Nissan Patrol GU/Y61 Thread

[maresoice]

[SIZE=3]good day mga patrol gurus,

my 2001 president edition patrol just hit the 160t km mark.
or the 40t km preventive maintenance. Casa prices for this kind of service cost me an arm. Since i got my patrol 2nd hand and out of warranty. I decided to bring my patrol to a nearby auto shop. Just want to be very sure what kind and volume of fluids i would replace.

1. coolant and distilled water what brand and how many?
2. break fluids.?
3. engine oil. (15w-40 mineral oil?)
4. atf (auto tranny fluid) dexteron III ?
5. differential fluids?


your help is greatly appreciated. thanks in advance.
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[OTEP]

I don't have the owner's manual with me right now but I'll do my best. Check your owner's manual. It has the answer to all of your queries.

1. Any reputable, ethelyne-glycol based coolant will work. Concentrated coolants can be mixed 50/50 with distilled drinking water or slightly in favor of water. Fully draining the system requires the removal of some water plugs on the engine block. The location of these plugs are illustrated in your manual.

2. DOT3 or DOT4 brake fluid from a sealed container. There is no prescribed amount. The system must be filled.

[hitomi]

hi sirs,
nagsearch po ako pero kaunti lang nakita kong feedback tungkol sa mga mas lumang patrol, Y60 ata yun? yung hindi high-roofed, 1990-1992.

Maganda po ba yung ganung patrol? running costs-wise?
meron sa tiskot ads e, mukhang ok.

[enawdski]

Good pm again sirs, I inquired about the MAF sensor/ check engine light a few pages back of this thread. And finally, I convinced my dad to finally go to the casa and hook the patrol up with the CONSULT-II.

Here is our tale...

Backgrounder:
We reside in Quezon province, in the near vicinity of Villa Escudero…
The unit is a 2001 Nissan Patrol 3.0 M/T…

Date: March 07, 2007
Total Expense: P 16,000++

We went to Nissan Southwoods, Lipa City, to have engine checked since there is a problem with the check engine light, it turns on when 3500rpm is reached and loss of torque is experienced. The service/maintenance area of Nissan Southwoods is operated by Rapide. So we went on to replace all the filters and the oil, and have the hoses of the turbo system check, so as to detect leaks, the service advisor “found” a leak and said that the cause of the grime below the intercooler is a busted/bulging hose connector (5K Pesos), they told us that cleaning the intercooler and replacing and tightening the hoses of the turbo system would do the trick, luckily the light went out, we went home thinking that our check engine light problem was solved… but after a day of driving, it went back this time the light goes on immediately after turning on the ignition.

Date: March 09, 2007

We returned the unit to Nissan Southwoods Lipa to have the unit check…again… After 30 mins of tinkering and re-cleaning… they finally gave up and said the sensors are the culprit, they also told us that we must bring the unit to their main branch, Nissan Southwoods in Carmona, since the diagnosis tool (CONSULT-II) that would point out the busted sensor is located there.

Date: March 12, 2007

The first thing I did when I woke up was to call up Nissan Southwoods in Carmona to inquire the price and availability of the MAF sensor (since I was advised by fellow tsikoteers and really believe that this the culprit why the check engine light turns on), a sales staff answered the phone and told me that yes they have the MAF sensor and it costs P8,760. I also asked if the CONSULT-II is in their possession, since I was told that all Nissan dealers share the use of this gadget, they told me that it is with Westgate in Alabang, but they are willing to get it if I would be bringing our unit for diagnosis. I told them I would, and we will be there before lunch time.

We arrive in Carmona at about 11pm, CONSULT-II was hooked up with the Patrol w/c confirmed that the MAF sensor is busted, and should be replaced.

But here is another side of the story, our visit in Nissan Southwoods in Carmona produced disappointment, especially with my dad, after opening the bonnet, and seeing the condition of the engine, the mechanic quickly noted/advised that our unit should be sold immediately after we replaced the sensor, since there is already a leak in the turbo system (both snail and inter cooler), and it will definitely cause us headaches...to qoute him...(pagkakita palang sa engine)... "Tsk,tsk,tsk…Sir pagkapalit nyo nitong sensor, ibenta nyo na kasi, sabog na ang turbo!"---very "encouraging" remark coming from a "service advisor/mechanic"!!!(It's like going to a hospital and the doctor tells you that "we have to amputate your leg but you're gonna die anyway!)Tough luck!---They could at least gave us or suggested some options so that the problem with the turbo system be remedied... but they gave none and instead advised us to sell our Patrol. So, I ask them if the turbo can be repaired/cleaned, and they said "Ndi na sir yan marerepair… mahirap sir yan… sakit nalang ng ulo...(very vague answers coming from a nissan/rapide "mechanic"... I assumed rapide din yung mga tao sa Nissan Southwoods in Carmona, since all their service area both in San Pablo City and Lipa City are operated by rapide). With the comments and replies I got, I know there and then that I came to the wrong place and maybe they are not trained to service/repair turbo systems...

With my dad, discouraged and I, disappointed... since noone in the service area offered possible solutions with our turbo system (and keeps on whining about the flaws of our engine, and how big headache it would become, if we wouldn’t let go of the unit after the “temporary patch”). We still opted to replace the sensor, thinking that we will seek a turbo system speacialist and ask for a second opinion… To my surprise the service advisor told us that it would cost P31,000, for the whole assembly (I was beginning lose my temper by this time) I told him that only the sensor is to be replaced, and we don’t need the whole assembly, surprised by my answer, he went on to reason out that “ dati kasi sir nung nag palit kami, sira na rin yung assembly kaya ganun din ang binigay kong price sa inyo, check ko sir kung magkano yung sensor…sabay alis.” (sira yung assembly eh plastic top intake cover yun, pano masisira agad-agad yun, …by this time 4 mechanics are looking at the engine and still goes on with their “discouraging remarks”) After 10 mins, the SA came back and told us that the sensor costs P8,800(may mark-up na 40 pesos, pang yosi siguro… ) but unfortunately they have none on stock!!! HA??!!! I told him that before we went there, I called their parts department to check for availability of the sensor, and their staff replied the affirmative, and now they are telling me there is none on stock!!!! The SA looked shocked and told me, “Wait lang sir, check ko lang po…” and he never returned… It was his mechanic that told us that they have none on stock.

So I told my dad that we should leave because the people in that place is really getting into my nerves… but we cannot since we thought that we will be needing a gate pass to present to the guard, so we waited for almost 15mins, and I decided to walk around the service area. I found our “very accommodating” SA talking to another client(he also saw me by this time)… I waited, because I do not want to butt-in in their conversation, but after waiting for almost 10mins, I lost my temper…I told him…”Alis na kami, wala pala naman kayong stock…(still in a calm way)” He approached my dad and me and told us that if we want, he could order the sensor for us but we should give a down payment…(to hell with him!!!!) I said, I will just call you if ever we decided to order the sensor… we left…
No way! You will never receive a single peso from us again!!! After the treatment your people showed us… NEVER!!!



So, sirs, I may be wrong to doubt their diagnosis…
I may have been too sensitive to the frank/discouraging remarks of their mechanics…
I may be biased and still believes that our turbo system can be repaired…
but I guess we deserve better and shouldn’t be treated the way we were treated yesterday…
options to solve our problem should have been laid out and explained before us…
talk of customer service and customer satisfaction huh?…

So again, I would want to seek your advice… anyone of you know how would I go about our problem? May ma rerecommend po ba kayong speacilist for Nissan Patrol turbo system?

Thank you in advance sirs!!!


OT: Pde rin yata to sa GoonSquad...

update:
a week later nakabili kami ng OEM Nissan MAF sensor sa taft for 6k++, may nakasabay pa kami SA from a Nissan Casa, bumibili din ng parts...
I inquired about I/C turbo cleaning/repair... sabi kaya nila dun(regular routine na daw sa kanila yun)... may OEM repair kit na nabibili dun din and it will take a day to clean and repair busted turbos...


as of today... ok na yung takbo ng patrol namin... MAF sensor lang talaga pinaltan... next year parepair/clean na namin yung IC turbo... palit shock absorber din siguro... 200k++ km and counting ang odometer...

(sorry for the very late update... ndi ako makalog-in sa tsikot due to technical difficulties... ngayon lang ulit ako naka access ng forums, nung na- launch yung car finder 2.0)

[Beefcake]

Congrats Enawdski! For getting out of the Nissan Southwoods robbery gang and getting your Patrol fixed with only the necessary repairs. Next time, sa Nissan Shaw ka na lang pagawa sir

[OTEP]

Congrats. When I visited Nissan Quezon Avenue, same thing as Nissan Southwoods din ang sinabi sakin.

I took the unit to Nissan Pasong tamo for the IC, intake, etc. cleaning. Nag-improve na takbo.

I cleaned the MAF myself based on advise from Nissanbayan's big boss vinj.

[enawdski]

salamat... i'll keep you posted for any problems and details na ma-experience ng 'trol namin...(sana wala naman...)

sabi rin nga pala dun sa shop na binilhan ko ng MAF sensor, be on the look out daw ako sa fuel injection pump ng patrol... kasi yun din daw unang bumibigay sa patrol... nagulat nga sya kasi 200k++ km na yung patrol, buti daw hindi pa kami nagkakaproblema sa injection pump. yung iba daw after 150k km nag kakaproblema na sa injection pump... well maybe because highway driving lagi kami, kasi nga sa province kami naka based... well sabi lang naman yun nung shop owner...

[wildthing]

....I cleaned the MAF myself based on advise from Nissanbayan's big boss vinj.

How do you clean the MAF? any DIY guide and pictures or link how to DIY it?

[enawdski]

How do you clean the MAF? any DIY guide and pictures or link how to DIY it?

eto bro..

http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/showt...t=cleaning+MAF

[boybi]

How do you clean the MAF? any DIY guide and pictures or link how to DIY it?

Just spray contact cleaner inside the MAF and it's done.

[wildthing]

thanks...iba lang ung screws ko parang star na may bilog sa gitna.

[OTEP]

Starscrew talaga ang MAF because it was intended to be 'tamper proof' hehehe.

Ask ko lang:

Ginamit ko kasi yung Patrol paakyat ng tagaytay via Talisay Batangas. Dun ako dumaan sa parang Kennon Road na kalye paakyat.

Pansin ko lang kailangan ko idownshift to first gear manually yung Patrol. If I leave it in Drive halos hindi makaakyat. Ganun ba talaga?

Parang ok naman ang power on level ground.

[wiretap_md]

That is what I observed also when I brought our patrol to Canyon Woods and Highlands dati. You need to bring the gear lever selector to first gear for power otherwise nasa second gear lang sya.

[OTEP]

Baka nga ganun lang siya talaga. Malinis naman ang MAF and ok naman ang power on level ground. Observe ko muna. hehehe. Lumampas kasi ang Sta. Rosa exit kaya napunta ako ng Talisay.

[Beefcake]

Sa akin hindi naman. Sa paahon dun sa Canyon Woods, I though mabibitin ako kung sa drive so I approached the incline on 1st gear. Kaso sobrang bagal ko and I was holding the traffic behind me, so I shifted to drive and hindi naman ako nabitin pataas. Same thing sa Highlands, been there last week and I went up the incline on drive.

On both occasions, air con was turned off dahil malamig naman yung hangin sa labas. I had 4 passengers dun sa Canyon Woods while mag isa lang ako dun sa paakyat sa Highlands.

[boybi]

Starscrew talaga ang MAF because it was intended to be 'tamper proof' hehehe.

Ask ko lang:

Ginamit ko kasi yung Patrol paakyat ng tagaytay via Talisay Batangas. Dun ako dumaan sa parang Kennon Road na kalye paakyat.

Pansin ko lang kailangan ko idownshift to first gear manually yung Patrol. If I leave it in Drive halos hindi makaakyat. Ganun ba talaga?

Parang ok naman ang power on level ground.

3.0li lang kasi ang GU Patrol and hindi kaya ng engine ang body especially sa inclines if hindi nag kick in ang turbo. Nung nag fun run tayo sa Tagaytay a few years back, di mo ba napansin na ang bagal ng convoy natin paakyat? Nasa bandang harapan kasi ako and hirap talaga yung patrol. Naglalaro ako between 1st and 2nd gear. Pag nasa 1st gear, sobrang bagal so I shift to 2nd gear, bigla naman mabibitin kaya balik 1st gear ulit Si Alfred yata ang nasa likod ko nun.

[RedHorse]

OT:

ah..

the fun run, the 1st and only.... when kaya ulit? he he

[Beefcake]

3.0li lang kasi ang GU Patrol and hindi kaya ng engine ang body especially sa inclines if hindi nag kick in ang turbo. Nung nag fun run tayo sa Tagaytay a few years back, di mo ba napansin na ang bagal ng convoy natin paakyat? Nasa bandang harapan kasi ako and hirap talaga yung patrol. Naglalaro ako between 1st and 2nd gear. Pag nasa 1st gear, sobrang bagal so I shift to 2nd gear, bigla naman mabibitin kaya balik 1st gear ulit Si Alfred yata ang nasa likod ko nun.

Di kaya ser Boybi dahil sa bigat nung ARB bumper mo tsaka sa 285x75x16 tires?

[vanquish]

Guys i'm new here and can't wait to own a patrol. I'm interested to buy a 2002 4x2, diesel, mileage is 76Tkm. What should i check or ask d seller to make sure the unit i'm buying is ok? It has a casa record. Thanks.

[bigeebabee]

Guys please help me on my patrol
problem is brake master bought a new one for 16k but lasted only for 3 days

Put a repair kit made in japan lasted only for less than a week
hydrobox seems to be ok

problem is brake pedal seems to be loose or malallim sometimes

TIA