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    If yes, is it a place or just a state of mind?

    I just remembered what my Lola told me that people who take their own lives go straight to hell. Some people say that their lives are already hell. hehe.
    Last edited by _Cathy_; February 25th, 2009 at 12:34 AM.

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    Siguro, meron nga......

    Kasi, yung lasinggerong neighbor namin, pag nag-aaway yung mag-asawa, eto naririning ko:

    "Lecheng buhay ito! Mula nung napangasawa kita,.......impiyerno buhay ko!"


    Seriously, parang state of the mind lang ito. Parang panakot lang ba.

    Di ba diyan nakatira si Taning?

    [SIZE="1"](baka ma-close ulit ito, Cathy ah....)[/SIZE]
    Last edited by chua_riwap; February 25th, 2009 at 12:51 AM.

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    Hmm.. I'm not sure.. But what I believe in is that there's a superior being that created everything from nothing. Appreciating things that I have now is more interesting for me than thinking about hells and demons.

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    people create their own hell. its just a state of mind. people dwell on so much crap in their heads that they think theyre in hell for suffering like that. but they never do crap about it they just sit on their asses and dwell on it and be all delusional

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    If you believe in God, you believe in Satan.

    They have THE SAME EXACT evidence of existing, and God even says he's real.

    One cannot be without the other. This for the believer.

    What I believe that HELL is not a specific place...that it is your experiences. There are moments of life that can be hellish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    If yes, is it a place or just a state of mind?

    I just remembered what my Lola told me that people who take their own lives go straight to hell. Some people say that their lives are already hell. hehe.
    It's simply a matter of faith. If you believe in heaven, then there must be it's polar opposite which in Christianity is called hell. Hell can be anything from being a spiritual place or a state of mind.

    If the mind cannot distinguish between a "place" or "state of mind", would the difference matter? The state of mind would be a "real place" in regards to the person's point of view.

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    if there is heaven, there is also hell. pero eto naman ang tanong, do you believe in purgatory? remember dante's divine comedy (yun ba yun, tagal na kasi), the hell, purgatory, and heaven parts?

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    oo naman totoong me Hell read below:

    Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)? Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle’s Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant.
    One student, however, wrote the following:
    First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let’s look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell.
    Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle’s Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.
    This gives two possibilities:
    1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.
    2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
    So which is it?
    If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, “It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,” and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over.
    The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct…… leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting “Oh my God.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by testament11 View Post
    if there is heaven, there is also hell. pero eto naman ang tanong, do you believe in purgatory? remember dante's divine comedy (yun ba yun, tagal na kasi), the hell, purgatory, and heaven parts?
    nah!

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    No I don’t. We got them from the tyrants that came in the 15 century. They invented and inserted it to the minds of our ancestors as shield, guard and weapon to get their original interest and intentions which was what??? Hmmm Too long
    Last edited by XTO; February 25th, 2009 at 10:17 AM.

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    heaven and hell during lifetime is temporal.....
    heaven and hell after death is eternal....
    for the believers, God is Holy, to be with Him, one must be holy, the reason for purgatory....

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    I do believe in hell both after life and in life... That's all I will have to say.

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    so XTO when you die you think that's the end na? Like wala ng soul na pupunta sa heaven or hell?

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    ^^everyday there's this conscious effort to believe that there is. the belief just make my soul at peace with the things i see around me despite the chaos generated by my environment. it impels me to do something, no matter how minute, directed for HIs greater honor and glory. i always pray that i won't get apathetic or jaded with what's happening around me, much less, corrupt my soul.

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    no soul
    no heaven
    no hell

    sorry folks we're just organisms on an insignificant planet. our origin we do not know but we might just be an experiment by a superior life form...

    or maybe the universe was designed to just randomly spawn life. really don't know...

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    Do people who kill themselves go straight to hell or purgatory? I remember when I was little we went to the wake of a distant relative who killed himself and he wasn't blessed by the church.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    so XTO when you die you think that's the end na? Like wala ng soul na pupunta sa heaven or hell?
    Yes even you hehe, and no one who died ever came back to tell their tales to us that there is such heaven or hell. Kaya nga it is the best motive and became a very effective a weapon by intruder / conqueror when almost all of our native ancestors were still mangmang

    Basta sa akin, let us accept God hanggang buhay tayo because after we die, kahit ipagpamisa tayo sa lahat ng simbahan, ibayad tayo ng mas mahal sa mga pari, at tirikan tayo ng kandila na sing lalaki ng poste ng meralco, wala nang saysay yun because we will be judged based on our mga pinag-gagawa nung mga buhay pa tayo.

    As much as possible ayaw ko na mag post sa mga ganitong thread Cathy, mga ganitong tipo kasi ang mga na CLOSE na noon.

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    im agnostic. we really cant tell if heaven and hell truly exist.
    but sometimes im thinking that religion was invented or made to control people and not for eternal salvation of their souls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTO View Post
    Yes even you hehe, and no one who died ever came back to tell their tales to us that there is such heaven or hell. Kaya nga it is the best motive and became a very effective a weapon by intruder / conqueror when almost all of our native ancestors were still mangmang

    Basta sa akin, let us accept God hanggang buhay tayo because after we die, kahit ipagpamisa tayo sa lahat ng simbahan, ibayad tayo ng mas mahal sa mga pari, at tirikan tayo ng kandila na sing lalaki ng poste ng meralco, wala nang saysay yun because we will be judged based on our mga pinag-gagawa nung mga buhay pa tayo.

    As much as possible ayaw ko na mag post sa mga ganitong thread Cathy, mga ganitong tipo kasi ang mga na CLOSE na noon.
    Amen to this.

    Jesus said no one can go to my father except thru me. So maliwanag na walang makakatulong sa iyo kundi and diyos para hindi ka itapon sa HELL.

    No offense to all, just a question.
    Kapag ang tao ay yumao. Nasaan ba ang langit na ating minimithi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by v6dreamer View Post
    Amen to this.

    Jesus said no one can go to my father except thru me. So maliwanag na walang makakatulong sa iyo kundi and diyos para hindi ka itapon sa HELL.

    No offense to all, just a question.
    Kapag ang tao ay yumao. Nasaan ba ang langit na ating minimithi?
    as a catholic yes i believe.

    v6, i think ang god lang makaksagot nyan.

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