spring Grove, PA, and McSherrystown, PA

Lug nuts keep a wheel securely attached to the hub—which means they are an extremely important component of a vehicle. However, lug nuts can only do their job correctly if a tire technician applies the proper amount of torque to them after tires are replaced or removed. Here are some general tips on torquing and retorquing:

Torque is the amount of force someone applies to a lug nut when they’re tightening it. It is generally listed as a measurement known as pound-feet.

If lug nuts are improperly tightened, they can cause serious problems, including distorting the stud, damaging brakes, and losing a wheel.

Lug nuts must be torqued to the manufacturer’s recommended values, and they must be re-torqued to those values after driving approximately 50 to 100 miles on your new tires after the tire service.
Both under and over tightening can be dangerous. Different vehicles require different amounts of torque in order to properly tighten their lug nuts without causing any damage.

To tighten lug nuts correctly, a torque wrench is required. The torque wrench should be set to half of the required torque at first, and the lug nuts should be tightened using this setting. When all of the lug nuts are tightened, the vehicle should be lowered completely, and the lug nuts can then be tightened to the specified torque.

Every driver should know the proper amount of torque for their specific vehicle—it’s listed in your owner’s manual.

Ensure the lug nuts are checked often to keep them at this measurement. The lug nuts on a wheel must be tightened in a specific order to provide the proper torque. A wheel with five or ten lug nuts is tightened in a star-shaped pattern, while one with only four lug nuts makes an X shape.

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[dr. d]

I'll explain the logic.

if I researched last Dec 28 before going to thse kamuning service center and knew bawal lagay ng oil yung hole ng pasak. Ma stop ko sana procedure and go to other shop with patch and save 30,000 for all 4 tires change tomorrow. Utang ko pa naman. I still have to pay for unpaid credit card, pay city hall business tax, pay Psbank flexiloan, etc.

Also I read in the manual the following that the tire nuts must be torqued at 120 newton.meter



I bought the following torque wrench at lazada.



Very important ang torque ng nut kasi you don't want to under tighten or over tighten it. If pa change ko all 4 tires bukas, ayaw ko ma overtighten nila using hydraulic impact wrench. And making me spend another round for repair of all the nuts and bolts. That's why I need to know ano torque using such tool. If off. Plan ko bigay io yun torque wrench ko sa vulganizer and let them use it to tighten the nuts.

And until now. Wala pa nag suggest saan meron experienced na mechanic/vulganizer who can install the mushroom patch. That's why since 6 years na rin tires. Palit ko na all tires even mag utang pa ako. I regret tagala I didn't research bawal pasak with oil dati. So most important tomorrow or next week is sure tama na torque sa nuts gamit para hindi ma damage yun bolt section ng wheel, kasi wala na ako budget. Parang meron pa omicron isa ko family member so I don't know how much more to loan. Yun lang. Thanks for all the help. I won't post anymore. After they put the tires. I have to go back to making a living so mabayad ko all utang.

may your troubled soul finally find some rest, after replacing those four tyres.

[uls]

walang sumasagot tungkol sa mushroom patch coz karamihan dito di naka gamit niyan

coz most people here do not overthink pasak or patch sa gulong nila

ang importante di na sumisingaw

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most of us here aren't so OC (or neurotic i'm not sure what term to use) that we need to see nuts tightened with a torque wrench para magkaroon ng peace of mind

most of us here are content seeing nuts tightened with ordinary tire wrench + extension (tubo)

we don't lose sleep over that

[dr. d]

most of us here aren't so OC (or neurotic i'm not sure what term to use) that we need to see nuts tightened with a torque wrench para magkaroon ng peace of mind

most of us here are content seeing nuts tightened with ordinary tire wrench + extension (tubo)

we don't lose sleep over that

once, i had my tyre serviced.
the worker did it, then tightened the lugs using the ordinary cross-wretch, without my observing him.
"ulitin mo ang pag-higpit, bossing. madalas kasi ako mag-slex."
inulit niya.
his supervisor had no choice but to agree.

we each have our little quirks, kahit papano.
heh heh.


another time naman,
the tyre man used a breaker bar (extension bar) with the cross-wretch, to tighten the lug nuts..
the next time i had to remove that wheel,
hirap na hirap kaming luwagan!
my rule of thumb from then on, "no more breaker bars when tightening".
heh heh.

[shadow]

K.I.S.S.


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[kagalingan]

kleo,

mukhang hindi ka na nakakatulog jan magnewnew year na stress na stress ka. Dalhin mo muna doon sa sinabi ko 150 lang sedan 200 ata 250 pag monstero / fortuner size gulong.

masyado na advance mga gulong. Sa kotse ko ngayon litaw na alambre ginagamit ko pa din. City driving naman ako.

6years ago nga bumiyak na portion gulong dinadrive ko pa din habang hindi nagfaflat. Ganyan ako kakuripot hahaha!!!!

Wag ka muna bumili bagong gulong. Ipacheck mo sa vulcanizing dahil sa dami ng experience alam nila kung tatagal or risky na.

kleo,

last post ko dito above dec31. Dapat motto mo sa kotse drive & forget. Sobra advance ng gulong. Kita mo nga suggestion ko vulcanizing complete gamit nasa 150pesos patch. Tindahan ng gulong yun. Sa ncr ewan ko kung meron pa mas mumura jan eh maayos ang store. Yung may,-ari ang angas ng gulong kaso i look down pag diesel.

wag mo gayahin yung mga baliw na baliw sa kotse example magpakarga fuel station tapos lalabas kotse pupunta sa harap tapos parang timang sinisipat-sipat hahaha!!!!

[dr. d]

complete gamit?
all you need is the dumidikit na patch, the horizontal half-drum filled with water, and the tyre-removing equipment/machine.

[kagalingan]

^
yun nga doc, tinatanggal gulong sa mags yung pinapaikot. For just 150pesos in true qc.