Does school really matter?

[Ry_Tower]

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Kapalmuks, hindi ikaw TS. Si Ciz, 2014 pa yun. Matindi talaga sayad mo.

[dr. d]

bagay.. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
daddy kags..

what about,
"amang kagalingan" !
heh heh.

[bugsmobile]

what about,
"amang kagalingan" !
heh heh.

Or may tamang kagalingan? Hehe

[_Cathy_]

It looks like for some, hindi lang sa job hunting, pati sa dating world school matters?

I read this post on another forum about a guy who is thinking of taking a second course because he always gets rejected when girls find out that he's not from a "top school". I am not gonna include the usernames and link, search niyo na lang sa alasjuicy

BTW yung engr friend ko na mild mannered nainis na sakin kaka basa ko ng reddt na naughty subs LOL! Tigil tigilan ko na daw because it's poisoning my mind because that's not how normal people are, yun din naman sabi ng ibang guy friends ko. I can't really say kasi mga 20s usually andun e we're over a decade older kung talaga bang napaka casual na ng s3x ngayon

PHR4R is close to forcing me to get another degree

I am an engineering graduate complete with masters on IT. I work on a specific side of IT as a Data Analyst and Engineer. I am on top of my field and is actually licensed to practice this job on multiple platforms and countries. Yet pag sagot ko sa phr4r, people always ask "Are you from Big 4?" I answer no then immediately the chance goes away. Im no slouch and can keep up a convo yet I am always gatekeeped because I didnt graduate sa Big 4. Im interested in taking a law degree since being a lawyer is my dream but I think if my goal is to study law just to be a part of a Big 4 school then Id rather not go back. Anyways rant over. Share your biggest gatekeeps sa Phr4r hahaha

This guy is SPOT ON, kung prospect/date, but for ONS, it doesn't make sense to me because personally if I were looking for a ONS, I would want to be anonymous. Ang liit liit ng mundo especially sa MM, I have tons of examples of how shocked I am na my friends and family are connected pala in some way. Good thing I don't ONS, wala ako ganyan problema

Getting a law degree from a big 4 school still doesn’t work and I’ll tell you why. Manila is a very small place when you go to the big 4 for college. It’s an environment where you’re not more than two degrees of separation to the cool kids. She’ll be like “do you know so and so?” And you should answer back along the lines of “yeah I know her she used to date my friend and we hung out before” blah blah.

This girl from Ateneo explains why she prefers top schools din for ONS

Speaking as someone from the blue school, I get it because I tend to be picky too. Just to give some insight as to why some people are like that even if ons lang is because of vibes and security. This isn’t to say that someone can’t vibe with someone depending on their background or you’re a bad/dangerous person if you don’t go to any of those schools, but the chances are significantly higher. The same way some of you guys refuse to sleep with a BBM/Duterte supporter, some of us would prefer to sleep with someone that we at least know isn’t deplorable. Education can’t dictate everything, but it does have a great deal of influence on someone’s value system. Going to the blue school, per example, I’m assured that a good deal of the student population is as liberal as I am. Even the language a ***ual partner and I will converse in will be more or less assured depending on the school one goes too. Also, at least if it’s Big 4, I am more likely to trust someone based on affiliation. There’s a safety net so to speak. If something happens, as a girl, I can find them. The world is very, very, very small for people like us. Aside from this, let’s please stop pretending *** is just ***. Do y’all not talk to your partners before or after? Do you not try to at least be friendly with them? It required too a level of connection, even for a night, to be satisfying. Maybe that’s just me though.

Natawa ako dito, what some guys would go through to get laid LOL

Gusto ko yung takeaway mo is magpapakahirap ka mag aral ulit for free k**t*t. Imbes na “ok cool edi wag. Hanap ng mas compatible”. For me if yan ang unang tanong, tapos di ka big 4 edi next, no big deal.

Mas kita mo character ng tao when you tell them no. E kung pikon ka at gagawa ka ng post just because di ka maka”score” what does that say about you?

Tl;dr mas mura mag ayos ng ugali vs get a degree for landi

[uls]

pinag usapan na months ago dunno what's surprising about using school as a screening tool to find dates

if you're looking for someone from your socio-economic class (para same culture) what better filter is there than school?

[misseksaherada]

curious pa din ako kay TS.. hanggang post #85 lang nabasa ko.. gusto ko sana malaman kung nakatapos na ba sya at anong school.. at kung boss na sya ngayon ng kumpanya nila.. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] at kung natuloy pa din sya mag-abroad/migrate.. friends pa din kaya sila ng mga kaibigan nya kaya sya nahirapan mamili ng school.. [emoji28]
natuwa lang din ako sa flow nung usap, akala ko obvious naman ang sagot, straightforward na yes.. pero wow! ang dami pala masisipag mag-post sa tsikot nun.. [emoji1319]

[uls]

Gusto ko yung takeaway mo is magpapakahirap ka mag aral ulit for free k**tot. Imbes na “ok cool edi wag. Hanap ng mas compatible”. For me if yan ang unang tanong, tapos di ka big 4 edi next, no big deal.

baka ambisyoso ung guy gusto niya maka score ng alabang girl

kung "hanap ng mas compatible" meron nga papatol pero ordinary lang ayaw niya ordinary

[uls]

poveda alumni to friend: "hey i met nice guy, he went to LSGH"

friend: "you can't see him"

"why?"

"we're canceling everyone who went to LSGH"


haha

[misseksaherada]

Nagbasa uli ako, umabot na ako 700+, pero hindi na nag-post si TS.. Hinanap ko talaga ano ending, kung naka-graduate na ba sya at kung natuloy na sya sa London..
Nakakatuwa pag-usapan ang school.. Sa colleagues ko, gusto ko yung mga leads ko dati na galing UP.. Ang taas ng respeto ko sa kanila, weird (nerd) pero ang galing talaga.. Sa programming skills kasi hate na hate ko na yung array and cursor, tumatagal ako sa analysis kapag ganun na ang kailangan na logic.. Tapos last resort ko na, chat ako sa lead ko, with crying emoji.. Sabi niya nasaan ka ba, puntahan kita.. Sabi ko ako na pupunta, nasa ibang building pala sya nun.. Ayun, nung nahanap ko na sya, umupo ako sa tabi niya.. Mga 15-30 mins lang nagawa na nya.. Pero while doing it, tinatanong niya din ako kung nakukuha ko ba logic, parang exam na knowledge check din sakin kung nakuha ko ba.. Nung natapos na, sobrang saya ko kasi hindi ko na kailangan mag-spend ng oras.. Dun talaga tumaas respeto ko sa kanya..
Yung mga Managers ko naman nun from Ateneo and gusto ko din ang managerial skills nila.. One time meron ako nagawang mali, honest mistake and sinabi ko lahat ng ginawa ko.. May nananakot pa sakin nun na baka matanggal ako sa work.. [emoji28] After 1 week, naging ok na at nag-move on na ang lahat.. Minsan nagka-kwentuhan kung ano ba nangyari sa ginawa ko, no idea ako sa impact hindi nila sakin sinabi.. Lead ko from UP ang nag-share, na para ma-resolve yung issue na ginawa ko kailangan pa mag-helicopter ng mga IT to restore from hardware yung data na na-delete ko.. [emoji33][emoji33][emoji33] Yung Manager ko hindi ako ni-reprimand, after lang nung issue meron uli kami meeting kaya pala nya ako tinatanong ng mga logic, knowledge check pala sakin yun.. Nasagot ko naman mga tanong nya (sa totoo lang kasi, pinag takpan ko din yung nag-train sakin nun.. iba ang steps na binigay nya sakin.. hindi ko alam kung namali ba sya or gusto nya ako mapahamak, pero never ko binanggit name nya.. Ni-own ko lang yung issue wala ako dinamay na iba).. After nung meeting, wala naman sya sinabi kung ano ba impact nung mali ko.. Kung hindi pa sa informal na kwentuhan namin nung lead ko, hindi ko malalaman..
Ending.. Recession nung time na yun at top secret kung mabibigyan ka ng raise sa pay.. At malaki pa din ang increase ko, yung ibang colleagues ko umamin na wala sila increase (baka siguro malaki na sahod nila) pero ako tahimik lang na meron ako sa kabila ng lahat na dapat siguro tanggal na ako sa work..
So sino hindi matutuwa sa UP Lead at Atenean Manager ko.. Super like!!
May mga common na ugali depende sa school.. Nakaka-aliw lang kapag minsan matanong ang school may realization (ahhhhhh!! kaya pala).. hihihihi [emoji2960]
And tama yung sabi ni minicarp, common sa maingay yung mga jologs.. [emoji16]
Mas ok pa din na may knowledge ka para gamitin ang weaknesses and strengths ng mga tao, mas maganda may diversity.. Hindi ako galing sa top university (obvious naman).. Pero tulad nga ng sabi nila meron mga exceptions..
(Dito na papasok yung hindi applicable na ang school kapag may experience ka na)
Ang skill ko lang siguro ay maging masaya and less stressful ang working environment.. Sa mga naging team ko, once na-assign na ako sa new role nagre-resign na ang mga tao, yung iba nawawala na visibility sa management.. Sana nakikita ng mga boss din yan (marami mga boss dito).. May mga tao na sila ang nagki-keep ng balance ng team minsan hindi sila ang nasa management pero ang respect nakukuha niya.. Yung tipong team building pero kapag hindi sumama yung key person na yun madami na mag-back out..
Hindi ako competitive, pero nagiging smooth yung sa work ko.. Kahit hindi ako naghahanap, inu-offer sakin ng mga boss ko yung mga opportunities.. Ang reward lang sakin at sumasaya ako.. Kapag yung tao dati na tingin nila masungit pero kapag naka-interact ko na sumasaya.. Pati ang mga tao sa paligid natutuwa sakin kapag nakikita nila na sumasaya yung taong akala nila bato ang puso.. And dun ko nakukuha naman yung respect ng colleagues ko sakin.. Kaya lahat masaya, win-win sa lahat ng anggulo.. Kapag nakikipag-interact kasi ako hindi ko tinitingnan ang background and position.. Hindi ako na-iintimidate, nakikipag kwentuhan lang ako na parang friend ko sila.. Minsan nagugulat na lang ako, matatas na tao na pala yung kakwentuhan ko.. Ang sarap kasi nila kausap ang dami matutunan at mga self-realization.. Late ko na malalaman, kaya naman pala!! Big Boss na sya!!
Balik sa topic.. Importante pa din ang school kahit mga jologs alam yan.. Mabilis ka makakarating sa gusto mong career path kapag meron ka magandang educational background..
Sa mga di pinagpala sa pera at talino, hindi pa din naman tapos ang buhay kahit wala kang magandang educational background.. Expect mo lang mas mahihirapan ka sa daan na susuungin mo..
At sa mga exceptions, na madami category nyan.. sobrang talino, yung iba naman sobrang madiskarte at mga risk taker.. May iba naman na maswerte lang talaga, walang rule na applicable.. swerte ka (maganda/gwapo, matalino, maganda posture and fashionable tapos magaling pa social skills hindi tamad) - kahit wala ka magandang educational background, hindi ka mahihirapan.. [emoji16] Kahit saan ka ilagay magsa-succeed ka..

[uls]

At sa mga exceptions, na madami category nyan.. sobrang talino, yung iba naman sobrang madiskarte at mga risk taker.. May iba naman na maswerte lang talaga, walang rule na applicable.. swerte ka (maganda/gwapo, matalino, maganda posture and fashionable tapos magaling pa social skills hindi tamad) - kahit wala ka magandang educational background, hindi ka mahihirapan.. [emoji16] Kahit saan ka ilagay magsa-succeed ka..

badtrip mga edukado sa mga nag succeed na di edukado

kasi yan ang turo sa kanila -- kailangan magtapos sa pag aaral para umasenso

yan ang rule

tapos makita nila artista naging politiko, street vendor naging milyonaryo, squatter naging top youtuber

unfair daw ang buhay haha

[misseksaherada]

Hehehe.. ang masasabi ko lang kapag lagi ka lang sa bahay at hindi ka game sa video call.. mahirap umusad sa panahon ng pandemic..
Ang mga boss pumapasok sa office.. [emoji16]
May mga may-ari ba ng kumpanya dito na straight bahay lang ngayong pandemic? Curious lang ako...

Kahit mga successful youtuber, masisipag sila lumabas.. kasi walang content kapag lagi lang sa bahay..

Mga stock investors lang ata kilala ko na minsan lang lumabas ng bahay.. pero nagta-travel naman sila para gastusin pera nila.. hehehe [emoji16]

Kaya hindi na importante school ngayon lalo na kung ang demand ng work ay lumabas ng bahay.. mas marami na opportunity sa iba na willing lumabas (risk takers)..

[uls]

kaya i think school acts more as a socio-economic indicator than anything

you tell people what school you went to they know where to place you sa socio-economic hierarchy

pag galing ka sa top school you get more opportunities (sa corporate world) coz the top people went to those schools and are more likely to hire alumni

kaya ganito ang society natin (wealth concentrated at the top)

a top school diploma is your ticket into that exclusive club

and in relation to dating, belonging to the top schools club naturally makes people more attractive for obvious reasons

membership in the club is like a peacock's tail

[misseksaherada]

pag galing ka sa top school you get more opportunities (sa corporate world) coz the top people went to those schools and are more likely to hire alumni

kaya ganito ang society natin (wealth concentrated at the top)

a top school diploma is your ticket into that exclusive club

Ok lang sakin yun.. Ang mahal kasi ng tuition nila, malaki ang puhunan lugi naman kung may equal opportunity para sa mga halos wala pa ata dalawang libo tuition per sem..
Sa mga mahihirap, dapat huwag nila isipin na unfair.. Angat din talaga experience ng mga mayayaman sa mahihirap.. Na-expose na ang mayayaman sa malawak na point-of-view bata palang.. Ang mahirap, busy lang sa sarili nila para maka-survive.. Hindi nila nakikita ang "big picture"..
Sa mahirap, one chance lang magka-experience sa work samahan ng sipag at sikap.. Makakahabol din sila.. More effort nga lang..

[Egan101]

kaya i think school acts more as a socio-economic indicator than anything

you tell people what school you went to they know where to place you sa socio-economic heirarchy

pag galing ka sa top school you get more opportunities (sa corporate world) coz the top people went to those schools and are more likely to hire alumni

kaya ganito ang society natin (wealth concentrated at the top)

a top school diploma is your ticket into that exclusive club

and in relation to dating, belonging to the top schools club naturally makes people more attractive for obvious reasons

membership in the club is like a peacock's tail

kaya i think school acts more as a socio-economic indicator than anything

you tell people what school you went to they know where to place you sa socio-economic heirarchy

pag galing ka sa top school you get more opportunities (sa corporate world) coz the top people went to those schools and are more likely to hire alumni

kaya ganito ang society natin (wealth concentrated at the top)

a top school diploma is your ticket into that exclusive club

and in relation to dating, belonging to the top schools club naturally makes people more attractive for obvious reasons

membership in the club is like a peacock's tail

Sadly, the reality is that money talks. If you don’t have it, you’re relegated to the bottom. If you don’t have the means, you can’t afford better things - education included.

I have shared meals with some really poor folks when I was participating in outreach work for the Jesuits. These people couldn’t afford basic medicines. One family was even so happy when I shared with them canned luncheon meat and sausages that I brought as my ration. What they earn on planting crops is just enough to keep them living. Most barely could attend high school. Parents would force their kids to help in the farm to put more food for the family.

There are a few middle class who strive to get over the hump and live a better life. They can buy nice houses, a few cars, afford luxury items, or take vacations outside the country. However, they are still not within the same lifestyle as the truly rich.


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[uls]

misseks,

gets ko sinasabi mo

you don't need to go to top school to succeed financially

pero sa lipunan natin meron isa pang klaseng discrimination bukod sa yaman

ung hindi lang pera ang basehan

meron isang boksingero naging bilyonaryo nakabili ng bahay sa forbes pero ni-reject ng Manila Golf Club

kasi ayaw nila makita ang jolog entourage ng boksingero sa loob ng kanilang club (well, jolog din ung boksingero so that's also a reason)

discrimination based on pedigree

hindi sapat ang pera

pati ung ninuno mo tinitingnan nila

kaya di mo masisi mga bagong asenso gumawa ng sariling club (not literal)

ung tinatawag kong counter-elite

do you see what i see

[misseksaherada]

Nangyayari yan sa simpleng work environment.. Isa kasi ako sa mapapalad na nakapasok sa program ng company about Diversity and Inclusion.. Isa ata ako sa first batch na sinubukan na nila mag-hire ng hindi sa top universities at "babae".. Yes, ang mga IT nun lagi mga lalaki.. [emoji2960]
Ang hula ko, mas mababa basic namin compared sa top universities.. Ang nangyari, kahit hindi naman namin gusto bumukod pero may mga tao talaga na iniisip ang background.. Yung sample na eksena sa office kapag UAAP season [emoji16].. Kapag wala ka sa top university, out of place ka di ka maka-relate..
Gradually, nagkaroon tuloy ng ibang group na hindi galing sa top universities.. Pero to be fair naman sa mga colleagues ko na galing top universities, mabait naman sila.. Well sa akin [emoji16], kasi nga hindi ko pinapansin ang background.. May mga topic kasi talaga na only the rich can relate..
Sa mga mahihirap na hindi masikmura yun, mayabang agad tingin nila.. Sa akin, time to learn yun sa point-of-view ng mga mayayaman..
Pero tulad nga ng example mo sa mundo ng super rich mas matindi.. Given na sakin yun, may mga tao talaga na ayaw nila makahalubilo ang jologs.. Kahit kwentuhan lang, makikita mo umi-exit na sa background..
Ok lang dapat yun.. I don't see it na may mali.. Kanya-kanyang preference yan.. Kung ayaw nila huwag.. Si Pacman, hanap na lang sya alternative.. Marami pa rin naman tao na open minded na welcome kahit mayaman or mahirap.. Kung sobrang yaman na sya gawa na din sya ng exclusive club na welcome lang ang dating mahirap na sobra-sobra na yaman.. Hehehe [emoji16]

[uls]

re: UAAP

if you ever saw live game sa araneta coliseum (i'm talking about years ago di ko alam saan ginaganap ang games ngayon)

makikita mo ang difference ng crowd

pag game ng NU, adamson etc... medyo common tao lang ung crowd, di masyado trapik, di napupuno parking

pero pag game ng DLSU vs ADMU... puro luxury sedan, SUV, may naka uniporme pa drayber, sobra trapik, punong puno ang parking

puro konyotic parents, titos and titas...

don't look at UAAP as a whole... may social hierarchy within UAAP

[misseksaherada]

ang mga mayayaman, I don't see them na ka-competition namin.. ibang level ng competition yung kanila.. Tulad nga ng nabanggit na dito, kapag top university ka aiming ka dun sa Shell, P&G at iba pa.. At iba din level ng stress dun.. Yung 65K to 80K na starting salary.. Bakit hindi? tama lang yun kapag nagtapos ka sa top universities.. Sa level palang ng tuition fee lugi puhunan mo kapag mag start ka 25K? Hindi sila entitled, meron naman sense kung mag-demand sila..
And kung mahal ang tuition syempre expect ka na maganda turo dun at training.. Magbabayad ka ba ng mahal na hindi naman ok ang quality of education..
Nag-work na ako sa P&G Office sa Makati.. At may ka-edad ako Manager na nung Project, pero hindi biro ginagawa nya.. Hindi na nga daw sya nakakatulog ng ayos.. Kasama namin that time mga foreigners na P&G din, grabe ang pressure.. Lalo na kapag ikaw ang Project Manager..
Kapag mataas na din sweldo, malaki na din responsibility and syempre hindi din madali ang trabaho..
Do I see it unfair? Hindi..
Kaagaw ko ba ang mga galing sa top universities sa job openings.. Hindi, kasi dapat dun sila mag-apply sa pang mayaman din.. Hehehe [emoji16]
Ay... May isa pala kami kaagaw sa job opportunity.. Yung mga sobrang yaman na mga galing sa top universities na gusto lang mag-experience ng work pero may mga sarili namang businesses.. Tapos nandun lang sila para maiba lang.. [emoji28] Madalas mga Chinese, tapos nerd.. [emoji1308]

[uls]

bwahaha chinese tapos nerd

[misseksaherada]

bwahaha chinese tapos nerd

hahahaha sorry naman nilagyan ko pa ng "nerd".. Madalas kasi sa kanila mga poker face, mababait at matatalino, ang topic namin lagi manga at anime.. mga gamers din.. hirap na hirap ako patawanin, kapag napangiti ko at napapa-iling na lang sakin ang saya ko na.. [emoji16]
At lagi sila arranged marriage.. Kaya cool kasama wala ka iisipin na may hidden agenda.. At... lagi malabo mata.. Sorry na talaga.. Kaya naiisip ko lagi "nerd", kapag i-drawing ko kasi yun yung typical character ng nerd..