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    #3781
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    ang punto kasi kung driver error bakit montero lang nadidisgrasya..... so kaya ko kinumpara sa ibang sasakyan na madami din sa kalsada....

    at yung sa mitsubishi philippines bakit nag-agree pero biglang backout doon sa parameters ng SUA group na fair naman..... bakit bigalng kinuha si horiba mira na syempre lulutuin yun investigation...
    Based on your point, why not compare the Strada? which is basically the mechanical twin of of Montero sans the chassis.

    And if halos same naman montero natin dito sa SEA, bakit tayo lang? Diba?

    Re: sa MMPC decision to backout, nobody knows except them.

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    #3782
    ^
    sa nabasa ko doon sa data ng sua group eh meron din mga na-sua na strada sa mga probinsya......

    about sa southeast asia...... eh yun nga nakakahiya kung exclusive lang sa pinoy yan.... kaya dapat makaimbento na ng blood test para malaman kung sino hindi pwede bumili ng montero....

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    #3783
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    ^
    sa nabasa ko doon sa data ng sua group eh meron din mga na-sua na strada sa mga probinsya......

    about sa southeast asia...... eh yun nga nakakahiya kung exclusive lang sa pinoy yan.... kaya dapat makaimbento na ng blood test para malaman kung sino hindi pwede bumili ng montero....
    Could be, we'll never know whether they are telling the truth or making things up.

    I certainly hope na hindi totoong may SUA, kasi if totoo man to, then lahat ng Monty affected.

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    #3784
    SUA ISRAEL!!! 100% po ang hit rate sa automatic transmission!!

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    #3785
    driver error maybe🤤but many victims are all montero not strada🤔 which is odd since they mechanically the same. Let not judge the driver of SUA for their error. What if it really happened? 😥


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    #3786
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    ang punto kasi kung driver error bakit montero lang nadidisgrasya..... so kaya ko kinumpara sa ibang sasakyan na madami din sa kalsada....

    at yung sa mitsubishi philippines bakit nag-agree pero biglang backout doon sa parameters ng SUA group na fair naman..... bakit bigalng kinuha si horiba mira na syempre lulutuin yun investigation...
    Mitsubishi can't afford for this SUA issue to really blow up, obviously malaki malulugi sa kanila. They will fight this off to the very end while (possibly) hiring online trolls to defend and deny the issue while blaming the victim.

    Be it sa pulitikos, religion, and even brand, may cult-like devotion and mga pinoy . It is tough for the people even to just reconsider their devotions/opinions despite data on the contrary unless they themselves get involved (e.g., EJK).

    I'm not saying totoo ung SUA, but for myself I'd like to keep an open mind. My sense of self preservation in this case is greater than my brand loyalty.

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    #3787
    Conspiracy theories of brand sabotage????.....a case for Mulder & Scully.

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    #3788
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Conspiracy theories of brand sabotage????.....a case for Mulder & Scully.

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    montero had alien genes[emoji33] [emoji33]

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    #3789
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    ang punto kasi kung driver error bakit montero lang nadidisgrasya.....
    Napakadali lang naman sir haha. Sa sobrang kasikatan ng “SUA”, syempre napakadaling isipin “nakamontero ako at naaksidente ako. SUA to”. Kumbaga alibi nalang haha. Mas valid pa na argument yung bakit sa pilipinas lang meron “SUA”. Napakadaming Montero at Strada sa mundo pero dito lang nangyayari.


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    #3790
    Quote Originally Posted by Trippin View Post

    I'm not saying totoo ung SUA, but for myself I'd like to keep an open mind. My sense of self preservation in this case is greater than my brand loyalty.
    I second this. Open minded din ako, di sarado ang isip ko na possible na totoo ang “SUA”.

    Ang kaso lang, magmula nung sinasabi ng mga tao na “tinatapakan ko ang preno pero hindi pumepereno” ay ibang usapan na yun. Walang kahit anong connection ang brake pedal sa throttle. Sakaling totoong mag accelerate nga ng kusa without driver input, hindi mangyayaring pati preno ay wala ng control ang driver. Kahit simpleng shift to neutral lang sana then videohan na nagrerev ng kusa ang montero. Pero wala eh. [emoji23]


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    #3791
    I'm trying to convince myself na yung pressure sa casual na pag apak ko sa ng brake pedal would be equal to flooring in case gas pedal pala ang naapakan ko.

    But one thing is sure, dahil sa issue, I couldn't imagine myself parking a Montero na nakaharap ako sa ledge ng isang multi level parking.

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    #3792
    Here is a link to dashboard camera footage of the Shaw Blvd. Montero Sport incident. Can you see if the brake lights were lit?

    Fashion PULIS: FB Scoop: Dashcam Video of Car Accident Injuring ABS-CBN Reporter Doris Bigornia and Driver

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    #3793
    Quote Originally Posted by ice_man5210 View Post
    Here is a link to dashboard camera footage of the Shaw Blvd. Montero Sport incident. Can you see if the brake lights were lit?

    Fashion PULIS: FB Scoop: Dashcam Video of Car Accident Injuring ABS-CBN Reporter Doris Bigornia and Driver
    Watched it, not sure, but I didn't see the brake lights coming on.

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    #3794
    Quote Originally Posted by falken View Post
    Watched it, not sure, but I didn't see the brake lights coming on.

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    You see glaring red light coming from the brake lights of other vehicles in the video.

    You get a chance to see the montero's tail lights when it goes almost perpendicular to the dash cam vehicle after it hits it. No glaring red lights observed.

    We don't own a montero... but sure looks like driver error again...

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    #3795
    Quote Originally Posted by mda View Post
    You see glaring red light coming from the brake lights of other vehicles in the video.

    You get a chance to see the montero's tail lights when it goes almost perpendicular to the dash cam vehicle after it hits it. No glaring red lights observed.

    We don't own a montero... but sure looks like driver error again...
    why only montero? other brand dont have this issues and why only in the philippines[emoji33]

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    #3796
    Quote Originally Posted by maxpedition View Post
    why only montero? other brand dont have this issues and why only in the philippines[emoji33]

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    I don't know sir, just stating observation based on what I saw sa video.

    When other vehicles in the video hits their brake lights... red light / glare sa video.

    Montero comes in, hits front of vehicle, you get a chance to see the red light and glare... pero wala.

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    #3797
    Pa ot

    Same ecu ba ang ginamit ng gen 2 at gen 3?

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    #3798
    Quote Originally Posted by maxpedition View Post
    why only montero? other brand dont have this issues and why only in the philippines[emoji33]

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    Sa USA try to search toyota sua. Hindi lang Pilipinas


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    #3799
    I think the driver of the first montero (south bound) that hit the vios was free gliding (no foot on the pedals) down the tunnel at speed of no slower than 50 kph.
    Then when he is near the vios, he mistakenly stepped on the gas pedal thats why the engine starts to rev, and continuously pressing it (flooring) thinking its the brake pedal. That is when he informed his passengers that they have a wayward montero. By the time he hit the vios his speed is now around 80 kph, at that speed, the momentum can cause the vios to behave like a bullet and crossed into the opposite lane hitting the north bound montero that hits Doris pick up. The guy that posted his ordeal in FB is lying, he cant possibly know in certainty that they are travelling at 20 kph, at EDSA, 20 kph is almost bumper to bumper, with no more than 2 car length between vehicles. So if the montero SUAd, he will bumped the vios in under 4 seconds (101, 102, 103, 104) at that amount of time, from 20 kph, the montero speed should be no more than 40kph which doesn't match the extent of the resulting damaged.

    Insurance investigators should check the brakes, and PMS records, maybe the pads are all worn out.
    I will not be surprise if the driver is not the owner, or the montero is not his regular drive unit.

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    #3800
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    eh ang problema kasi bakit montero lagi nabibiktima at puro pinoy lang....

    baka meron gene mutation disease na exclusive sa mga pinoy....... bago bumili ng montero eh mapablood test muna.....

    ako iniisip ko eh design fault or SUA talaga yan....

    pero kung driver error eh kahiya-hya ang lahing filipino...
    nababayaran kasi ang drivers license sa pinas

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