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  1. Join Date
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    #61
    Quote Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699
    honestly ang ibang post ang labo... medyo pa good boy effect...

    sana binabayaran natin sila nang tama at may SSS po ba sila?

    Yan muna sana ang isipin natin before we say we degrade them coz they wearing a uniform.

    Reality check lang po sa mga good boy.

    Finally, some sense.

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    nice one zero... so ang may pakana ng uniforms sa maid ay walang iba kundi si MISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699
    Sa mall naman security purposes pa din para madali marecognize nang guard if itatakbo na anak mo.
    wala naman atang pakialam ang mall management kung naka uniform ang maid na dala ng customers nila... and besides, kung gugustuhin talaga ng isang tao gumawa ng masama...kesehodang naka uniform man o hindi, gagawa talaga ng masama yun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baiskee
    wala naman atang pakialam ang mall management kung naka uniform ang maid na dala ng customers nila... and besides, kung gugustuhin talaga ng isang tao gumawa ng masama...kesehodang naka uniform man o hindi, gagawa talaga ng masama yun.
    yes meron po.

    Yung yaya dati nang sister ko nakauniform sya required by the agency na nagbigay.

    Lumabas kasama ang anak nya sya lang hindi kasama sister ko. Sinita nung guard nang shangrila saan daw pupunta dinala sa office nang security at page ang sister ko.

    Pero ang totoo bumalik lang nang kotse para kumuha nang damit nang pamangkin ko para palitan hindi naniwala yung guard kay dinala sa office.

    Soso mall really dont have care about this pero may mga mall meron sila pakialam sa mga clients nila.

    And also im just protecting my interest at anak ko pinag uusapan and i dont care what will hypocrites feels and think as long hindi ko tinatrato na basahan at binabayaran ko nang tama and take note kasama SSS and medical card nya. I dont give a damn about it.

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    #64
    Quote Originally Posted by uls
    its a hypocritical society we live in. We replace "katulong" with "kasambahay". we treat them like family, eat the same food, buy them stuff.... but cant pay them a decent wage.

    Naka-Duster lang maid namin sir! and i don't give a damn.

    Yes, i dont pay SSS for my "kasambahay"... dahil 20 yrs na sya sa amin at dahil isang hamak na rank and file employee lang kami ni esmi noon and can't afford pa to pay that SSS. We have an understanding, loyal and devoted kasama sa bahay...a 60 yrs old widow from Pangasinan w/ a son na pinapag-aral namin, a graduating nursing student sa UST. Lumaki ang mga anak namin sa kanyang pag-aaruga and they call her "Inay". She is diabetic now at kami naman ang nag-aaruga sa kanya dahil sa serbisyo nya sa amin. So, kailangan pa ba nya ng SSS?
    Pagamot na namin sya at graduating pa anak nya?

    naniniwala ba kayo sa kasulatan: "Magbigay kayo at bibigyan kayo ng Diyos: Hustong takal, siksik, liglig at umaapaw pa ang ibibigay sa inyo. Sapagkat ang takalang ginagamit ninyo sa iba ay sya ring gagamitin ng Diyos sa inyo"...So, treat your maid as yourself.

    Peace to all!

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    #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Tikoyman
    Naka-Duster lang maid namin sir! and i don't give a damn.

    Yes, i dont pay SSS for my "kasambahay"... dahil 20 yrs na sya sa amin at dahil isang hamak na rank and file employee lang kami ni esmi noon and can't afford pa to pay that SSS. We have an understanding, loyal and devoted kasama sa bahay...a 60 yrs old widow from Pangasinan w/ a son na pinapag-aral namin, a graduating nursing student sa UST. Lumaki ang mga anak namin sa kanyang pag-aaruga and they call her "Inay". She is diabetic now at kami naman ang nag-aaruga sa kanya dahil sa serbisyo nya sa amin. So, kailangan pa ba nya ng SSS?
    Pagamot na namin sya at graduating pa anak nya?

    naniniwala ba kayo sa kasulatan: "Magbigay kayo at bibigyan kayo ng Diyos: Hustong takal, siksik, liglig at umaapaw pa ang ibibigay sa inyo. Sapagkat ang takalang ginagamit ninyo sa iba ay sya ring gagamitin ng Diyos sa inyo"...So, treat your maid as yourself.

    Peace to all!

    Nice to hear that. Saludo po ako sa inyo.

    regarding SSS. Opo. nasa batas na po yan at karapatan po nila na mabayaran ang SSS nila.

    Naniniwala din po ako kung akoy tutulong hindi po ako dapat magbilang at wala syang dapat kabayaran. " Ayon po yan sa aking inay na tinuro sa akin habang akoy lumalaki"
    Last edited by CLAVEL3699; March 23rd, 2006 at 03:14 PM.

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    #66
    jeez.pati pala uniform ng maids pag aawayan pa.

    as what kimpoy said, depende sa situation.pano kung kasal tapos wala silang maayos na damit? a uniform is a must, imho.

    tama din nagsasabi na bakit ang mga janitor..naka uniform din namn ah.ano masama sa uniform??

    and i agree with the wage thing. imbis na uniform ang puntiryahin niyo, ayusin ang paswledo sa mga maids na nagpapakahirap araw araw tanggalin ang mga skidmarks sa mga brip niyo.

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    #67
    one time, sa bachelor's party ng friend ko, may tatlong maid pumasok sa kwarto namin, yung isa sa giant cake pa lumabas. naku, ang ganda ng uniforms nila, very ***y...pero mas maganda pa nung inalis yung uniform!

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    Hehehe. May away na ba? Sa akin lang, hindi ko lang type na may uniform ang maid namin if ever na kukuha uli kami. Siguro wala ring masama doon. :D

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    #69
    ok siguro kung ang maid mo eh swedish au pair. kahit mataas ang sweldo oks lang...pero ibang klaseng uniform ang ipapasuot ko sa kanya...

    Quote Originally Posted by kimpOy
    m54 ano ba yang signature mo hindi ko maintidihan
    mascot ko yan...he's a little bit evil :evillaugh (galing siya sa VW GTI commercial dito)

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    #70
    Walang away...

    just balancing things out.

    People are so quick to judge other people. nakakita lang ng mga naka uniform na maid, masama na agad ang amo. thats sick.

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    its so typical of pinoys. puro negative vibe. cant seem to speak well of others...

    pareho lang yan sa reaction ng nakakita ng isang babae may kasamang foreigner, gumagawa na agad ng kwento... hostess daw... ganito ganyan...

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    #72
    Quote Originally Posted by FXT
    one time, sa bachelor's party ng friend ko, may tatlong maid pumasok sa kwarto namin, yung isa sa giant cake pa lumabas. naku, ang ganda ng uniforms nila, very ***y...pero mas maganda pa nung inalis yung uniform!
    :bwahaha:

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    #73
    Quote Originally Posted by uls
    People are so quick to judge other people. nakakita lang ng mga naka uniform na maid, masama na agad ang amo. thats sick.
    gulat nga ako sa mga reactions ng mga nagpost dito. ang sama pala ng tingin sa amin ng mga tao kapag namamasyal kami sa mall na kasama ang mga anak ko at mga yaya na naka uniform?!?!

    in the first place, tinatanong muna namin kung gusto nila mag uniform bago namin i-hire. and tuwing lumalabas lang kami tsaka sila nag uuniform. kapag dito sa bahay, wear what they want. most of them mas prefer nila naka uniform, some even insists na pati sa bahay gusto nila naka uniform.
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    #74
    Merong difference ang "degrading" sa "discriminating".

    When you discriminate a person, it doesn't necessarily mean you are degrading them, you are just segregating them from you and your family. Para malaman ng mga tao ang difference. Pag naglalakad kayo sa mall with the entire family, having the maid wear a uniform will tell the public that this woman is the maid, she is not part of the family. Yun yung message na gustong i-emphasize. Wala namang kinalaman dito whether you are paying your maid P10,000 a month with SSS and Philhealth. Walang kinalaman yung benefits dito. Ang concern ko is basically just that: Do we really need to discriminate the maid in public? Mura lang naman ang jeans/slacks, blouse, or shirt. Do you really need to have them dress up in a uniform which says "At your service, Madame"?

    Ho-well...

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    My two cents.

    It depends on a whole lot of things.

    First, social perception - iba-iba tayo ng social perception. Sa iba, oks lang while sa iba hindi dahil degrading. Kung maayos, at malinis naman yung uniform at hindi magmumukhang kawawa or muchacha yung kasambahay, then maybe there's nothing wrong with wearing a uniform.

    Second is preference (either by the agency or by the employer). Some agencies do check if the kasambahays in their employ wear uniforms and could make deductions from their salaries. Pero ibang usapan na kung pati day-off ng kasambahay eh pagsusuotin pa rin ng uniform. Foul na yun.

    Third, acceptance. The kasambahays have the right to refuse to wear any uniform that they deem degrading. Nga lang, ang possible trade-off is they could loose their employ.

    In my opinion, just as long as you don't maltreat/mistreat your kasambahay, you pay them justly and on time, you give them their due vacation to visit family and you give them the basic respect and dignity that every human being deserves, then it doesn't matter if they are in uniform or not.

    As for the SSS, this is highly debatable since a lot of low to middle-income households that have kasambahays would not be able to afford SSS, Pag-iBig and what have you. Most of them would prefer either not to have a kasambahay anymore to avoid extra expenditure or look for a new kasambahay.

    My kasambahay has been with us for 11 years. She has been with my wife's family for 15 years before my wifr and I got married. While we do not provide her SSS, we do send her off on a one month paid vacation per year, complete with a month's salary of pocket money. She also has a year-end bonus. Whatever food or happy occasion we have in our house, she can partake. We take care of her medical bills and we even provided her with her own celfone so that she can call her family in the province. Yung load, sya na. She is part of our family and we treat her siblings as next of kin. We sometimes take care of their needs, resources permitting.

    What do we get in return? She loves my only child more than her life (proven 3x). She treats my child as her own child, she watches over whatever little wordly possessions that we have like a hawk and she provides us with a lot of fun moments since she is a character of sorts.

    Most of all, she has proven time and again that we can trust her more than we trust some of our close relatives and give her love, respect and dignity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EL Chicane
    Merong difference ang "degrading" sa "discriminating".

    When you discriminate a person, it doesn't necessarily mean you are degrading them, you are just segregating them from you and your family. Para malaman ng mga tao ang difference. Pag naglalakad kayo sa mall with the entire family, having the maid wear a uniform will tell the public that this woman is the maid, she is not part of the family. Yun yung message na gustong i-emphasize. Wala namang kinalaman dito whether you are paying your maid P10,000 a month with SSS and Philhealth. Walang kinalaman yung benefits dito. Ang concern ko is basically just that: Do we really need to discriminate the maid in public? Mura lang naman ang jeans/slacks, blouse, or shirt. Do you really need to have them dress up in a uniform which says "At your service, Madame"?

    Ho-well...
    That is ur perception. thats what enters your mind when u see maids in uniform. U think the uniformed maid is being discriminated against, and u think the employer is discriminating against his/her maid/s.

    The discrimination comes from your point of view. Coz thats how u interpret it when u see uniformed maids. Gets? its ur thought process. its how u view the world.

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    #77
    Quote Originally Posted by uls
    That is ur perception. thats what enters your mind when u see maids in uniform. U think the uniformed maid is being discriminated against, and u think the employer is discriminating against his/her maid/s.

    The discrimination comes from your point of view. Coz thats how u interpret it when u see uniformed maids. Gets? its ur thought process. its how u view the world.
    somehow I have to agree with this

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    #78
    Quote Originally Posted by EL Chicane
    Malimit akong mapadaan sa Alabang Town Center, and i noticed that many families (Pinoy sila) who go to ATC (presumably sa Ayala Alabang sila nakatira) kilala mo kagad kung sino dun ang maid or yaya -- they are wearing obvious maid uniform.

    Do they really have to wear maid uniforms -- in public??? I find it discriminating. Para tuloy master and slave ang dating.
    I haven't read the whole thread. Pero ang mga kasambahay namin, hindi naman required mag-uniform. Maayos naman ang mga damit nila and marunong naman sila magbihis so ok lang. Besides, their tasks are not limited to cooking, laba, plantsa, linis ng bahay. They are also trained to clean vehicles ('Big Berta' nga ang tawag ko minsan kasi para silang Big Bert's hehehe), paint stuff, etc. Jobs which would make wearing a uniform impractical.

    Though we rarely bring them along when we go out, much as we also rarely bring a driver along, in the instances that they have to come with us hindi na kailangan mag-uniform. Mas maporma pa sakin ang mga lola. hehehe. Ok lang din naman kaysa naman baduy diba.

    I think we're treating them justly naman. We don't pay them much and walang regular day offs sa amin but they stay. They do get nice accomodations (they have cable TV, we recently renovated their room, etc.). My mom's nanny is still with the family (with my mom's bro in Canada). My bro's nanny has been promoted to a sort of 'mayordoma'. My brother is 21 now, he doesn't need a nanny so the duties have shifted a bit.

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    #79
    Sa ibang bansa mga super rich lang ang nakaka-afford ng live-in na maid/butler etc... ibang klase kasi ang "maid" culture dito sa pilipinas eh. tandaan niyo na nasa "informal service sector". depende talaga sa couple yan hindi naman sila makakatanggi eh kung ayaw nila mag uniporme eh.

  20. FrankDrebin Guest
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    Quote Originally Posted by uls
    That is ur perception. thats what enters your mind when u see maids in uniform. U think the uniformed maid is being discriminated against, and u think the employer is discriminating against his/her maid/s.

    The discrimination comes from your point of view. Coz thats how u interpret it when u see uniformed maids. Gets? its ur thought process. its how u view the world.
    Mas madalas kasing makita sa public places na kinakawawa or parang alipin kung turing ng mga amo sa mga uniformed maids nila (just like yebo's story which is talagang nangyayari) kaya ganun na lang ang perception ng karamihan.

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