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    #2041
    Quote Originally Posted by macsd View Post
    Ang ginamit kasi ng MMC ay abugado to do the problem analysis hindi technical guy, kaya deny to death lang. Even though wala akong Monty, i would stay away from these cars on the road. Who know's when it will create havoc and you don't want to be near the scene when that happens.
    Anak ng abugado ang gumawa ng problem analysis ng MMC, totoo ba yan?

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    #2042
    Quote Originally Posted by macsd View Post
    Ang ginamit kasi ng MMC ay abugado to do the problem analysis hindi technical guy, kaya deny to death lang. Even though wala akong Monty, i would stay away from these cars on the road. Who know's when it will create havoc and you don't want to be near the scene when that happens.
    in my opinion, your chances of getting into a fender-bender as you maneuver to "stay away" from these vehicles, are more than the chances of the vehicles going demon and attacking you.
    just drive "normally".
    can we see it in our minds? ... suddenly, there is a halo of empty road space surrounding each and every monty on the road...
    heh heh.

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    #2043
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    Anak ng abugado ang gumawa ng problem analysis ng MMC, totoo ba yan?
    Remember may history na ang mitsubishi motors sa vehicle defect cover ups. Remember during early year 2000 yata one of the biggest car scandal.

    MITSUBISHI ADMITS TO BROAD COVER-UP OF AUTO DEFECTS - NYTimes.com
    Last edited by valskie01; December 2nd, 2015 at 09:27 AM.

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    #2044
    Quote Originally Posted by valskie01 View Post
    Remember may history na ang mitsubishi motors sa vehicle defect cover ups. Remember during early year 2000 yata one of the biggest car scandal.
    hooowww yess....
    i wonder.. did the corporate overhaul leave something un-touched...?

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    #2045
    Quote Originally Posted by valskie01 View Post
    Remember may history na ang mitsubishi motors sa vehicle defect cover ups. Remember during early year 2000 yata one of the biggest car scandal.
    That's is correct.

    Sa case naman na to eh ang daming buy back, 30% of the total number of cases.

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    #2046
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    That's is correct.





    Sa case naman na to eh ang daming buy back, 30% of the total number of cases.


    I wonder what happened to those units that mitsu bought back.

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    #2047
    Quote Originally Posted by altec View Post
    How about a faulty inhibitor switch? I can start the monty when the stick is on D but the indicator is blank, shake the shift a little and the indicator lights up. I can also do it the opposite way. While lighted, i move the stick a little and the indicator goes blank. Could this glitch coupled with developing a habit of not needing to step on the brake to change gears specially coming from park (for 2012 and older models), plus mistaking the fuel pedal as the brakes, contribute to it?
    kasu baka may sabit parin ang user sa ganito scenario kasi hindi naka-apak sa brake. sasabihin ng abugado na naka-sulat sa owner's manual ang "step on the brakes"

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    #2048
    Quote Originally Posted by car_fan View Post
    I wonder what happened to those units that mitsu bought back.
    baka nabenta din in house

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    #2049
    Quote Originally Posted by Luap View Post
    Good read sir. Thanks for sharing.
    Another example of thoery presentation. Hindi din nila natesting yung kotse mismo unlike sa NHTSA at NASA.

    Kay for me, mas convincing yung report nang NHTSA at NASA. SCientific eh at thourogh hindi haka-haka lang gaya nung ginagawa nang iba dito.

    Still I am asking for this thread to be close kasi paulit-ulit na lang and i-open na lang kung tapos na investigation nang DTI.

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    #2050
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Another example of thoery presentation. Hindi din nila natesting yung kotse mismo unlike sa NHTSA at NASA.



    Kay for me, mas convincing yung report nang NHTSA at NASA. SCientific eh at thourogh hindi haka-haka lang gaya nung ginagawa nang iba dito.



    Still I am asking for this thread to be close kasi paulit-ulit na lang and i-open na lang kung tapos na investigation nang DTI.

    While I agree with the more robust testing done by NHTSA and NASA, but these tests were done on toyota units which were manufactured through their own proprietary technology/process. Though the results of the tests done on toyota may be used as a point of comparison for mitsu that indeed, it can be proven that there is no SUA. On the other hand, we can also say that toyota is not mitsu.

    If only we had our own NHTSA and NASA to conduct the tests.

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    #2051
    Quote Originally Posted by altec View Post
    How about a faulty inhibitor switch? I can start the monty when the stick is on D but the indicator is blank, shake the shift a little and the indicator lights up. I can also do it the opposite way. While lighted, i move the stick a little and the indicator goes blank. Could this glitch coupled with developing a habit of not needing to step on the brake to change gears specially coming from park (for 2012 and older models), plus mistaking the fuel pedal as the brakes, contribute to it?
    Panung shake the shift a little? Aalugin mo tapos magkakaroon ng indication? In the first place, you should not be able to start it on D.

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    #2052
    Quote Originally Posted by shooter_rye View Post
    While I agree with the more robust testing done by NHTSA and NASA, but these tests were done on toyota units which were manufactured through their own proprietary technology/process. Though the results of the tests done on toyota may be used as a point of comparison for mitsu that indeed, it can be proven that there is no SUA. On the other hand, we can also say that toyota is not mitsu.

    If only we had our own NHTSA and NASA to conduct the tests.
    Kaya nga let's wait for the DTI investigation before making assumptions. Hirap kasi yung puro theory at wala namang proof. I hope that with the end of DTI's investigation along with the other agencies siguro naman matatapos na ito. It has been proposed nga na sana kumuha sila experts from the US. Para 3rd party talaga mag-investigate at nang hindi sabihin na MMC kasi kaya ganyan result.

    Tsaka ikaso na nnag nagrereklamo yan imho. Para magkaalaman na sa korte.
    Last edited by Ry_Tower; December 2nd, 2015 at 10:28 AM.

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    #2053
    Just saw a report on the SUA issue on ANC. Hindi naman biased. The report showed interviews of engineers who suggested that the electronics of the car should be tested thoroughly and exhaustively by an independent third party. If they really can't pinpoint the cause to an electronic defect, then the only possible causes for SUA are driver error and physical entanglement of the pedals.

    TV Patrol is another story of course, always sensationalized, with biased comments from the anchors.


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    #2054
    I've been a supplier of Japanese companies in the Phils.. When it comes to quality and safety.. I may say they are no. 1... Or over acting na nga... Japanese ba talaga ang may hawak ng mga montero dito sa pinas? Or Thais?or Filipino?

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    #2055
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Just saw a report on the SUA issue on ANC. Hindi naman biased. The report showed interviews of engineers who suggested that the electronics of the car should be tested thoroughly and exhaustively by an independent third party. If they really can't pinpoint the cause to an electronic defect, then the only possible causes for SUA are driver error and physical entanglement of the pedals.

    TV Patrol is another story of course, always sensationalized, with biased comments from the anchors.


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    I guess medyo nagmemellow na sila since sinabi kahapon ng mmpc na wala talagang problema at game sila na 3rd party ang magtest. Pero previous news talaga nila ipinipilit talaga e. May "expert" pa. Pati dzmm ganun rin

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    #2056
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Just saw a report on the SUA issue on ANC. Hindi naman biased. The report showed interviews of engineers who suggested that the electronics of the car should be tested thoroughly and exhaustively by an independent third party. If they really can't pinpoint the cause to an electronic defect, then the only possible causes for SUA are driver error and physical entanglement of the pedals.

    TV Patrol is another story of course, always sensationalized, with biased comments from the anchors.


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    I'm about to say that. the burden of proof is in the complainants not to Mitsu. sana mayron tayong gov't agency ang mag- investigate as impartial to access the cause of sudden acceleration.

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    #2057
    Quote Originally Posted by shooter_rye View Post
    While I agree with the more robust testing done by NHTSA and NASA, but these tests were done on toyota units which were manufactured through their own proprietary technology/process. Though the results of the tests done on toyota may be used as a point of comparison for mitsu that indeed, it can be proven that there is no SUA. On the other hand, we can also say that toyota is not mitsu.

    If only we had our own NHTSA and NASA to conduct the tests.
    Meron po tayo DOST, TESDA at PAGASA

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    #2058
    Quote Originally Posted by automot0 View Post
    Meron po tayo DOST, TESDA at PAGASA
    meron nga pero inutil naman ang DOST pati DTI, ang TESDA naman pagka alam ko wala silang hi-tech na machine to diagnose the computer box of modern cars. huh PAGASA? sila ba yung weather forecaster

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    #2059
    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Bala 97 tao lang naman tao in an a car that sells like 3k units / month.

    It could be that it's human error, or senior, or clueless female driver, or bakla na mahilig mag-blog or it could be a fsctory defect.

    Mitsubishi wouldnt admit the defect,
    The persons of interest wouldnt admit that it's human error.

    But still ladder frame suvs, are like a big weapon when unleashed like that.

    So ano ang dapat gawin, magingat kayo sa mga ladder frame suvs. Know the car difference, keep vigilant.
    Ano kinalaman po ladder frame na SUV sa SUA?

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    #2060
    More in depth news report of MMPC's press briefing and analysis compared to Bias Network....


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