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    If yes, is it a place or just a state of mind?

    I just remembered what my Lola told me that people who take their own lives go straight to hell. Some people say that their lives are already hell. hehe.
    Last edited by _Cathy_; February 25th, 2009 at 12:34 AM.

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    Siguro, meron nga......

    Kasi, yung lasinggerong neighbor namin, pag nag-aaway yung mag-asawa, eto naririning ko:

    "Lecheng buhay ito! Mula nung napangasawa kita,.......impiyerno buhay ko!"


    Seriously, parang state of the mind lang ito. Parang panakot lang ba.

    Di ba diyan nakatira si Taning?

    [SIZE="1"](baka ma-close ulit ito, Cathy ah....)[/SIZE]
    Last edited by chua_riwap; February 25th, 2009 at 12:51 AM.

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    Hmm.. I'm not sure.. But what I believe in is that there's a superior being that created everything from nothing. Appreciating things that I have now is more interesting for me than thinking about hells and demons.

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    people create their own hell. its just a state of mind. people dwell on so much crap in their heads that they think theyre in hell for suffering like that. but they never do crap about it they just sit on their asses and dwell on it and be all delusional

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    If you believe in God, you believe in Satan.

    They have THE SAME EXACT evidence of existing, and God even says he's real.

    One cannot be without the other. This for the believer.

    What I believe that HELL is not a specific place...that it is your experiences. There are moments of life that can be hellish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    If yes, is it a place or just a state of mind?

    I just remembered what my Lola told me that people who take their own lives go straight to hell. Some people say that their lives are already hell. hehe.
    It's simply a matter of faith. If you believe in heaven, then there must be it's polar opposite which in Christianity is called hell. Hell can be anything from being a spiritual place or a state of mind.

    If the mind cannot distinguish between a "place" or "state of mind", would the difference matter? The state of mind would be a "real place" in regards to the person's point of view.

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    if there is heaven, there is also hell. pero eto naman ang tanong, do you believe in purgatory? remember dante's divine comedy (yun ba yun, tagal na kasi), the hell, purgatory, and heaven parts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by testament11 View Post
    if there is heaven, there is also hell. pero eto naman ang tanong, do you believe in purgatory? remember dante's divine comedy (yun ba yun, tagal na kasi), the hell, purgatory, and heaven parts?
    nah!

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    No I don’t. We got them from the tyrants that came in the 15 century. They invented and inserted it to the minds of our ancestors as shield, guard and weapon to get their original interest and intentions which was what??? Hmmm Too long
    Last edited by XTO; February 25th, 2009 at 10:17 AM.

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    so XTO when you die you think that's the end na? Like wala ng soul na pupunta sa heaven or hell?

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    heaven and hell during lifetime is temporal.....
    heaven and hell after death is eternal....
    for the believers, God is Holy, to be with Him, one must be holy, the reason for purgatory....

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    I do believe in hell both after life and in life... That's all I will have to say.

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    oo naman totoong me Hell read below:

    Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)? Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle’s Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant.
    One student, however, wrote the following:
    First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let’s look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell.
    Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle’s Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.
    This gives two possibilities:
    1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.
    2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
    So which is it?
    If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, “It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,” and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over.
    The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct…… leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting “Oh my God.”


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    ^^everyday there's this conscious effort to believe that there is. the belief just make my soul at peace with the things i see around me despite the chaos generated by my environment. it impels me to do something, no matter how minute, directed for HIs greater honor and glory. i always pray that i won't get apathetic or jaded with what's happening around me, much less, corrupt my soul.

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    no soul
    no heaven
    no hell

    sorry folks we're just organisms on an insignificant planet. our origin we do not know but we might just be an experiment by a superior life form...

    or maybe the universe was designed to just randomly spawn life. really don't know...

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    We are surrounded by corrupt politicians aren't we? So YES I do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis Raines View Post
    We are surrounded by corrupt politicians aren't we? So YES I do!
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    Hell is other people.

    Jean-Paul Sartre, Closed Doors (1944)
    French author & existentialist philosopher (1905 - 1980)
    http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/30237.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis Raines View Post
    We are surrounded by corrupt politicians aren't we? So YES I do!
    "Nevertheless, it could be said that you will lead a better, fuller life if you bet on his not existing,..."
    IMO, the latter is the line of thinking of these corrupt politicians. If these politicians believe that they'll be accountable to God on their wrongdoings, siguro wala tayong corruption.

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    of course mayrong hell and its on our day to day life. lucky if you didn't encounter it yesterday, maybe today or maybe tomorrow, but surely its around us in our life's journey. you hear poeple say " ...impyernong buhay 'to" but of course some say... " heaven at last!"

    but regarding sa hell-after-death... eh sabi nga ng iba eh we'll findout na lang sa takdang panahon.

    IMO. -i just can't think of any logical reason why God the most merciful and all knowing ay gagawa ng such a horrendous place for some if not most of His beloved creation's final destination.

    pang balance lang, kasi kung may naghihintay na 'heaven' syempre may 'impyerno' din.

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    just IMO & belief:

    Quote Originally Posted by dbuzz View Post
    IMO. -i just can't think of any logical reason why God the most merciful and all knowing ay gagawa ng such a horrendous place for some if not most of His beloved creation's final destination.
    hell as final destination is man's own choice & freewill...if he had not been obedient (or at least tried to be obedient) to the basic commandment of "to love God and to love thy neighbor"...

    Quote Originally Posted by vito corleone View Post
    can't we just simply treat each other humanely simply because it is required of the situation and without the thought of an eternal reward in heaven or eternal damnation in hell?. .
    yes as exemplified by Jesus and by heeding to His basic commandment above...

    I hope may equivalent din yung commandment sa ibang religion and beliefs......PEACE

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