Does school really matter?

[jick.cejoco]

But a fresh PMA graduate is a tiniente already vs a praybayt from a non-PMA academe.

It does matter even in the military.

academy people are different. first, qualify to enter the academy, pass the entrance test, pass the rigors of plebehood, yearling, cow and a firstie. in other words, he or she will have been a soldier or a military member for at least four years. imagine to be a cadet of the long gray line you have to compete for a single slot of say an opening of 300, thousands compete to be in the first 300, enlisted however, after boot camp, they become privates but never sergeants

[jut703]

some of these kids who graduated from the "top" schools have their noses up in the air. filipinos always love name dropping. of course you do not start from the top when you first get hired unless you came from another company from a moderate to high position. but if the applicant is a fresh graduate, it does not matter from which school, he will not start as a ceo unless he has learned the ropes. similar to the military, you do not start as a major when you graduate from the academy. you've got to earn the battle scars to earn the medals and the brass.

It's not about starting as a CEO, but having a higher starting position compared to others.

Eto general (so may exceptions) observation ko from our batch:

Honor grads from good school - 40k and up

Good school grads - 25k and up

Regular school grads - 15k and up

From there siyempre yung mga tunay na magaling, kahit sa baba nagsimula, makakahabol. Yung mga on-paper lang magaling, mahahabol din ng iba. Pero yung mga magaling tapos mataas nagsimula, namamaximize yung opportunity given to them.


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[jut703]

but in the real world kids with well-connected parents really do get high paying jobs

To be fair, marami sa friends ko na masipag at magaling talaga, hindi gumamit ng magulang para makapasok kahit ubod ng yaman magulang nila.

Ang napansin ko, yung mga patapon pa yung may nerve na gumamit ng magulang para makapasok sa maayos na kumpanya. Nakakakulo ng dugo. But then again life is unfair.


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[jick.cejoco]

Ang napansin ko, yung mga patapon pa yung may nerve na gumamit ng magulang para makapasok sa maayos na kumpanya. Nakakakulo ng dugo. But then again life is unfair.



you see, life is unfair. the chances of getting hired are subjective, depending upon the applicant or the prospective employer,
depending if the applicant looks gorgeous in a micro skirt to a nyakis employer, depending if the applicant is owed a favor, too many mitigating factors. sometimes your diploma goes out the door. nobody wins all the time.

[cardict]

The moment we're born,we started to learn,time for schooling teaches us about everything we'll never learn from experiences,so school really matters,besides life is a continuing experience and learning

[crazy_boy]

but in the real world kids with well-connected parents really do get high paying jobs

Apprentice agad ni Sr. Manager or ni VP.

Supervisor agad sa sariling company or sa company nang kaibigan ni Papang.

may kaibigan akong ganito. well connected parents niya. nakapag hanap ng trabaho sa isang Philippine company na may office and factory sa China. Executive Assistant agad ni CEO. i know magaling siya, but hindi ako bilib sa kanya

[jut703]

you see, life is unfair. the chances of getting hired are subjective, depending upon the applicant or the prospective employer,
depending if the applicant looks gorgeous in a micro skirt to a nyakis employer, depending if the applicant is owed a favor, too many mitigating factors. sometimes your diploma goes out the door. nobody wins all the time.

But just because there are a few who get to places unfairly, doesn't mean that you won't try to cover all bases by graduating from a good school with honors, while developing a good work ethic, and developing people and leadership skills by being active in orgs.


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[CVT]

Totoo yan.

May neighbor kami na graduate sa isang never heard na school sa mindanao, w/ honors. 2 pa kurso tinapos.

Unfortunately wala gusto kumuha sa kanya. Bagsak nya sa landmark, saleslady.

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Bro.,- Saleslady pa rin ba siya? Ilan taon na siya?

Kawawa naman iyan....Kung mako-contact mo,- baka gusto niya ng trabaho,- as Customer Service Representative/Planner... Puwede siyang mag-apply,- she has to start somewhere in the corporate world,- kaysa masayang naman ang pinag-aralan niya (may honors pa siya) diyan sa pagiging Saleslady.... I am certain that this job will open up opportunities for her here or abroad.....



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[jick.cejoco]

But just because there are a few who get to places unfairly, doesn't mean that you won't try to cover all bases by graduating from a good school with honors, while developing a good work ethic, and developing people and leadership skills by being active in orgs.


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it is a free country. you can try, keyword: try the best you can. but face it, you are talking about the philippines. but there are no guarantees just because you graduated from a exceptional school. there are more odds you have to overcome unless you are either exceptional or you are connected or the prospective employer owes your family a really big favor, or you have the advantage

[jut703]

it is a free country. you can try, keyword: try the best you can. but face it, you are talking about the philippines. but there are no guarantees just because you graduated from a exceptional school. there are more odds you have to overcome unless you are either exceptional or you are connected or the prospective employer owes your family a really big favor, or you have the advantage

You only work with what you can change. No use crying over the fact that your parents aren't well connected. But you can work on becoming an exceptional student so you can enter a good school, and then work even harder to get honors, join competitions, hold org leadership positions.

At least kahit papano, napataas mo yung chances mo of a better corporate career, and you also maximized all the opportunities available to you. No guarantees parin, but you did your best and that's really all that matters.


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[CVT]

You only work with what you can change. No use crying over the fact that your parents aren't well connected. But you can work on becoming an exceptional student so you can enter a good school, and then work even harder to get honors, join competitions, hold org leadership positions.

At least kahit papano, napataas mo yung chances mo of a better corporate career, and you also maximized all the opportunities available to you. No guarantees parin, but you did your best and that's really all that matters.


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Bro,- saang school/course ka ba bro.,?- At baka magka-tsoka (organization) pa tayo niyan....


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[shadow]

i can't blame the big multinational companies kailangan mabilis ang pag process nila kaya pag hinde ka galing ng top 3 universities, tapon agad resume mo...but nakakagalit lang yun ganyan, dapat equal opportunities kahit anong school ka pa galing, parang lahat ng work laging meron "with experience" eh kung hinde mo bibigyan ng chance yun mga walang expereince paano na? unemployed na lang sila habangbuhay?

[jut703]

Bro,- saang school/course ka ba bro.,?- At baka magka-tsoka (organization) pa tayo niyan....


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Ateneo bro. MEA yung org ko, Management Engineering Association. 😊

Alam ko kulay berde ka diba? Hehehe. Team Mika Reyes ako though so magkakasundo tayo 😻


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[CVT]

i can't blame the big multinational companies kailangan mabilis ang pag process nila kaya pag hinde ka galing ng top 3 universities, tapon agad resume mo...but nakakagalit lang yun ganyan, dapat equal opportunities kahit anong school ka pa galing, parang lahat ng work laging meron "with experience" eh kung hinde mo bibigyan ng chance yun mga walang expereince paano na? unemployed na lang sila habangbuhay?

That is an answer my sister used in her first employment.....

"Kung hindi ninyo ako iha-hire,- paano ako magkaka-experience?"....

Hired kaagad... :hysterical:



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[_Qwerty_]

starting salary 40k and up?? san yan bro?

It's not about starting as a CEO, but having a higher starting position compared to others.

Eto general (so may exceptions) observation ko from our batch:

Honor grads from good school - 40k and up

Good school grads - 25k and up

Regular school grads - 15k and up

From there siyempre yung mga tunay na magaling, kahit sa baba nagsimula, makakahabol. Yung mga on-paper lang magaling, mahahabol din ng iba. Pero yung mga magaling tapos mataas nagsimula, namamaximize yung opportunity given to them.


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[Red Advent 04]

:old::old::old:






nakaka miss yaang buhay studz..wala ka iisipin nun kung panu maka kupit sa baon!

[Ry_Tower]

starting salary 40k and up?? san yan bro?

Ganyan talaga kapag Honors Course diba jut703.

Nakakainis talaga yang parang may discrimination sa school, pero yan reality so far. Dami kasi nag-aapply, kunti vacancy. Marami talaga ang hindi mapagbibigyan.

[jick.cejoco]

Reality check:
Ideal world vs. real world.
Miles apart


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[CLAVEL3699]

kahit saang school.. kung san kaya kang pag aralin nang magulang mo.. ang mahalaga.. pagbutihin mo ang pag aaral mo.. pagandahin mo ang transcript mo.. yan ang magiging bala mo para makakuha nang magandang trabaho..

Ako po ay hindi naniniwala dito... makakuha ka nga nang magandang trabaho pero po pagkatapos noon? Tandaan ang makakuha nang magandang trabaho ay hindi po nagtatapos doon eto po ay isang simula lamang sa tunay na buhay.

ikaw ba ay tataas nang pwesto? or mananatili ka lang sa likod nang lamesa. Madami po akong kilala na matatalino noong college pero ano po sila ngayon... pareho pa din hindi man lang umakyat nang posisyon.

Pagsisikap at konesksyon ang kailangan upang umangat. May isa akong staff dati na tiga Agila matalino at may kaalamanan pero isang bagay ang kulang sa kanya ang MAKINIG... ayon hanggang ngayon ganun pa din ang posisyon.

ang pakikinig ay dito napapaunlad ang nalalaman.

[miLes]

I don't believe that the school you went into will bring you to the top. It's the person's skills and will that will determine a person's success.

It should be "ME" that will carry the name of my school, and not the other way around.

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will not bring you to the top but could hinder your full potential.

example: you are a good driver, where will you perform better? on a crappy car or a tuned up car?