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    so XTO when you die you think that's the end na? Like wala ng soul na pupunta sa heaven or hell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy_for_you View Post
    so XTO when you die you think that's the end na? Like wala ng soul na pupunta sa heaven or hell?
    Yes even you hehe, and no one who died ever came back to tell their tales to us that there is such heaven or hell. Kaya nga it is the best motive and became a very effective a weapon by intruder / conqueror when almost all of our native ancestors were still mangmang

    Basta sa akin, let us accept God hanggang buhay tayo because after we die, kahit ipagpamisa tayo sa lahat ng simbahan, ibayad tayo ng mas mahal sa mga pari, at tirikan tayo ng kandila na sing lalaki ng poste ng meralco, wala nang saysay yun because we will be judged based on our mga pinag-gagawa nung mga buhay pa tayo.

    As much as possible ayaw ko na mag post sa mga ganitong thread Cathy, mga ganitong tipo kasi ang mga na CLOSE na noon.

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    im agnostic. we really cant tell if heaven and hell truly exist.
    but sometimes im thinking that religion was invented or made to control people and not for eternal salvation of their souls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTO View Post
    Yes even you hehe, and no one who died ever came back to tell their tales to us that there is such heaven or hell. Kaya nga it is the best motive and became a very effective a weapon by intruder / conqueror when almost all of our native ancestors were still mangmang

    Basta sa akin, let us accept God hanggang buhay tayo because after we die, kahit ipagpamisa tayo sa lahat ng simbahan, ibayad tayo ng mas mahal sa mga pari, at tirikan tayo ng kandila na sing lalaki ng poste ng meralco, wala nang saysay yun because we will be judged based on our mga pinag-gagawa nung mga buhay pa tayo.

    As much as possible ayaw ko na mag post sa mga ganitong thread Cathy, mga ganitong tipo kasi ang mga na CLOSE na noon.
    Amen to this.

    Jesus said no one can go to my father except thru me. So maliwanag na walang makakatulong sa iyo kundi and diyos para hindi ka itapon sa HELL.

    No offense to all, just a question.
    Kapag ang tao ay yumao. Nasaan ba ang langit na ating minimithi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by v6dreamer View Post
    Amen to this.

    Jesus said no one can go to my father except thru me. So maliwanag na walang makakatulong sa iyo kundi and diyos para hindi ka itapon sa HELL.

    No offense to all, just a question.
    Kapag ang tao ay yumao. Nasaan ba ang langit na ating minimithi?
    as a catholic yes i believe.

    v6, i think ang god lang makaksagot nyan.

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    sa totoo lang, as much as i want to believe na meron, it does not make a lot of sense for me na meron heaven and hell... so parang doubtful ako. mga 70% of me says na malabo may heaven and hell and 30% still hangs on to a little bit of faith.

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    Agree with XTO.:angel3:

    For me, it's still better to believe in God and in life after death: whether in heaven or in hell; than not to believe at all. kasi ang lifespan natin is just a grain of sand in the ocean of eternity. is it worth the risk if we don't believe while we are living? :evil:

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    Hell- for a catholic is a very hot place where you're spirit is unrested
    Hell for a particular mind - is the surrounding itself.. namputsa namang buhay ito parang impyerno, sobrang init dito parang impyerno (nakapunta na cguro to sa hell)

    Hell in the bible - did not state what is it like.. but it refer to a grave or a place of the dead

    and about purgatory = Never read any about this in the bible


    So what do you believe in?
    it is better for this thread to be close.. as this point to your faith and belief

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    then, bakit nagpoint out si dante ng purgatory? and even describe what's inside the purgatory?

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    hell yeah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by valvura View Post
    For me, it's still better to believe in God and in life after death: whether in heaven or in hell; than not to believe at all. kasi ang lifespan natin is just a grain of sand in the ocean of eternity. is it worth the risk if we don't believe while we are living? :evil:
    valvura is talking about Pascal's Wager.
    Pascal's Wager (or Pascal's Gambit) is a suggestion posed by the French philosopher Blaise Pascal that even though the existence of God cannot be determined through reason, a person should "wager" as though God exists, because so living has everything to gain, and nothing to lose.
    Anti-Pascal wager
    Richard Dawkins argues for an "anti-Pascal wager" in his book, The God Delusion. "Suppose we grant that there is indeed some small chance that God exists. Nevertheless, it could be said that you will lead a better, fuller life if you bet on his not existing, than if you bet on his existing and therefore squander your precious time on worshipping him, sacrificing to him, fighting and dying for him, etc."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_wager

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    No!

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    don't know nothin' 'bout paschal's wager. what i posted is my opinion and belief.
    it all boils down to Faith vs. Reasoning....

Do you believe in Hell?