New Mitsubishi Strada [ARCHIVED]

[ianmitsulancer]

Hmmmm.... does this mean that the 2007 line-up was better in term of features than the 2008?

IMO, the August 2007-Present line-up is better because there are 3 ([SIZE=1]instead of 2 for the Hilux, Ranger, Navarra[/SIZE]) premium choices for the 4x4 variants with the 3.2 GLS Sport M/T and A/T and the 2.5 GLS M/T([SIZE=1]like mikko_018's[/SIZE]). The downgrade ([SIZE=1]ABS+EBD deletion only[/SIZE]) was made at the time of the 3.2's launch in August 2007 (in tandem with the 4x2 models) on the 2.5 GLS only to create a price gap with the 3.2 models. It has been noted that the GLS Sport models had an upgrade to 17" mags for the 2008 model plus new audio head units for all models.

the September 2006 - July 2007 line-up with the 2.5 GLS M/T ([SIZE=1]like arvin cristi's and moxxxs'[/SIZE]) and A/T ([SIZE=1]like jeffthermosa's- i think[/SIZE]) that was launched back then because of the ABS+EBD as a standard fit.

this i hope answers your question... thanks.

[bluemica]

galing talaga ni ian parang walking mitsubishi manual hehehe

[Drave]

the only automatic variant available currently is the 3.2 GLS Sport A/T. the 2.5 GLS A/T has been discontinued since the launch of the 3.2 line-up leaving the M/T variant only and downgraded without the ABS+EBD.

Sad, but true. I think all heavy vehicles expecting a lot of load should have this safety feature. With the EBD, I don't feel like I have a lot of load when I step on the brake.

eslonblue's strada came with the 17" mags which I eventually inherited. ergo, 08 model na siya! cant comment on the other accessories though...

Meaning libre?

[ThePatriarch]

Meaning libre?

di naman doc, presyong strada brother lang, hehehe

[ianmitsulancer]

Sad, but true. I think all heavy vehicles expecting a lot of load should have this safety feature. With the EBD, I don't feel like I have a lot of load when I step on the brake.

According to the Brochures, the Load Sensing Proportioning Valve (LSPV) found on the GL, GLX and (August 2007-Present) GLS should be able to give linear stopping power whatever your load is. IMO, this might work in a similar method like the EBD.

attn: other owners of the GLS Sport and (September 2006 - July 2007) GLS:
has any other BOSB encountered harsh/panic braking and felt that their stopping distance is shorter with the EBD?

*Drave- might there be an issue on your EBD? perhaps you can have it checked with the casa po while the truck is still in the warranty period po. Also, im very sure the Manila-Based BOSBs are still eager to meet you. thanks.

[Drave]

According to the Brochures, the Load Sensing Proportioning Valve (LSPV) found on the GL, GLX and (August 2007-Present) GLS should be able to give linear stopping power whatever your load is. IMO, this might work in a similar method like the EBD.

attn: other owners of the GLS Sport and (September 2006 - July 2007) GLS:
has any other BOSB encountered harsh/panic braking and felt that their stopping distance is shorter with the EBD?

*Drave- might there be an issue on your EBD? perhaps you can have it checked with the casa po while the truck is still in the warranty period po. Also, im very sure the Manila-Based BOSBs are still eager to meet you. thanks.

Nope. No issues at all. The brakes work perfectly and the ABS kicks at about the right time. If I'm going to compare this with my everest, both have strong brakes, but, the everest's ABS seems to kick a little earlier. The Bridgestone A/Ts also work well with the strada. My only gripe with the Bridgestone A/T is that it makes more road noise than the Cooper ATR (my everest tires).

Ianmitsulancer,

I'm dying to meet the BOSBs, especially in an "inuman" setting. But I'm too busy with my work, afterwhich I spend my free time with my family. I'm sure the right time will come, and I hope I get wasted

[ooba99]

As far as I know, eslonblue's 3.2 A/T is a 2007 model released in January 2008. But let's hear from him.

eslonblue's strada came with the 17" mags which I eventually inherited. ergo, 08 model na siya! cant comment on the other accessories though...

Kung 17" yung mags ng 3.2 A/T nya, 2008 model nga yun.

Ashuuush.... mukhang mali akala ko, my bad, sorry eslonblue.

[Arvin Cristi]

hmmmmmm....looks like were starting to see a bit more complaints about their rides ah..... the way i see it, the problem could be the QC/QA at the thailand plant per batch of stradas.... because for some reason my i haven't had or experienced majority of the complaints that we've been seeing here....and that with my ride being one of the oldest and abused in the group.... bakit kaya yung mga later models panay ang problema?

[ThePatriarch]

ninong arvin, pagbalik namin ni docglen pakidrive naman strada ko... i think im beginning to feel the 'lagutok' sound sa steering ko... or baka naman yung AT wheels ang nararamdaman ko... paki-confirm na lang po, hehehe

[nismo26]

According to the Brochures, the Load Sensing Proportioning Valve (LSPV) found on the GL, GLX and (August 2007-Present) GLS should be able to give linear stopping power whatever your load is. IMO, this might work in a similar method like the EBD.

attn: other owners of the GLS Sport and (September 2006 - July 2007) GLS:
has any other BOSB encountered harsh/panic braking and felt that their stopping distance is shorter with the EBD?

*Drave- might there be an issue on your EBD? perhaps you can have it checked with the casa po while the truck is still in the warranty period po. Also, im very sure the Manila-Based BOSBs are still eager to meet you. thanks.

This is my concern... the brakes and warranty issue... just need clarifications and i dont have time to read the warranty book...

First I have my disk brakes, and disk pads replaced... Wheres the warranty? I guess PMS is the warranty and if somethings wrong or wear out from your strada, i guess you have to pay....

Brake pads and disk brakes, replacement and refaced cost me 11k and luckily i got 4k discount....

Bout the harsh/panic feeling,,,,,, i dont feel it... only thing i know is that i feel and hear a metal to metal noise when i brake.... (that's before the replacement)

[av8or5]

This is my concern... the brakes and warranty issue... just need clarifications and i dont have time to read the warranty book...

First I have my disk brakes, and disk pads replaced... Wheres the warranty? I guess PMS is the warranty and if somethings wrong or wear out from your strada, i guess you have to pay....

Brake pads and disk brakes, replacement and refaced cost me 11k and luckily i got 4k discount....

Bout the harsh/panic feeling,,,,,, i dont feel it... only thing i know is that i feel and hear a metal to metal noise when i brake.... (that's before the replacement)

sir, as i understand it, in all cars, warranty never covers "normal" wear and tear. so your brake pads, shoes, oil, belts, fuse, lights bulbs, stuff like that is not covered because it wears out in time.

now on your brakes, i forgot how many KM you have driven your strada so I am not sure, if it's within the normal wear and tear of your brakes. now if you think its not normal, then you could have told the Service advisor. Some people are brake drivers (in short, they press on the brake a lot or slight depress when car is still rolling), so if thats the case, your brake pads would wear out faster. Now you should hear a slight metal to metal sound from the breaks, thats the first sign that the brakes pads should be replaced, if it hasn't then it will mess up your brake disc in turn, you have to reface it.

Originally Posted by ianmitsulancer
According to the Brochures, the Load Sensing Proportioning Valve (LSPV) found on the GL, GLX and (August 2007-Present) GLS should be able to give linear stopping power whatever your load is. IMO, this might work in a similar method like the EBD.

Ian, i'm sure this is different from EBD. EBD=Electronic Brake-force Distribution. In short if your just one person in the truck, the front and rear brakes have the same brake force applied, vs when you have passenger or cargo, then more brake force is applied sa rear vs the front to help with stopping faster because your rear wheels will have more weight so adding more braking force will not lock up your rear tires.

LSP is more on the rear brakes only. to lessen the pressure of the rear brake on load factors, but unlike EBD, iLSP does not distribute both front and rear pressure.

ABS is different from EBD. ABS=anti-locking braking system. ABS will help prevent wheel-lock up during hard braking so you can maintain manueverability or steering control. Eto yung when you slam on your brakes, your pedals begin to pulse many times to prevent wheel lock up.

so pwede ka magkaroon ng EBD but wala ABS, and ABS w/out EBD. Ang gulo noh. lol.

[nismo26]

sir, as i understand it, in all cars, warranty never covers "normal" wear and tear. so your brake pads, shoes, oil, belts, fuse, lights bulbs, stuff like that is not covered because it wears out in time.

now on your brakes, i forgot how many KM you have driven your strada so I am not sure, if it's within the normal wear and tear of your brakes. now if you think its not normal, then you could have told the Service advisor. Some people are brake drivers (in short, they press on the brake a lot or slight depress when car is still rolling), so if thats the case, your brake pads would wear out faster. Now you should hear a slight metal to metal sound from the breaks, thats the first sign that the brakes pads should be replaced, if it hasn't then it will mess up your brake disc in turn, you have to reface it.

Originally Posted by ianmitsulancer
According to the Brochures, the Load Sensing Proportioning Valve (LSPV) found on the GL, GLX and (August 2007-Present) GLS should be able to give linear stopping power whatever your load is. IMO, this might work in a similar method like the EBD.

Ian, i'm sure this is different from EBD. EBD=Electronic Brake-force Distribution. In short if your just one person in the truck, the front and rear brakes have the same brake force applied, vs when you have passenger or cargo, then more brake force is applied sa rear vs the front to help with stopping faster because your rear wheels will have more weight so adding more braking force will not lock up your rear tires.

LSP is more on the rear brakes only. to lessen the pressure of the rear brake on load factors, but unlike EBD, iLSP does not distribute both front and rear pressure.

ABS is different from EBD. ABS=anti-locking braking system. ABS will help prevent wheel-lock up during hard braking so you can maintain manueverability or steering control. Eto yung when you slam on your brakes, your pedals begin to pulse many times to prevent wheel lock up.

so pwede ka magkaroon ng EBD but wala ABS, and ABS w/out EBD. Ang gulo noh. lol.

Thanks for the nice reply......

approaching 10km before the replacement... kinda unusual.. well i guess your right... I'm a brake guy coz i use my strada during out of town trips and i seldom use it in the city ( nakakulambo pa)

Thanks for the information on the warranty issue.... God Bless

[av8or5]

Thanks for the nice reply......

approaching 10km before the replacement... kinda unusual.. well i guess your right... I'm a brake guy coz i use my strada during out of town trips and i seldom use it in the city ( nakakulambo pa)

Thanks for the information on the warranty issue.... God Bless

sir, like i said, i dont exactly know when you replaced your brakes at what KM reading. so if your saying 10K KM you changed it already, then by all means, that's not "normal" wear and tear. What was their explaination to you? If you had to pay for it, did you write a letter to MMPC about this incident so they can further check on your claim.

I didnt mean to come out sarcastic as I was trying to get to your complaint or at least answer your inquiry. But I guess you already know the definition of "warranty".

[dadz]

makikisali nga po, i have a friend encounter the same problem with his brakes, MMTH explain to us na and pads some times e megawa na sobrang tigas kaya some time maaga na ginagasagas nya ang disk and that makes it a metal sound the quality of pads depend on where it is made and off coures me mga weak na nakaka lusot sa QA/QC but dito kasama yun sa warranty. but as far as i know we change our pads every 10,000 km to be safe.

[redorange]

makikisali nga po, i have a friend encounter the same problem with his brakes, MMTH explain to us na and pads some times e megawa na sobrang tigas kaya some time maaga na ginagasagas nya ang disk and that makes it a metal sound the quality of pads depend on where it is made and off coures me mga weak na nakaka lusot sa QA/QC but dito kasama yun sa warranty. but as far as i know we change our pads every 10,000 km to be safe.

Changing pads every 10K km is not normal and would require you to change pads every other oil change. If you are required to this then that is not normal wear and tear and the manufacturer should cover it under warranty. Unless of course you drive with your left foot resting on the brake pedal causing the brakes to be applied constantly even when driving at normal speed.

[kogsundiam]

guys sorry hindi pako aka attend ng mit ups every friday, wala pako plate, nag request kasi ako special plate, next week daw andito na.

[dadz]

Changing pads every 10K km is not normal and would require you to change pads every other oil change. If you are required to this then that is not normal wear and tear and the manufacturer should cover it under warranty. Unless of course you drive with your left foot resting on the brake pedal causing the brakes to be applied constantly even when driving at normal speed.

left foot in brake i tryed it, worst hehehehehehehehehe, yes bro redorange it's under warranty dito, that's why we change it every change oil (10k) but like i said my friend recieve an explanation with MMTH and we accept it since every thign is in warranty like my next project i will put up my truck 2" it will still be in warranty, more than that my warranty will be affected but only for my suspension.

[redorange]

left foot in brake i tryed it, worst hehehehehehehehehe, yes bro redorange it's under warranty dito, that's why we change it every change oil (10k) but like i said my friend recieve an explanation with MMTH and we accept it since every thign is in warranty like my next project i will put up my truck 2" it will still be in warranty, more than that my warranty will be affected but only for my suspension.

So what do you do when the warranty expires if it consumes pads every 10K km? Do you pay it out of pocket since it's no longer covered? The manufacturer should fix whatever defect there is causing the vehicle to use up pads every 10K km.

As far as lifting the truck and only affecting the suspension warranty, that's how it should be everywhere including the Philippines. Changing your suspension shouldn't void the whole warranty only the parts that are affected by the change, e.g. changing the suspension doesn't void the ECU warranty as one does not have anything to do with then other. However, changing your suspension with a lift does affect your tie rods, drive shaft angle, and differential among others and those could be voided by the manufacturer if any of those parts fail.

[wulf_geo]

Warranty>>>

hello. may i ask who among you experienced "bunny-hopping" or jerking when you release the accelerator and then press it again at low speed? as if the engine drastically decelerates and surges forward after pressing the accelartor. very annoying during stop-go situation.

our dealer told me that it has something to do with the fuel supply control valve (SCV). they changed it already and the problem is still there. now they are telling me the fuel tank should be emptied and cleaned. whatever...

your feedback please.. many thanks

[dadz]

So what do you do when the warranty expires if it consumes pads every 10K km? Do you pay it out of pocket since it's no longer covered? The manufacturer should fix whatever defect there is causing the vehicle to use up pads every 10K km.

As far as lifting the truck and only affecting the suspension warranty, that's how it should be everywhere including the Philippines. Changing your suspension shouldn't void the whole warranty only the parts that are affected by the change, e.g. changing the suspension doesn't void the ECU warranty as one does not have anything to do with then other. However, changing your suspension with a lift does affect your tie rods, drive shaft angle, and differential among others and those could be voided by the manufacturer if any of those parts fail.

bro red orange i will change my suspension increasing my heigh 2" and it will still be warranty by MMTH, and i just aquire a diamond warrant meaning my warranty will for 150K, with that include another 2" i can add to my suspension first warranty is up to 50k plus 2" and second the diamond is 150K plus another 2" hehehehehehehehe dito maluwag sila sa warranty.

Bro wolf_geo i have experience this, i left my truck running for almost 5 hrs ac on, when it's time for me to go i step on the accelerator the power drop as in namatay 3 times dinala ko sa dealer they just reprogram my ECU change some thing then okay na if your using ECU then pwede mo dun i pa check.