Mitsubishi Montero Sudden Acceleration Accidents [MERGED]

[Belahans]

"But after the first hit, it's puzzling that he would put the vehicle in "Drive" afterward. If he voluntarily pushed it down into "Drive", that indicates more confusion on his part, because if you believe you are already in "Drive", why push the lever down instead of backing up?"

can anybody explain this statement? di kaya nang brain cells ko intindihin, may sinabi ba si general na after nya mag reverse e nilagay nya sa drive? di ba ang sabi nya, nasa drive na daw siya pero nagreverse.

[Belahans]

"Secondly, when the vehicle shoots forward, what the TV reporter claims to be brake lights are quite apparently running lights. Notice that the inner portion of the brake light assembly is brighter than the outer portion (the actual brake lights), and that the third brake light (a legal requirement for increasing the visibility of the brake lights) is not lit in the video. As you can see from the previous video, the brake lights should be clearly visible in broad daylight."

kung titingnan po natin ang link na sinasabi nilang kita ang third brake light in broad daylight, notice sa 1:30 mark nang video hindi kita ang third brake light due to dark tints. the only time na kita sa video ang third brake lights e nung nabasag na ang rear glass dahil sa pagkakabangga.

[JJB]

Is it possible that the inhibitor switch is faulty shifting the gear from D to R? then after the first impact, gear would automatically shift to D thus creating a frontal crash?
Lahat ba ng models ng montero may 3rd brake light na? why would someone switch the park lights on if it's daytime?
just really curious about all the possibilities for SUA since we have a newer and kinda-more-convincing video

[CVT]

Is it possible that the inhibitor switch is faulty shifting the gear from D to R? then after the first impact, gear would automatically shift to D thus creating a frontal crash?
Lahat ba ng models ng montero may 3rd brake light na? why would someone switch the park lights on if it's daytime?
just really curious about all the possibilities for SUA since we have a newer and kinda-more-convincing video

Bro,- AFAIK, inhibitor switches were designed and installed to inhibit starting the vehicle, unless the lever is on P [or N(?)],- so what you are saying is kind of 'illogical' to consider.

I usually use the park lights when driving even on daytime.... Most especially if I am driving against the sun... This gives the vehicle behind me a little more information about my vehicle position and speed,- as collisions happen when rolling, too... Depends from one driver to another,- but this is me.

Again,- the video is not convincing, as the outermost running/brake lights did not light up more intensely, as pointed out by bro.niky....

What is the year model of that MS? I assume that all MS (more recent releases) have a third brake light (and with 3 bulbs which would not get busted at the same time - again, the law of probabilities or the law of being pabaya on the part of the owner... )



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"Secondly, when the vehicle shoots forward, what the TV reporter claims to be brake lights are quite apparently running lights. Notice that the inner portion of the brake light assembly is brighter than the outer portion (the actual brake lights), and that the third brake light (a legal requirement for increasing the visibility of the brake lights) is not lit in the video. As you can see from the previous video, the brake lights should be clearly visible in broad daylight."

kung titingnan po natin ang link na sinasabi nilang kita ang third brake light in broad daylight, notice sa 1:30 mark nang video hindi kita ang third brake light due to dark tints. the only time na kita sa video ang third brake lights e nung nabasag na ang rear glass dahil sa pagkakabangga.

can't see the third brake light nga bago mabasag yong rear glass ok. BUT! after mag-switch ng driver "1:50 mark ng video" hindi na umilaw ni isang brake light... baka akala nya brake? nong pagkatapos bumangga saka mo makikitang umilaw yong mga brake lights.


sa St. Vincent Hospital naman pause ka sa 0:04 mark ng video upper part notice may red car na dadaan ang tingkad, pansinin mo din mga nakaparadang sasakyan nawala na lahat red tail lights grayscale? desaturated? including St. Vincent Hospital red paint 0:47 or 0:48 mark ng video kita mo actual na kulay. now don't tell me sa cctv hindi magpapkita lahat ng kulay, take note may dumaan na red car ang tingkad. Now balik tayo sa montero ni general pause mo sa "0:14 mark ng video" hindi outer part yong nakikita mong nakailaw at! I suspect ginamitan yan ng Selective Color, ni-adjust brightness sa selected part, ginamitan din ng Mask Tracker. naniniwala ako sa SUA pero hindi ganito.

Selective Color https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m0J3gfB5OM
Mask Tracker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7wpUtUMw8A

[glenn manikis]

Baka nag sign na Ng, quit claim Si general..?

[Belahans]

honestly i cant tell which light is on, the running lights or the brake lights due to the low quality of the image. but i have proven that you cant see the third brake light through dark tints, you cant use the third brake light as the basis on this case.

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honestly i cant tell which light is on, the running lights or the brake lights due to the low quality of the image. but i have proven that you cant see the third brake light through dark tints, you cant use the third brake light as the basis on this case.

nag back read ka naba bro? nandon yong reply ko sayo dati pa Page 334.
disregard mo na yong 3rd brake light sa taas pero you can't miss the "Outer part are the brake lights" kahit pa medyo side view still very visible ang brake lights "Inner part naman sa tail gate yong running lights"

review mo yong video ni general pause mo sa 00:14
at yong video sa screenshot mo nandon sa page 334 nandon yong reply ko at pause mo sa 1:00 for comparison.

[baludoy]

read this last friday

FOREIGN FIRMS VIE FOR CONTRACT TO TEST ON MONTERO
February 19, 2016

Eight international companies have expressed interest to conduct the full-vehicle tests on the Mitsubishi Montero Sport automatic variant to determine the causes of alleged sudden unintended acceleration on some units.

These are CSA Group Bayern and SGS Germany, both of Germany; EMC Bayswater Pty Ltd of Australia; Element Materials Technology and 3C Test Limited of the United Kingdom; TÜV SÜD of Singapore; DELTA Danish Electronics of Denmark and International Centre for Automotive Technology of India.

Victorio Mario Dimagiba, undersecretary of the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI), in a press conference yesterday said the DTI’s final report – after validation of three individual experts it hired – would be made public by the end of May.

The DTI-bids and awards committee has started issuing invitations to bid for the identification of the laboratory that will test the Montero at the lowest calculated bid. The pre-bid conference is set on February 24 and the notice of award follows a month after.

The contract will be signed March 31, the notice to proceed on April 1. The receipt of the test results is set on May 23.


Business News

Foreign*firms vie for contract to test on Montero | Malaya Business Insight

[niky]

I'm wondering who the DTI's experts are.

My beef with the last round of tests was that their experts asked for the wrong tests... either too simplistic or too out there.

Now it turns out, according to the SUA club, that the DTI is still going to be the one to design the tests carried out by the third party... in other words... this is a "third party investigation" only in the sense that neither the DTI nor Mitsubishi will be performing the physical tests themselves.

[JJB]

I'm wondering who the DTI's experts are.

My beef with the last round of tests was that their experts asked for the wrong tests... either too simplistic or too out there.

Now it turns out, according to the SUA club, that the DTI is still going to be the one to design the tests carried out by the third party... in other words... this is a "third party investigation" only in the sense that neither the DTI nor Mitsubishi will be performing the physical tests themselves.

Why don't they follow how regulators investigated Toyota, Lexus et al when they had SUA incidents in the US? Or is it because the companies admitted they had faulty components early in the investigations?

[altec]

re the general's montero, anong year model daw ito? Before 2012 or older? Kasi kung ipakabit yung para di matanggal from park kung di inapak ang brake pedal, maraming incidents ang mawawala. Magkano ba ang cost kung ipakabit sa older models?

[agrimensor]

Ang clutch ba ng MS ay mechanical o sensor type?

[cast_no_shadow]

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[dr. d]

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[badsekktor]

Hindi pa rin talaga ako makapaniwala sa SUA na yan pero yun inhibitor switch kaya eh pwede magcause ng pag-jam ng shifter sa drive? Yun sa montero last week nawawala yun neutral at drive sa display at hindi kumakagat sa drive. Medyo hassle gamitin sa traffic. Hindi kaya nagjam sa drive though walang nakalagay sa lcd kung saang gear nakapasok?

Medyo hindi talaga ako bilib sa casa. Parang nanghuhula lang mga tech at mechanics nila. Just this morning, dinala na yun sasakyan sa casa, yun quotation nila hindi naka-indicate yun mga concerns na sinabi ko. Yun power steering leak sa hose at yun inhibitor switch.

Same with ford casa. Engine systems failure tapos reduced acceleration pero no errors sa obd diags.... tsk... puro ba trainee ang nasa casa?

[niky]

Hindi pa rin talaga ako makapaniwala sa SUA na yan pero yun inhibitor switch kaya eh pwede magcause ng pag-jam ng shifter sa drive? Yun sa montero last week nawawala yun neutral at drive sa display at hindi kumakagat sa drive. Medyo hassle gamitin sa traffic. Hindi kaya nagjam sa drive though walang nakalagay sa lcd kung saang gear nakapasok?

Medyo hindi talaga ako bilib sa casa. Parang nanghuhula lang mga tech at mechanics nila. Just this morning, dinala na yun sasakyan sa casa, yun quotation nila hindi naka-indicate yun mga concerns na sinabi ko. Yun power steering leak sa hose at yun inhibitor switch.

Same with ford casa. Engine systems failure tapos reduced acceleration pero no errors sa obd diags.... tsk... puro ba trainee ang nasa casa?

Go outside. There are quite a few shops familiar with inhibitor switch cleaning and replacement already.

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As for the Ford... what Ford did you have, again? Turbo issues?

[badsekktor]

Go outside. There are quite a few shops familiar with inhibitor switch cleaning and replacement already.

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As for the Ford... what Ford did you have, again? Turbo issues?

I agree. Maraming reputable shops na ok ang service. May ilan na rin akong suki. Problem lang is laging puno so kelangan talaga sched. Well... nandun na sa casa yun montero... as expected... tumawag kanina sabi ok na so pagdating ko... well... malayo pa lang kita ko pa rin yun leak.... in fairness sa tsikot, right on the mark lagi ang payo at diagnosis.

Ford focus mk2 hatch sir niky. Ginawa ko na rin mga tips sa fcp pero ganun pa din. Luckily, may nakita akong tip sa youtube kung paano i-reset powertrain control module. So far so good. Parang nagdahilan lang yun oto.

[StockEngine]

yun quotation nila hindi naka-indicate yun mga concerns na sinabi ko.

Pag hindi nakalagay, hindi makikita sa service history. Dapat nakalagay. Iba talaga mga dishonest na SA/shops.

[ramiel17]

Any updates re this SUA issue?


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