Nissan Patrol GU/Y61 Thread

[4JGtootsie]

After our MAF sensor--Rapide problem I posted earlier, all's well with our patrol, but then disaster struck 3 weeks ago. Our patrol suddenly stopped and it gave us no chose but to tow it, since the engine wont start anymore. Diagnosis using CONSULT-II showed a "P6 Spill Valve" result. Further Google showed that it is related to the injection pump. We'll be bring the unit to UMC Pasong Tamo after the holy week for further diagnosis and for its eventual repair.

Has anyone of you experience this problem?
Has anyone here replaced their injection pump?
Is there any place I can bring our Patrol to "repair" the injection pump, or is it really due for replacement?
To those who have replace/repaired their injection pumps, can you please give me a rough estimate as to how much it would cost us?

TIA

You have a VP44 pump. Central Diesel Clinic has speciallization and test bench for it. PM Dieseldude.

[111prez]

I learned a lot in this forum. Please help me with this. I want to make the ride of my Patrol more comfortable. I already replaced the front shocks with Bilsteins, the rear are still stocks because I cannot find Bilsteins for the rear, out of stocks in speedlab. I was thinking of replacing the coil springs with a softer one to improve the ride, is this a right move? Do you know of any available aftermarket springs that would soften the ride of a Patrol? Where is it available? Thanks and more power.

i am using old man emu rear coil springs and shocks. check it out

[bwn]

hello patrol owners, recently we aquired a 2001 gu manual patrol. we use it everyday and drove it long distances already and everything seems fine. the problem is this: ever since we got it (about three months ago) coolant needs to be added, about half a tabo of water in a week (refilled in the reservoir), it seems minimal pero "modern cars" cars almost never need to be refilled withy coolant. and i cant seem to find any signs of leakage anywhere (new rad cap,clean hose ends,no signs of leaks), i tried to look everywhere under all engine conditions...any suggestions guys? thanks.

...while am here already might as well ask, when i turn off the engine, upon turning the ignition off there is a delay in the actual engine turning off, about a second, is this normal?

...and another thing, sometimes upon starting the engine(of course wait for plugs to heat) when it starts, parang kinikapos at mamamatay for a few seconds, then it idles ok na. other than that, the patrol is a nice ride....any thoughts on how to rectify these probs are greatly appreciated...THANKS GUYS.

[voltscastillo]

hello patrol owners, recently we aquired a 2001 gu manual patrol. we use it everyday and drove it long distances already and everything seems fine. the problem is this: ever since we got it (about three months ago) coolant needs to be added, about half a tabo of water in a week (refilled in the reservoir), it seems minimal pero "modern cars" cars almost never need to be refilled withy coolant. and i cant seem to find any signs of leakage anywhere (new rad cap,clean hose ends,no signs of leaks), i tried to look everywhere under all engine conditions...any suggestions guys? thanks.

...while am here already might as well ask, when i turn off the engine, upon turning the ignition off there is a delay in the actual engine turning off, about a second, is this normal?

...and another thing, sometimes upon starting the engine(of course wait for plugs to heat) when it starts, parang kinikapos at mamamatay for a few seconds, then it idles ok na. other than that, the patrol is a nice ride....any thoughts on how to rectify these probs are greatly appreciated...THANKS GUYS.

hello. i don't own a patrol but i did own a pajero diesel few years ago that had the same initial problems as yours.

if you're sure na walang leaks, you may want to invest on long life coolant so your coolant now (which could be just plain water) won't easily boil away. flush and refill. first few weeks after i refilled mine ganyan din kala ko may tagas, pero i think it's just air trapped in the radiator when i first flushed it. eventually the radiator burped it off and hindi na nagbawas.

the 4d56 diesel, especially the old ones, had a long rattle after you've killed the ignition. mine was a second, sometimes a bit more after being used on a long hot journey. i like to think of this as normal. perhaps a delay in the fuel pump.

after a cold night i usually had trouble either starting my diesel engine, or it would sputter first few seconds to a minute of driving. mine had white smoke pa nga eh. pinned that problem down to worn glowplugs not igniting the compresed fuel/air. replaced the glowplugs, problem went away.

[Sheep]

i just got a diesel super safari a few weeks back... its has just clocked approx. 600kms
i just wanted to ask patrol gurus here; is it normal for the housing of the air filter to feel oily to touch?

on my other diesel rigs this usually does not happen unless if i install a finer filter which is an oil type air filter

thanks in advance.

[bwn]

volts, thanks for the reply, re the sometimes "kinakapos" upon start up, like you said, learned also from someone its probably the glow plugs, one could be dead or something...il deal with it as soon as i can.

more inquiry guys, i had gas engines all my life, this i the first time i had a diesel, of course which is the patrols'. i know diesels here in the phil have a tendency to smoke for whatever reasons, my paulit ulit question is that what are the basic things to do to lessen the black smoke? thanks again.

[boybi]

bwn, the 'kinakapos' upon initial startup in the morning may be due to a dirty fuel filter. When was the last time your fuel filters were replaced?

The delay in the shutting off of the engine is common to Patrols. This may be because it is drive-by-wire, hence, the signal from the ignition switch will have to be processed first by the ECU, and then sent to the engine to be shut off.

As for your black smoke question, don't worry about this. The Patrol is not a smoke belcher. It will only emit black smoke when something is not functioning properly, like a broken MAF sensor.

[boybi]

i just got a diesel super safari a few weeks back... its has just clocked approx. 600kms
i just wanted to ask patrol gurus here; is it normal for the housing of the air filter to feel oily to touch?

on my other diesel rigs this usually does not happen unless if i install a finer filter which is an oil type air filter

thanks in advance.

Sheep, congrats on your new Patrol!

Normal lang yang oily ang filter housing. Wet type filter ang gamit ng Patrol, though not as wet as a finer filter. And don't ever put a finer filter in your Patrol, it would destroy the MAF sensor. Ganyan nangyari sa akin.

[Sheep]

Thanks for the info...new patrol owner yes but only up to this week....

will update you guys early next week
XXXXXXXXX XXXXXX corp. already cooked me up a sweet deal
we agreed that everything would be settled this week as long as i keep my mouth shut

if not just read goon squad by monday

[swordsman]

Have gone to Nissan UMC, Pasong Tamo branch last week for the 50k PMS. The guys there did wonders to my Troll... Have noticed a much silent engine and some minor kalampags gone. Probably due to the tightening of some suspension parts.

Hi, approximately how much were you charged for the 50K PMS in Nissan UMC Pasong Tamo? I'm nearing the 50K mark and would just take my Patrol to Nissan Pasong Tamo. Nearer sana Nissan Shaw, but then mukhang mas mahusay gumawa sa Pasong Tamo.

[jikjik]

Good day patrol gurus.

I would like to ask for some tips/ things to look in buying a patrol. Right now I'm targeting a 2002 Patrol M/T - Mileage is around 80Km.

TIA.

[boybi]

Test drive it. Check for oil leaks around the engine.

[jikjik]

Test drive it. Check for oil leaks around the engine.

Thanks for the tip.
Anyone here knows how much is the current market price value - 2002 Patro M/Tl?

[boybi]

Should be around 800-900K, depending on the condition of the vehicle.

[johnqpublic318]

Anybody here with the V8 patrol super safari?

Whats the fuel consumption of the V8 super safari?

Would the gas version, with its higher horsepower and torque, perform significantly more superior than the diesel version in terms of speed, acceleration, and smoothness?

Would the resale value of the gas version super safari be much lower than the diesel version?

The TB48 is an inline-6 and superior to the ZD30 diesel in terms of power and torque... We've been playing around with one at the Service Center. I feel that it's still short on power because there's really no such thing as too much hp. The Y61 with the TB48 has a governed speed of around 205kph. It has a very restrictive central muffler that just begs to be removed. Since it's backed by a 5-sp auto unlike the 4-sp auto behind the diesel, axle gears are a wimpy 3.55. The 1st gear of the 5sp auto is lower than then 1st gear of the 4sp auto so Nissan thought 3.55s would do. It does for most people but we want to overtake Honda Civics and burn rubber.
Ok on the autobahn but not the best ratio to maximize the torque of the 4.8-liter TB48. Hence, we re-geared to 4.375 and dropped an ARB locker in for good measure. Dropping 4.375 gears behind the 5-sp auto is like installing 4.88s on units with 4-sp autos. The change in acceleration is just night-and-day with the new low gears but it also creates a 23% speedo error. This is how we saw 205kph on the speedo that I repeated it 4 times on the highway. The ECU abruptly cuts power power at an indicated 205kph but, in reality, we were only going 165kph.

A 205 kph limit on a slightly lifted Patrol is fine if we were really going that fast. Shutting the fun at only 165kph is just plain rude.

Now for exhaust mods and speed-limiter removal.... If we can't correct the speedo then might as well remove the governor. Any ideas?

[Beefcake]

Hi, approximately how much were you charged for the 50K PMS in Nissan UMC Pasong Tamo? I'm nearing the 50K mark and would just take my Patrol to Nissan Pasong Tamo. Nearer sana Nissan Shaw, but then mukhang mas mahusay gumawa sa Pasong Tamo.

Hi Swordsman, sorry it took a while for me to reply. Been relying on the NPCP forum for infor recently. I think it cost me close to 8k, if I'm not mistaken. I could not find the receipts na eh

[JS900]

Hi new super safari owner here. Got a diesel A/T one month ago. Had my 1k PMS at Quezon Ave.

Question lang, normal lang ba na may usok na konting white kahit naka idle lang (sa fieldmaster ko kasi dati walang ganito)? And pag biglaang medyo napadiin sa accel umuusok ng medyo may amount. Before kasi ng PMS wala akong napansin na usok eh.

By the way, shell helix ang nilagay nilang oil. And Petron Diesel ang kinakarga ko.

Kung mas heavy duti na mineral oil kaya ipalagay ko next PMS mawawala kaya yung unwanted usok? Nagbasa-basa kasi ako nalaman ko na yung Shell Helix eh entry-level lang na oil.

Around 2,700 kms na siya now.

Salamat!

[swordsman]

Hi Swordsman, sorry it took a while for me to reply. Been relying on the NPCP forum for infor recently. I think it cost me close to 8k, if I'm not mistaken. I could not find the receipts na eh

Hey thanks! I'm subscribed to NPCP egroup as well so i read all the mails, just can't send mail kasi sa office. Anyway, will sched na soon my 50K PMS.

[inoba]

update:
a week later nakabili kami ng OEM Nissan MAF sensor sa taft for 6k++, may nakasabay pa kami SA from a Nissan Casa, bumibili din ng parts...
I inquired about I/C turbo cleaning/repair... sabi kaya nila dun(regular routine na daw sa kanila yun)... may OEM repair kit na nabibili dun din and it will take a day to clean and repair busted turbos...


as of today... ok na yung takbo ng patrol namin... MAF sensor lang talaga pinaltan... next year parepair/clean na namin yung IC turbo... palit shock absorber din siguro... 200k++ km and counting ang odometer...

(sorry for the very late update... ndi ako makalog-in sa tsikot due to technical difficulties... ngayon lang ulit ako naka access ng forums, nung na- launch yung car finder 2.0)

Hi! I have a 2001 patrol w/ 130k km. brought it to Nissan Pasong Tamo and was diagnosed with the following major repairs:

1. need to replace intercooler/leak
2. replace valve cover gasket
3. replace 4 pcs injector oil seal
4. replace drivebelt & auto tensioner
5. rep turbo hose/big/crack
6. need ti replace all door hinges
7. need to check front wheel bearing

the intercooler alone was quoted at P70,000 total quote was at a whooping P141k++ (Diyos ko po)

need your help guys. Saan po yung cnasabi nyo na pinagdalhan sa taft, maybe I need a second opinion.

tia

[fibzzz]

you definitely need a 2nd opinion. i was also quoted 70k for the intercooler leak sa pasong tamo. dont let them do the "patch up work" which is to epoxy your whole intercooler. it doesnt work. im currently having mine done at erl motorwerx. pwede nila i weld yng leaks kung de na talaga kaya they can fabricate a new one for u ( buy a new intercooler core tas attach it to your old endtanks). sure de lalampas ng 20k depends on the damage. also, you could try to find a surplus intercooler

checkout this link. dami contact numbers of shops for nissan parts try calling them up.
http://www.nissanbayan.com/forums/in...f=9&t=1240729&

not worth it paayos sa casa unless last resort haha. if i were u source the parts outside tas pakabit mo nalng elsewhere, someone u trust (labor nalang babayaran mo). dami kalokohan sa casa. sa parts ka talaga papatayin laki ng patong. try nissan parts banawe.

boss enawdski where is this place sa taft? may number ba kayo?