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    #701
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Supply, soil or rain spouts? Common on 'industrial' influenced homes. Some even on commercial applications. Was awed by how they converted the old Nabisco factory into Chelsea Market (pic below...good lobster.[emoji4]).
    As advocates of low/easy maintenance construction, the thrust is to try avoiding roof gutters where possible....w/ the catchment on the ground instead of up the roof. No unsightly spouts, nothing to spend on & no leaks to repair.
    On bath supply lines, embed em on the outer side of walls for easier repair access in leak cases. One doesn't need to go chipping tiles this way.



    water supply. Maganda nga pag magpatayo ng bahay sa dulo-dulo lagi comfort room tapos sa labas na lahat daanan. Unsightly pero wala sakit ulo. Walang titibagin.

    Sa condominum yan ang problem mga tulo.

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    #702
    Yan din inisip ko sa design ng haus namin, I placed the 2F T&B above the garage, so if there is a problem with leaks, di maabala i-repair, compared to now where sa ibabaw siya ng kitchen namin, na tumulo na dati but fortunately not the pipes but the bath floor had no waterproofing. Ang takbo din ng water and sanitary lines ay along the perimeter of the house and shallowly embedded para madali palitan just in case.

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    #703
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Allow me to share you the common sources of leaks & respective approaches we do for concrete firewalls:

    1. Rotting gutters that rest on firewalls.
    In our case, there was a portion of the firewall which was not plastered because it was built hugging the rain gutter of the neighbor. I can have it repaired naman but the problem is bulok na yung extension ni neighbor, so kung gagalawin ko ang gutter niya baka bumigay pa yung buong extension, laking gastos pag nagkataon. Hinayaan ko na lang, nag leak lang naman pag may ulan, and only on heavy and prolonged downpours.

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    #704
    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Yan din inisip ko sa design ng haus namin, I placed the 2F T&B above the garage, so if there is a problem with leaks, di maabala i-repair, compared to now where sa ibabaw siya ng kitchen namin, na tumulo na dati but fortunately not the pipes but the bath floor had no waterproofing. Ang takbo din ng water and sanitary lines ay along the perimeter of the house and shallowly embedded para madali palitan just in case.
    On slabs that will have potential water problems, if you can't go w/o ceiling, there are removable metal & vinyl ceiling panels. They're a good way to eliminate collateral damage.
    Practical & Low-Maintenance designs are conceived on the drawing board where errors on paper just go to the waste bin. This is where the value & experience of a designer surfaces. The best ones are those who design/build as if these were for own use.

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    #705
    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    In our case, there was a portion of the firewall which was not plastered because it was built hugging the rain gutter of the neighbor. I can have it repaired naman but the problem is bulok na yung extension ni neighbor, so kung gagalawin ko ang gutter niya baka bumigay pa yung buong extension, laking gastos pag nagkataon. Hinayaan ko na lang, nag leak lang naman pag may ulan, and only on heavy and prolonged downpours.
    If you can build a new wall along your side & devise (in between the fire & new walls) some floor trench drainage to relieve the water from the leaky firewall, it will save you a lot. Unless you wanna rid the root....your neighbor's gutter.[emoji4]

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    #706
    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    In our case, there was a portion of the firewall which was not plastered because it was built hugging the rain gutter of the neighbor. I can have it repaired naman but the problem is bulok na yung extension ni neighbor, so kung gagalawin ko ang gutter niya baka bumigay pa yung buong extension, laking gastos pag nagkataon. Hinayaan ko na lang, nag leak lang naman pag may ulan, and only on heavy and prolonged downpours.
    Try mo pioneer watertite 102 apply mo both sides.

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    #707
    Coatings address symptoms temporarily. Reapplication will involve thorough cleaning & layer stripping if a new incompatible type is to be applied on a previously coated surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Coatings address symptoms temporarily. Reapplication will involve thorough cleaning & layer stripping if a new incompatible type is to be applied on a previously coated surface.

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    I think yung problem nya is no plaster yung side na dikitan ng gutter nung neighbor nya kaya me seepage ng water papunta sa kanya ayaw naman nya galawin yung gutter baka masira pa nya at paayos pa na mas gagastos pa sya. What do you think he should do?

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    #709
    Yes, ganun nga, I need to remove the gutter to plaster and waterproof that portion, but just like an old car, if you strip the paint to metal, maraming lilitaw na bulok, and I might just end up replacing the whole car.

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    #710
    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Yes, ganun nga, I need to remove the gutter to plaster and waterproof that portion, but just like an old car, if you strip the paint to metal, maraming lilitaw na bulok, and I might just end up replacing the whole car.
    I won't allow myself to be held hostage by stuff I hardly have control over. Gutters rot, plaster cracks, coatings fail & leaks will recur.
    I'd seek permission from the neighbor for access & gutter tweaking to install metal roofing vertically + proper top cap over the problem source. Headache solved. Peace of mind....happily ever after.
    Oh, give water a lot of respect. We won't want to see its wrath.[emoji4]

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    #711
    Quote Originally Posted by 2lits17 View Post
    I'm looking for a contractor that do house repairs. I need to repair our firewall, after 3 years there's a lot of leaking that is coming out of our whole wall that is exposed to sun and rain from 3rd floor to ground floor.

    yan problema sa mga bahay na gawa na nung binili, you will not know the quality of the materials. so after a few years pagawain na.

    if anyone know any realiable, trusted and hinde taga mag presyo na contractor please PM me.
    we had the same problem, before, in our bespoke house (no short cuts, dilutions, etc.). when it started leaking, we did everything... tar... "waterproof paint" at libitum... etc. etc.
    nothing worked.

    finally, out of desperation, we tacked on, flat GI sheets, starting near-bottom upwards, with the necessary overlap. hayun! wala na tulo.
    at that time, there were no such things as be-spoke sheets with folds, etc, etc. unlike today.

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    #712
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    we had the same problem, before, in our bespoke house (no short cuts, dilutions, etc.). when it started leaking, we did everything... tar... "waterproof paint" at libitum... etc. etc.
    nothing worked.

    finally, out of desperation, we tacked on, flat GI sheets, starting near-bottom upwards, with the necessary overlap. hayun! wala na tulo.
    at that time, there were no such things as be-spoke sheets with folds, etc, etc. unlike today.
    Well depende yan sa neighbor mo kung papayag na gawin mo yan [emoji16]

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    #713
    Quote Originally Posted by maxpedition View Post
    Well depende yan sa neighbor mo kung papayag na gawin mo yan [emoji16]

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    that is where neighborly cooperation comes in.
    i believe some financial compensation is an effective method of getting cooperation.

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    #714
    Easy fix lang yan. Encounter it so many times in my projects

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    #715
    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    I won't allow myself to be held hostage by stuff I hardly have control over. Gutters rot, plaster cracks, coatings fail & leaks will recur.
    I'd seek permission from the neighbor for access & gutter tweaking to install metal roofing vertically + proper top cap over the problem source. Headache solved. Peace of mind....happily ever after.
    Oh, give water a lot of respect. We won't want to see its wrath.[emoji4]

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    Hey, thanks sir! I didn't think of this fix! Your right, i'll see if I can slide a flat G.I sheet between my wall and their gutter, and the put a flashing over this sheet.

    Nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Hey, thanks sir! I didn't think of this fix! Your right, i'll see if I can slide a flat G.I sheet between my wall and their gutter, and the put a flashing over this sheet.

    Nice!
    Anytime. Hope you'll get it sorted, sir.

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    thanks sa mga advice mga sir. i was also thinking of putting a GI sheet sa wall nalang or yero or stainless sheets kaso mag mumukhang warehouse yun bahay namen. hehe.

    i was able to talk to a contractor and they told me they will redo the waterproofing and maganda daw yun pang waterproof nila unlike sa mga nabibili lang sa hardware. i dont know how good it is though. mataas kasi yun wall namen 3 floors, un 2nd and 3rd floor open kasi bungalow lang kapitbahay then somewhere between ground floor and 2nd floor yun alulod ng kapitbahay maliit lang so pag malakas ulan tumatalsik sa wall namen so after 1 year palang may pumapasok na water na sa part na yun ng wall, then we engage a "contractor" to fix it, after 1 year tulo na ulet yun part na ni repair, plus madami na din tulo from 2nd to 3rd floor. whats worse when we do an occular check we saw concrete nails nakapako sa wall namen ginawang talian ng net ng alulod ng kapitbahay, which the contractor said na dapat iseal ng vulcaseal if not dun din mag cause ng water seepage.

    i'm not sure magkano sisingilan sa ganun repair, firewall waterproofing plus repair din ng inside part ng firewall. they will also check yun dulo ng firewall and roof if maayos pagkakagawa kasi pwede din daw dun pumasok yun water.

    dont underestimate the water talaga, it already damage our wood flooring sa 3rd floor and may nasira na din na kisame sa 2nd floor because of water. sakit sa ulo.


    What does flashing means? alam ko is cover of something.. is it correct?

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    #718
    I am thinking of buying a Promate Portable Generator PH3000, 2500 watts and it goes for 12,540 at Olx for my ongoing house construction. I wanted to buy a Honda 750 watts but aside from being expensive, it may not even power the kawasaki/fujihama water sprayer for termiticide application. Planning also to use for welding of roof, etc.

    Anyone have feedback with this particular genset? Or better recommendations? Will probably sell it right after at maingay ito sa gabi, it's just for use from 8am-5pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    I am thinking of buying a Promate Portable Generator PH3000, 2500 watts and it goes for 12,540 at Olx for my ongoing house construction. I wanted to buy a Honda 750 watts but aside from being expensive, it may not even power the kawasaki/fujihama water sprayer for termiticide application. Planning also to use for welding of roof, etc.

    Anyone have feedback with this particular genset? Or better recommendations? Will probably sell it right after at maingay ito sa gabi, it's just for use from 8am-5pm.
    Welding? I haven't any 1st hand feedback, but I'm doubtful that can stand the task.

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    Thanks sir travajante, I made a quick check, those cheap yamato inverters need at least 3.8kva pala.

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