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    #3641
    Quote Originally Posted by altec View Post
    .... this just means mababa ang 600rpm.
    yup, we should insist to have the nominal idle speed set to 700 rpm. this should solve the problem. i hope this can be easily adjusted through MUT programming by the casa.

    lifting from the pages of the service manual, the following are the probable causes of incorrect idling speed:

    PROBABLE CAUSES


    Failed ignition system
    Failed fuel system
    Failed air-fuel ratio control system
    Failed intake and exhaust air system
    Failed exhaust gas cleaning system
    Contamination around the throttle valve
    Timing chain in out of place
    Improper compression pressure
    Failed variable valve timing control system
    Failed engine-ECU <M/T> or engine-A/T-ECU <A/T>

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    #3642
    *altec

    Sir, idle rpm nung akin is 700, not 730.
    Vbatt * engine off, no load = 13.5V
    Vbatt * engine on, no load, 700rpm = 14.5V
    Vbatt * engine on, with load (head lights, AC, radio), 700rpm = 14.5V
    Vbatt * engine on, with load (head lights, AC, radio), 900rpm = 14.7V

    Hope this helps sir.

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    #3643
    Quote Originally Posted by ctiongson View Post
    yup, we should insist to have the nominal idle speed set to 700 rpm. this should solve the problem. i hope this can be easily adjusted through MUT programming by the casa.

    lifting from the pages of the service manual, the following are the probable causes of incorrect idling speed:

    PROBABLE CAUSES


    Failed ignition system
    Failed fuel system
    Failed air-fuel ratio control system
    Failed intake and exhaust air system
    Failed exhaust gas cleaning system
    Contamination around the throttle valve
    Timing chain in out of place
    Improper compression pressure
    Failed variable valve timing control system
    Failed engine-ECU <M/T> or engine-A/T-ECU <A/T>
    Yes sir, i guess they can use the MUT to diagnose and adjust idling..


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    #3644
    Quote Originally Posted by babynos01 View Post
    *altec

    Sir, idle rpm nung akin is 700, not 730.
    Vbatt * engine off, no load = 13.5V
    Vbatt * engine on, no load, 700rpm = 14.5V
    Vbatt * engine on, with load (head lights, AC, radio), 700rpm = 14.5V
    Vbatt * engine on, with load (head lights, AC, radio), 900rpm = 14.7V

    Hope this helps sir.
    sir, just curious on how you managed to get these readings? voltmeter across the battery terminals or voltage readings from OBD port? 13.5V seems to be a bit high for a battery with no load. if i remember it right the nominal voltage for battery only is 12-ish and the charging voltage for most systems is 13.8V. i will try to connect a voltmeter across my battery terminals as well so we can get a comparison. thanks for your info.

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    #3645
    Quote Originally Posted by ctiongson View Post
    sir, just curious on how you managed to get these readings? voltmeter across the battery terminals or voltage readings from OBD port? 13.5V seems to be a bit high for a battery with no load. if i remember it right the nominal voltage for battery only is 12-ish and the charging voltage for most systems is 13.8V. i will try to connect a voltmeter across my battery terminals as well so we can get a comparison. thanks for your info.
    Voltmeter lang ginamit ko sir. wala akong OBD scanner e.
    Siguro, 3 months palang battery ko. Yung di-tubig.

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    #3646
    sa smv yung 4d56 eto lang ang idle speed


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    #3647
    Quote Originally Posted by ctiongson View Post
    yup, we should insist to have the nominal idle speed set to 700 rpm. this should solve the problem. i hope this can be easily adjusted through MUT programming by the casa.

    lifting from the pages of the service manual, the following are the probable causes of incorrect idling speed:

    PROBABLE CAUSES


    Failed ignition system
    Failed fuel system
    Failed air-fuel ratio control system
    Failed intake and exhaust air system
    Failed exhaust gas cleaning system
    Contamination around the throttle valve
    Timing chain in out of place
    Improper compression pressure
    Failed variable valve timing control system
    Failed engine-ECU <M/T> or engine-A/T-ECU <A/T>
    yung plate under my hood says 650 (+- 50). afaik yung 700 is for gas

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    #3648
    Quote Originally Posted by zix888 View Post
    yung plate under my hood says 650 (+- 50). afaik yung 700 is for gas
    Affirmative sir zix.. (6G7)

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    #3649
    Quote Originally Posted by prince777 View Post
    Affirmative sir zix.. (6G7)



    checked also the regulated voltage test, wala naman na mention regarding idle speed, puro check belts baka kulang ang tension. plus if the idling is stable and within the range, alternator/belts and ecu na ang dapat i-check.
    Last edited by zix888; October 7th, 2012 at 08:39 PM.

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    #3650
    Quote Originally Posted by babynos01 View Post
    *altec

    Sir, idle rpm nung akin is 700, not 730.
    Vbatt * engine off, no load = 13.5V
    Vbatt * engine on, no load, 700rpm = 14.5V
    Vbatt * engine on, with load (head lights, AC, radio), 700rpm = 14.5V
    Vbatt * engine on, with load (head lights, AC, radio), 900rpm = 14.7V

    Hope this helps sir.

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    #3651
    Quote Originally Posted by prince777 View Post
    Ok naman pala readings ko. Kasi nung nag voltmeter test ako, kakastart ko pa lang ng kotse nun e.
    Nung pinatay ko na, nasa first line palang yung temp reading sa dash.
    Try ko uli bukas kapag mainit yung engine.

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    #3652
    sir baka ako pwedi din maka hingi ng copy thanks po.
    Quote Originally Posted by zix888 View Post
    i will burn many copies, update na lang kung kelan ang kapehan, ayos ba yun sir prince? pero dapat yung nandito ka na para makita naman mga epektos mong uwi, hehe

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    #3653
    Quote Originally Posted by prince777 View Post
    Max size so far that it can read is 16GB. Even formatted to FAT32, it wont read the 320GB HDD. What i did is create partitions of 16GB for each type of media (music, movies, etc) on my 60GB HDD. This idea also came from a montyner. ;)
    Hi Sir Prince, do you mean ba na partitions of 16GB is to create sa loob ng HDD by folder? TIA

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    #3654
    Quote Originally Posted by prince777 View Post
    Kakabalik ko lang sir to work, less than 2wks pa lang. Dec pa sunod. Nakita na nung isang tsikoteer na kaibigan ni the_mechanic yung epektos ko!
    sir prince, sabi nun friend ko e ang dami daw laman nun kargamento mo. hahaha.. type nga daw nya yun "Ralliart" mo na emblem kaso di daw nya nabili kasi baka daw masibat sya ng misis nya. :aray:

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    mga Sirs my tatanong lng po ako...ginamit kc ng erpat ko ung monty..eh nag alarm tpos wla pa ako..alarm ng alarm eh nataranta na erpat ko kc hndi nya matigil..usually isasara mo lng lahat ng pinto and make sure all locked sabay pindot ng lock and unlock sa key..sa sobrang taranta at ayaw na daw tumigil ng alarm.. tinanggal nya battery, not the battery itself kundi tinanggal lng nya isang batttery terminal.. wala po bang marereset sa computer box nun? kc dba po naka configured na ung program nya?? Thanks mga Sirs..

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    #3656
    Quote Originally Posted by sirhcacal View Post
    mga Sirs my tatanong lng po ako...ginamit kc ng erpat ko ung monty..eh nag alarm tpos wla pa ako..alarm ng alarm eh nataranta na erpat ko kc hndi nya matigil..usually isasara mo lng lahat ng pinto and make sure all locked sabay pindot ng lock and unlock sa key..sa sobrang taranta at ayaw na daw tumigil ng alarm.. tinanggal nya battery, not the battery itself kundi tinanggal lng nya isang batttery terminal.. wala po bang marereset sa computer box nun? kc dba po naka configured na ung program nya?? Thanks mga Sirs..

    just the memory of the MIS will be reset. okay nga sir yung hard reset once in a while(removing battery - terminal). nakakatamad lang mag program ulit nung radio stations, hehe

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    #3657
    Quote Originally Posted by the_mechanic View Post

    Hi Sir Prince, do you mean ba na partitions of 16GB is to create sa loob ng HDD by folder? TIA
    Correct sir ;)..

    If you have a 60GB, pwede apat na partitions..

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    #3658
    Quote Originally Posted by the_mechanic View Post

    sir prince, sabi nun friend ko e ang dami daw laman nun kargamento mo. hahaha.. type nga daw nya yun "Ralliart" mo na emblem kaso di daw nya nabili kasi baka daw masibat sya ng misis nya. :aray:
    Oo nga sir! Hehe

    Di ko na binuyo masyado baka awayin ni esmi nya..

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    #3659
    Quote Originally Posted by prince777 View Post
    Correct sir ;)..

    If you have a 60GB, pwede apat na partitions..

    Thanks sir prince sa reply. actually di ko pa na-try yun ganun. kaso di ko lang alam kung ok sya sa 500GB na HDD. hehehe

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    #3660
    Quote Originally Posted by zix888 View Post
    just the memory of the MIS will be reset. okay nga sir yung hard reset once in a while(removing battery - terminal). nakakatamad lang mag program ulit nung radio stations, hehe
    Hi Sir Zix, thanks po sa reply! akala ko maapektuhan pati ung comp box! oo sir ive heard pag naka sound setup kayo marereset ung configurations setup ng sounds. Ok lang at hindi pa naman ako naka setup ng sounds.. hehe.. Sir Zix anu ba ung MIS? un ba ung sa memory ng alarm?

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