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    #301
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    They just use DC motor for the aircon but for automotive ... same as inverter aircon motors used in homes ...
    Dapat pala Panasonic or Daikin ang gamitin na aircon for EVs
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    #302
    Sama ulit sa test drive. Enjoyable daw torque ng epower. Mas tahimik ICE niya kaysa sa Yaris Cross HEV. Mas tahimik din sa loob. Leaning towards Kicks, vs. sa Yaris Cross.

    Baka magbaon ng spare tire at jack/tools sa provincial drives. Hehe.

    OT. Habang nandoon pala kami, may 3 GTR sa showroom na ni prep for release. Wow. Mabenta pa pala iyan kahit 12M.

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    #303
    0 excise tax. Kaya siguro may 70k discount ngayon, dahil sa BEV loophole.

    Pero, hindi siguro siya ganoon ka saleable since may ready units lagi, hindi gaya ng Yaris Cross HEV na may pila, at madami na din sa daan.

    https://www.autoindustriya.com/edito...power-bev.html

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    #304
    Quote Originally Posted by bxr monkey View Post
    0 excise tax. Kaya siguro may 70k discount ngayon, dahil sa BEV loophole.

    Pero, hindi siguro siya ganoon ka saleable since may ready units lagi, hindi gaya ng Yaris Cross HEV na may pila, at madami na din sa daan.

    https://www.autoindustriya.com/edito...power-bev.html
    If naging 0 excise tax, ang laki ng na ipocket nilang profit from the 50% excise tax alone.
    Hindi cgro 70k lang ang price decrease if ganun.
    Dapat ipasa nila to consumer and they should announce the price cut due to this BEV classification.
    Sa mga lawyers and execs lang cgro napunta yung excess 50% excise tax benefit na yan if hindi nila ipasa to consumers.
    Else, if the law is amended, baka nga i request kayo ng govt for a refund for exploiting this loophole.

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    #305
    Nissan was one of the few who honestly reduced the price of their EV's once the EO12 was implemented. The Nissan leaf was reduced to below 2M. While other manufacturers didn't even reduce their price or did so by a very small margin only because motoring journalist were already asking questions about it.

    Alam ko They can't use the discount as the reduction due to the zero Excise tax. maybe some accountant here can shed light on this.

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    #306
    Quote Originally Posted by bxr monkey View Post

    Pero, hindi siguro siya ganoon ka saleable since may ready units lagi, hindi gaya ng Yaris Cross HEV na may pila, at madami na din sa daan.
    A neighbor was quoted 5 months waiting period (he was going to pay via bank PO) for the Yaris Cross HEV. Yung Corolla Cross HEV daw may available unit, GR-S nga lang (dealer was even offering a discount on it).

    There are posts on FB na NVH isn't good. Di rin daw maganda tunog pagsara ng doors and hood.

    This kinda makes the Kicks seem like a better choice now even if the new model is coming in a year.

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    #308
    Got one and very very much like it.

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    #309
    Quote Originally Posted by selegna35 View Post
    Got one and very very much like it.
    Ano po ang variant niyo, at dating mga other options?

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    #311
    Nissan PH lowers prices of 2024 Kicks e-Power | Autoindustriya

    2024 Nissan Kicks e-Power EL – PHP 1,179,000
    2024 Nissan Kicks e-Power VE – PHP 1,279,000
    2024 Nissan Kicks e-Power VL – PHP 1,479,000

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    #312
    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    hmmm...
    interesting... might get one...
    after several years, have these vehicles shown negative issues...?
    Last edited by dr. d; July 1st, 2024 at 03:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    hmmm...
    interesting... might get one...
    after several years, have these vehicles shown negative issues...?
    I remember a thread was started before... pero aircon issues lang nakita ko.

    If my memory is right, we have 5 years left before EV/Hybrid tax exemptions are lifted. Hopefully, I can "electrify" all our vehicles by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    I remember a thread was started before... pero aircon issues lang nakita ko.

    If my memory is right, we have 5 years left before EV/Hybrid tax exemptions are lifted. Hopefully, I can "electrify" all our vehicles by then.


    If I recall correctly, Nissan was able to find the root cause of the issue around mid last year. They figured out how to fix existing units in addition to implementing changes at the factory to prevent the issue from ever happening.

    It seems to have worked since talk about it died down.



    Sayang lang talaga wala silang nahanap na remedyo para malagyan ng spare tire. Reduced prices are good though. A TRUE hybrid with EV-like torque at those prices is going to be hard to resist for potential new car buyers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verbl Kint View Post


    Sayang lang talaga wala silang nahanap na remedyo para malagyan ng spare tire. Reduced prices are good though. A TRUE hybrid with EV-like torque at those prices is going to be hard to resist for potential new car buyers.
    i feel uncomfortable, driving a spare-less vehicle.
    if i do get the e-power,
    i'd probably buy a donut spare tyre, then contract a carpenter to make a wooden something over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i feel uncomfortable, driving a spare-less vehicle.
    if i do get the e-power,
    i'd probably buy a donut spare tyre, then contract a carpenter to make a wooden something over it.
    If gamitin for long drive, must talaga yung spare tire.
    But if city driving lang for coding purpose, I think madali lang naman makapunta sa suking gasoline station to have the punctured tire fixed.
    The included air compressor should help.

    Yun nga lang, use-cases talaga natin sa car ay unpredictable.
    Nakakapaghinayang din if di gamitin sa long drive.

    Also, it seems Nissan finally give-in sa pressure on lowering the price.
    Baka may nakabasa from Nissan dito sa tsikot.

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    #317
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i feel uncomfortable, driving a spare-less vehicle.
    if i do get the e-power,
    i'd probably buy a donut spare tyre, then contract a carpenter to make a wooden something over it.
    Go to a bullbar fabricator and have them make a tow-hitch style spare-tire carrier.

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    #318
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Go to a bullbar fabricator and have them make a tow-hitch style spare-tire carrier.

    This is an idea worth exploring. I would recommend HitchPro.

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    #319
    Sa Philippine setting, I will not use an ecar for long drive, purely city driving lang.
    Daming "what ifs" sa long drive (>250 km , > 5 hours trip).

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    #320
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Sa Philippine setting, I will not use an ecar for long drive, purely city driving lang.
    Daming "what ifs" sa long drive (>250 km , > 5 hours trip).
    Kicks has a gas engine to recharge the battery...

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