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    #21
    IMHO, may " something" na nakapag provoke na mag accelerate yung montero..everytime na aapak tau sa gas pedal, kelangan natin mag exert ng effort para mapress yung pedal kasi may spring na kumokontra nung force natin na inaapply sa pedal para bumalik sa original position yun pedal..I dont think na mag accelerate ng basta basta yung sasakyan ng walang nakapag press ng gas pedal.

    Mahirap aminin ang isang pagkakamali lalo na kung marami rami kang nadamage na property...

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by FoundOnRoadDead View Post
    IMHO, may " something" na nakapag provoke na mag accelerate yung montero..everytime na aapak tau sa gas pedal, kelangan natin mag exert ng effort para mapress yung pedal kasi may spring na kumokontra nung force natin na inaapply sa pedal para bumalik sa original position yun pedal..I dont think na mag accelerate ng basta basta yung sasakyan ng walang nakapag press ng gas pedal.

    Mahirap aminin ang isang pagkakamali lalo na kung marami rami kang nadamage na property...
    Tama. Unless na may mahanap silang problem sa ECU kasi electronically controlled ang throttle

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoundOnRoadDead View Post
    IMHO, may " something" na nakapag provoke na mag accelerate yung montero..everytime na aapak tau sa gas pedal, kelangan natin mag exert ng effort para mapress yung pedal kasi may spring na kumokontra nung force natin na inaapply sa pedal para bumalik sa original position yun pedal..I dont think na mag accelerate ng basta basta yung sasakyan ng walang nakapag press ng gas pedal.

    Mahirap aminin ang isang pagkakamali lalo na kung marami rami kang nadamage na property...

    Quote Originally Posted by Starex_Gold View Post
    Yup. Maraming possible scenarios. Ang makakapagsabi lang talaga eh yung naka experience. Syempre lahat ng casa i dedeny yan diba
    ang tanging may alam lang sa tunay na nangyari ay ang Siyang Nasa Taas... wala naman pong aamin dyan ehh, mapa driver error or mechanical failure

    pero sa akin lang po, i'm leaning more towards driver error...

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    #25
    possibleng ecu din problem..pero SG, hindi ba mag dedepende pa din yung computation ng amount ng fuel na i fefeed niya sa engine thru sa pag apak natin sa gas pedal?

    IMO, we still "command" our cars whether to accelerate or not (regardless of the idle)..meaning ECU will not increase fuel injection unless we press the gas pedal...

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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by synysterG View Post
    ang tanging may alam lang sa tunay na nangyari ay ang Siyang Nasa Taas... wala naman pong aamin dyan ehh, mapa driver error or mechanical failure

    pero sa akin lang po, i'm leaning more towards driver error...
    same here bro..

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by FoundOnRoadDead View Post
    same here bro..
    kasi kung talagang may 50 years driving experience siya especially with automatics, alam nya dapat na ibalik agad sa "N" yung lever with matching maximum tapak sa brakes para stop agad. it was indicated that the montero still jerked forward a couple of times after hitting the tree, which means na naka-engage pa din sa "D" yung A/T lever...

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by FoundOnRoadDead View Post
    possibleng ecu din problem..pero SG, hindi ba mag dedepende pa din yung computation ng amount ng fuel na i fefeed niya sa engine thru sa pag apak natin sa gas pedal?

    IMO, we still "command" our cars whether to accelerate or not (regardless of the idle)..meaning ECU will not increase fuel injection unless we press the gas pedal...
    Maraming pwede mangyari sa ECU. ECU causes the engine stalling of Theta II Tucsons. Pwede rin na ECU causes the unwanted hard accelerations of Camry and Lexus in USA. Haha. Di rin natin alam. Mahirap kapag electronics na ang mag-override sa human. :question:

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    #29
    with regards to airbags, hindi talaga magdedeploy ang airbags.. airbags deploy within a certain speed, from What You Need to Know About Air Bags, DOT HS 809 575

    "air bags are typically designed to deploy in frontal and near-frontal collisions, which are comparable to hitting a solid barrier at approximately 8 to 14 miles per hour (mph). Roughly speaking, a 14 mph barrier collision is equivalent to striking a parked car of similar size across the full front of each vehicle at about 28 mph. This is because the parked car absorbs some of the energy of the crash, and is pushed by the striking vehicle. Unlike crash tests into barriers, real-world crashes typically occur at angles, and the crash forces usually are not evenly distributed across the front of the vehicle. Consequently, the relative speed between a striking and struck vehicle required to deploy the air bag in a real-world crash can be much higher than an equivalent barrier crash."

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by katana View Post
    if 1st time niya mag maneho ng montero sports, sa tingin ko driver's fault. unless he drives it several times tapos nangyari yon, pwede ang sasakyan may problema. yong deployment ng airbag, sa tingin ko, tama lang hindi nag deploy ang airbag sa konting damage ng montero. ano kaya nangyari kung premature nag deploy ang airbag, di na ma control ng driver ang sasakyan at baka ma ospital pa siya sa pag deploy ng airbag. ang di ko maintindihan, kung start niya ang engine at nag high rpm, paano at bakit niya na engage sa drive ang transmission? baka nasa drive position ang transmission at naapakan niya ang accelerator instead brake bago niya start ang engine, kaya napatakbo agad ang montero at engine high rpm???????? sa tingin ko la rin kinalaman yong floor carpet sa acceleration na sasakyan.
    Agree ako dito. Similar sa nangyari sa officemate ko, akala nia ang inaapakan nia break yon pala accelerator.

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