2020 Nissan Kicks

[ice15]

the ertiga hybrid is included in the coding-free list.
a youtuber confirmed it.
field-tested in the republic of makati, no less!
sinita, at pinakawalan!

i am now wondering,
"how valuable will that chrome sticker ("hybrid") at the rear of the car, be?"
heh heh heh.

yes... but, MMDA just recently asked for a list... we have to wait and see if mild hybrids are included

[dr. d]

yes... but, MMDA just recently asked for a list... we have to wait and see if mild hybrids are included

in that case,
i won't just yet go to suzuki casa.

[17Sphynx17]

the SA i talked to, said that neither the EP nor the more expensive special plates, were available.
i guess that means , we have to go to the source and verify for ourselves.
bumili nang bagong kotse, only to end up with two cars having the exactsame EP... !
35K for my choice of EP... i can live with that.

that araneta LTO,
hirap pumarada diyan!
ang dambuhala pa naman nang mga container vans na rumaragasa diyan.

yes. alam ko hindi pa naissue yung plate number ng vehicle dapat when you are going to apply for the personalized plate number. You can't just apply for an ending number. it is 3 letters and you apply for either 3 digits or 4 digits. hehe

Coding Exemption ng Hybrids and EVs, at this time, should be valid for 8 years from the implementation of law. Law came into effect April 2022 (because it lapsed into law) and IRR was around October 2022 during the EV Expo here. Not sure which will apply as the end date for the coding exemption, if only April 2030 or October 2030. But it has an expiration date by law as it is explicit, unless it will be amended down the road.

[dr. d]

yes. alam ko hindi pa naissue yung plate number ng vehicle dapat when you are going to apply for the personalized plate number. You can't just apply for an ending number. it is 3 letters and you apply for either 3 digits or 4 digits. hehe

Coding Exemption ng Hybrids and EVs, at this time, should be valid for 8 years from the implementation of law. Law came into effect April 2022 (because it lapsed into law) and IRR was around October 2022 during the EV Expo here. Not sure which will apply as the end date for the coding exemption, if only April 2030 or October 2030. But it has an expiration date by law as it is explicit, unless it will be amended down the road.

years ago,
the 3- or 4-digit combination, were readily available at considerable cost.
and the last digit (EP) was available for a proverbial song.
the SA i talked to last week, said that none of these are available now, at any cost.


after 8 years, EV and hybrid owners probably have two prayers,
1. that their coding exemption will be extended, and
2. the price of replacement lithium batteries would be more affordable.

btw,
i read that should the ertiga's hybrid system be dis-abled,
one may still drive it as a regular gasoline vehicle.

[_Qwerty_]

by 2030 mas madami nang EV and Hybrids.. so I'm sure mag lo lobby yang mga yan to extend that exemption..

years ago,
the 3- or 4-digit combination, were readily available at considerable cost.
and the last digit (EP) was available for a proverbial song.
the SA i talked to last week, said that none of these are available now, at any cost.


after 8 years, EV and hybrid owners probably have two prayers,
1. that their coding exemption will be extended, and
2. the price of replacement lithium batteries would be more affordable.

btw,
i read that should the ertiga's hybrid system be dis-abled,
one may still drive it as a regular gasoline vehicle.

[dr. d]

by 2030 mas madami nang EV and Hybrids.. so I'm sure mag lo lobby yang mga yan to extend that exemption..

or,
it's gone too common, as to make coding exemption a cause for increased traffic jam.

[ice15]

^I'm hoping they just scrap coding...

it didn't help and it only made 2-3 generations of people who do not know how to commute!

***

in 8 years. MRT 7 and the Subway will be operational.

even if traffic is worse, people will have an alternative mode of transport.

[dr. d]

^I'm hoping they just scrap coding...

it didn't help and it only made 2-3 generations of people who do not know how to commute!

***

in 8 years. MRT 7 and the Subway will be operational.

even if traffic is worse, people will have an alternative mode of transport.

i wouldn't buy cars,
if i knew i could be serviced by a taxi on a reliable basis.
it's no easy thing, maintaining a motor vehicle.

furrinstance,
yung garahe na lang,
it can be my man-cave.

[ale828]

or,
it's gone too common, as to make coding exemption a cause for increased traffic jam.

True doc.
hybrid cars would most likely be plentiful by 2030 as they could have their exemption revoked.
EV on the other hand may still be few and far between by that time. Blame the recharge infrastructure?
So if people really want a long term exception from coding then pure EV is the way. hehe

It seems Ironic that a Car brand well known for its Very cold A/C would have A/C problems in its new and popular model.

[dr. d]

True doc.
hybrid cars would most likely be plentiful by 2030 as they could have their exemption revoked.
EV on the other hand may still be few and far between by that time. Blame the recharge infrastructure?
So if people really want a long term exception from coding then pure EV is the way. hehe

It seems Ironic that a Car brand well known for its Very cold A/C would have A/C problems in its new and popular model.

the nissan don't need no recharging facility. which i like, naman.
its charger is powered by a bring-along gasoline engine.

heh heh.
dati siguro, japanese make.
ngayon ay chinese na...?

i remember,
one of its model runs had good taipei roots,
and it showed, daw,
in the build quality.

[ice15]

i wouldn't buy cars,
if i knew i could be serviced by a taxi on a reliable basis.
it's no easy thing, maintaining a motor vehicle.

furrinstance,
yung garahe na lang,
it can be my man-cave.

maintenance + insurance is a pain...

right now, we only have 2 Vespas and 1 City (kulang pa kami ng 1 car since my wife is so happy using her Vespa everyday)

City PMS is around 12K every 6 months, 20K every 2 years. 13K insurance
Vespa PMS (per unit) is 3.2K every 5 months, 8K/year insurance

wala pang costs for annual inspection and registration.

[ice15]

It seems Ironic that a Car brand well known for its Very cold A/C would have A/C problems in its new and popular model.

I find it weird that Nissan is having this issue on a car that's been around since 2016.

Yes, the Brazilian and Mexican versions might be different, but A/C systems are all the same! just use the same components on the ASEAN version!

[ice15]

Nissan Philippines Will Issue Service Campaign For Kicks E-Power AC Issue Starting In June | CarGuide

Nissan Philippines will be conducting a service campaign for the Kicks e-Power starting in June. They will give further announcements on the campaign details, and will reach out to affected customers directly.

The carmaker will give priority to customers whose vehicles are already experiencing the issue, they said in their statement.

Nissan Philippines has also confirmed that customers who have already placed orders for the Kicks e-Power are still affected by the issue, including those who will receive their order in June.

[ice15]

Nissan PH Starts Kicks E-Power AC Service Campaign | CarGuide

the carmaker has confirmed that they’ve started to reach out to affected customers. More importantly, they’re inviting Kicks e-Power customers to check for themselves if their unit is affected.

[dr. d]

Nissan PH Starts Kicks E-Power AC Service Campaign | CarGuide

i am wondering,
what is the underlying problem?
auto aircon technology is de cajon naman...
why is nissan (here and abroad) apparently uniquely plagued with it?

[uls]

i am wondering,
what is the underlying problem?
auto aircon technology is de cajon naman...
why is nissan (here and abroad) apparently uniquely plagued with it?

baka may kinalaman sa e-power system

in a regular car the aircon compressor is driven by the engine pulley and electricity comes from the battery charged by the alternator

sa nissan kicks e-power the engine's purpose is to charge the lithium battery which powers the car

wonder how its compressor is driven and it's very likely the compressor gets electricity from the lithium battery

nissan had to perform new tricks to make it work

hindi na ito traditional nissan aircon na maganda reputation

[boybi]

Iba compressor ng EVs vs traditional cars. May sariling electric motor ang mga compressors ng EVs, vs engine driven sa traditional cars.

[uls]

^^^

kaya siguro hindi na-maintain ng nissan ang bulletproof reputation niya sa aircon pag dating sa e-power

di na traditional aircon tech

[Walter]

They just use DC motor for the aircon but for automotive ... same as inverter aircon motors used in homes ...

[uls]

nissan kicks aircon problem could be the compressor / electricity from the lithium battery