Do maids have to wear a uniform?

[boybi]

Perception is a way of life. When you step out of the house and in public, you cannot remove the perception that other people will think of you. So i think the benefit of this thread is that those of you who insist on having your maids wear a maid uniform in public, atleast now you know how people will think about you. Maybe you are right, maybe others are wrong, but one thing is certain - it will be difficult to change people's perception when they see you in public with a uniformed maid.

But I'm sure that there will be some of you that despite the opinions posted here, I'm sure it will be hard for you to accept that a maid joining your family while malling will have to be in civilian attire. For some reason, there will always be a compelling need for you to let the general public know who is the maid and who are the family members in your entourage.

well, i don't care about those negative perceptions as long as i don't maltreat my yayas, as long as i see them very happy with their jobs, as long as they are proud to be the nannies of my children.

now, how do you differentiate prejudging others and perception?

[BoyFerrari]

now, how do you differentiate prejudging others and perception?

It's like just because your name sounds Arabic, you will be double-checked by airport security compared with the rest of the plane passengers. Many people have issues with "discrimination". So whatever your good intentions are, people who see you will wonder why you are practicing discrimination.

Discrimination, whether real or imagined, will always leave a bad taste. Why not eliminate the cause of wrong perception eventhough you haven't done anything wrong? It's not like your family will not survive if your maids will not wear a uniform in public.

Anyway, I'm just arguing here. I'm not really suggesting to you to alter your family preferences.

[Flagg]

oo nga... ano kabwisit dun?

Baka pareho suot ni yaya sa aso?

[chua_riwap]

sa mga tsikoteers na nagpapa suot ng white uniform sa mga maids ninyo: ano ang mararamdaman ninyo kung kayo ang pinapasuot ng white uniform sa public places like malls at restaurants ??

He-he! Sapol!

Hindi lang degrading at discriminatory, sa akin inhuman yan.

[boybi]

Why not eliminate the cause of wrong perception eventhough you haven't done anything wrong?

OT: so let us remove GMA from malacanang because the public have a perception that she cheated the elections and is corrupt.

OT: in the US, during the time when racial discrimination was rampant, why didn't the african american just went back to their native countries?

BTT: why in the first place would you look at uniformed yayas as discriminatory? don't you think it is a decent job that they should hide any trace of being one whenever they are in public?

[Flagg]

But that doesnt make it an absolute. Other people like me have a different view of things. I see it as decent work. its not prostitution. its not swindling. it harms no one.

Excuse me sir uls, I think prostitution is a very noble profession...

[boybi]

sa mga tsikoteers na nagpapa suot ng white uniform sa mga maids ninyo: ano ang mararamdaman ninyo kung kayo ang pinapasuot ng white uniform sa public places like malls at restaurants ??

if it is required of my job, gagawin ko. lalo na kung mahal ko ang aking trabaho.

He-he! Sapol!

Hindi lang degrading at discriminatory, sa akin inhuman yan.

inhuman pala ang ating government na nagpapasuot ng mga uniform sa mga teachers sa public schools; ang mga establishments na nagpapasuot ng uniform sa kanilang mga staffs? at sa mga janitorial services na nagpapasuot ng uniform na meron nakasulat sa likod na JANITOR or MAINTENANCE sa kanilang mga janitors?

[Flagg]

hmmm....a very lousy excuse! pwede naman kumain yung katulong later for as long as meron ng pagkain na nai-order/nai-serve para sa kanila. yung post ni yebo...wala talagang pagkain yung 2 katulong.

Ooohh how very fun to be judgmental. Didn't you read clavel's entire post?

Does that mean I can judge na you're s****d cuz you have a sailing pic as your sig in a CAR forum? Ehehe, buti nalang di me like you.

[Flagg]

Perception is a way of life. When you step out of the house and in public, you cannot remove the perception that other people will think of you. So i think the benefit of this thread is that those of you who insist on having your maids wear a maid uniform in public, atleast now you know how people will think about you. Maybe you are right, maybe others are wrong, but one thing is certain - it will be difficult to change people's perception when they see you in public with a uniformed maid.

But I'm sure that there will be some of you that despite the opinions posted here, I'm sure it will be hard for you to accept that a maid joining your family while malling will have to be in civilian attire. For some reason, there will always be a compelling need for you to let the general public know who is the maid and who are the family members in your entourage.

I guess that since this is the general public's perception, then it's ok. Hmm, in that case, someone should've reminded that nice old negro lady (Rosa Parks) that the "niggers" should give up their bus seats to whites.

[chua_riwap]

inhuman pala ang ating government na nagpapasuot ng mga uniform sa mga teachers sa public schools; ang mga establishments na nagpapasuot ng uniform sa kanilang mga staffs? at sa mga janitorial services na nagpapasuot ng uniform na meron nakasulat sa likod na JANITOR or MAINTENANCE sa kanilang mga janitors?

Sir Boybi, alam mo naman ang madlang Pinoys, iba ang dating sa kanila pag nakikita nila yung maid na naka-uniform pa.

Eto pa, minsan meron akong natanungan ng ganyan, na kung bakit naka-uniform sila, sabi ng mga maids, "Ayaw nga namin sanang isuot, pero wala kaming magawa, utos ni Ma'm." Mandatory raw.

[hens]

hehehe..parang mas ok na sakin ang mag-suot ng uniform na pang yaya/maid.. kesa mag-suot ng uniform pang pulis (lahat tingin sakin buwaya) opss di ko ninalahat ng pulis ha..peace

[boybi]

Sir Boybi, alam mo naman ang madlang Pinoys, iba ang dating sa kanila pag nakikita nila yung maid na naka-uniform pa.

yan nga ang hindi ko maintindihan, bakit bukod tanging mga maid/yaya lang ang parang nakakahiyang maguniform. bakit ang janitor hindi? paulit ulit ko ng binabanggit ito.

Eto pa, minsan meron akong natanungan ng ganyan, na kung bakit naka-uniform sila, sabi ng mga maids, "Ayaw nga namin sanang isuot, pero wala kaming magawa, utos ni Ma'm." Mandatory raw.

e kahit na anong trabaho, sinasabihan ka naman kung ano ang dapat mong isuot kapag natanggap ka. pwede bang tumanggi ang mga secretary na hindi magsuot ng company uniform nila kung required sila? kung ayaw mo e di magresign ka or magapply ka sa iba.

[BoyFerrari]

BTT: why in the first place would you look at uniformed yayas as discriminatory? don't you think it is a decent job that they should hide any trace of being one whenever they are in public?

See, that's how you actually deal with perception - you either live with it or change yourself to change the perception. People are entitled to their perceptions, just like you are entitled to require your maids to wear uniforms in public. This thread is just an exchange on how people view such things.

About discriminating the maids, many Filipinos don't view maids or yayas as their employees. They know their hardships in life and they don't have academic credentials, otherwise why would they work as maids? So as a result, most "amos" try their best to treat their maids as if they belong to the family. The concept of "belonging-ness" or "part of the family" thingy. So when you require a maid to wear a uniform in public, nasira yung bond of "belonging-ness", the maid is no longer "part of the family". Filipinos have a sentimental culture. Sensitive ang Pinoy sa "mayaman versus mahirap" na concept. Kaya nga sumikat sina FPJ and Erap. So when you practice something which exposes a perception that your family is RICH and the maid is POOR by having her wear a uniform in public, many folks take notice of that. It doesn't really matter how much you are paying the maid because the public doesn't know those details (remember, we are on "perception" here).

That's the psychology behind the maid in uniform in public. Many people don't treat their maids as their "employees". They treat them as their own. The way you treat your maid is not visible to the public. All they see is the uniform emphasizing that you are the boss and she is the maid. That's all they care about.

[boybi]

Ooohh how very fun to be judgmental. Didn't you read clavel's entire post?

Does that mean I can judge na you're s****d cuz you have a sailing pic as your sig in a CAR forum? Ehehe, buti nalang di me like you.

i was about to say that. bakit kaya yung part na yun lang ang na quote nya?

[Flagg]

He-he! Sapol!

Hindi lang degrading at discriminatory, sa akin inhuman yan.

E kung Armani uniform nila... degrading pa rin ba?

Ang swerte mo naman sir chua, you don't have to wear a uniform. Seriously, kung maid me, I'll wear a uniform cuz it's part of my job.

When I go to my clients, I am made to conspicuously wear a "Supplier" ID that shows everyone in their company that I'm fair game kasi supplier lang naman me. I never fail to wear it. I am proud to be a Supplier of my clients.

My maids wear uniforms for the simplest reason for having a uniform... so it's easier to see/find them.

[chua_riwap]

hehehe..parang mas ok na sakin ang mag-suot ng uniform na pang yaya/maid.. kesa mag-suot ng uniform pang pulis (lahat tingin sakin buwaya) opss di ko ninalahat ng pulis ha..peace

[Flagg]

Eto pa, minsan meron akong natanungan ng ganyan, na kung bakit naka-uniform sila, sabi ng mga maids, "Ayaw nga namin sanang isuot, pero wala kaming magawa, utos ni Ma'm." Mandatory raw.

Sir chua, would you also ask them which steps to take next in order to further your career? Asking them about their uniforms is kinda lame... kinda like asking you why you should pay 2% more VAT. Wala ka rin magawa. Mandatory raw.

[boybi]

See, that's how you actually deal with perception - you either live with it or change yourself to change the perception. People are entitled to their perceptions, just like you are entitled to require your maids to wear uniforms in public. This thread is just an exchange on how people view such things.

About discriminating the maids, many Filipinos don't view maids or yayas as their employees. They know their hardships in life and they don't have academic credentials, otherwise why would they work as maids? So as a result, most "amos" try their best to treat their maids as if they belong to the family. The concept of "belonging-ness" or "part of the family" thingy. So when you require a maid to wear a uniform in public, nasira yung bond of "belonging-ness", the maid is no longer "part of the family". Filipinos have a sentimental culture. Sensitive ang Pinoy sa "mayaman versus mahirap" na concept. Kaya nga sumikat sina FPJ and Erap. So when you practice something which exposes a perception that your family is RICH and the maid is POOR by having her wear a uniform in public, many folks take notice of that. It doesn't really matter how much you are paying the maid because the public doesn't know those details (remember, we are on "perception" here).

That's the psychology behind the maid in uniform in public. Many people don't treat their maids as their "employees". They treat them as their own. The way you treat your maid is not visible to the public. All they see is the uniform emphasizing that you are the boss and she is the maid. That's all they care about.

so this also holds true with regards to a family driver. kahit walang uniform ang driver, its pretty obvious na driver nga sya dahil sya ang may hawak ng manibela. and a lot of families also treat their drivers as part of the family. now, having him drive the car would just be tantamount to showing everybody that he is just a driver, that the owner of the car is RICH and the one driving the car is POOR. so what to do in this situation? fire the driver? or let the driver stay home and water the garden? or yung driver nalang kaya ang maging yaya at yung yaya ang magdrive?

[BoyFerrari]

yan nga ang hindi ko maintindihan, bakit bukod tanging mga maid/yaya lang ang parang nakakahiyang maguniform. bakit ang janitor hindi? paulit ulit ko ng binabanggit ito.

Kasi nga, yung maid there is a more "personal" attachment to it. Wala naman sigurong janitor na nagta-trabaho sa bahay nyo. Dito sa village namin, meron akong mga kapitbahay na merong hired drivers ng kotse nila. The drivers don't wear any uniform. Disente naman kahit jeans tapos t-shirt with collar. If their drivers will start wearing white overalls with matching pilot cap, I definitely will take notice.

People have different perceptions between SERVANTS and EMPLOYEES. Janitors are employees so people don't have a fuzz about them wearing uniforms. But maids and yayas are servants. People have a more emotional attachment to servants. Because servants serve "your personal needs".

The thing is, you treat your servants as employees also. It's not that there's something wrong with that. I'm just explaining why people view maids differently.

[Flagg]

yan nga ang hindi ko maintindihan, bakit bukod tanging mga maid/yaya lang ang parang nakakahiyang maguniform. bakit ang janitor hindi? paulit ulit ko ng binabanggit ito.

Alam niyo naman mga ipokrito sir boybi, pag wala nang masagot... paulit ulit nalang ng reklamo.

I've seen those 'mabait kapamilya' families with casually-clothed maids in tow. I see them a lot... Si Inday e may dalawang baby bag at may payong pa, minsan lahat yan pati si baby. O di kaya'y lahat ng shopping ni Mam ay dala ni Inday, si Sir aba dala lang nya pwet ni Mam.

Let's not judge based on the uniform...