Baha: To cross or not to cross ??

[mikaztro]

Hindi papasok ang tubig sa tambutso kahit naka 1000rpm ka as long as wag lang mabasa ang sparkplugs or pasukan ng tubig ang air intake--kasi sigurado mag stall vehicle mo at saka papasok ang tubig sa tambutso. :D

kahit nasa baha ka and medyo traffic, you can stay a little above 1000rpm just to maintain engine running.

[mikaztro]

Another pic courtesy of KCboy.

Mazda mazda, yes you can shift your gear in neutral while waiting for the go signal to proceed in deep flood. Then shift fast to 1st gear when green and don't step/play on the clutch. Proceed with caution.

[pepengtom]

"not to cross" for me.

[bongliza]

Just a bit confuse here. Some say we need to maintain 1500rpm while crossing baha, means the higher the rpm, the faster the car is. While opening the clutch is not advisable, then how to control the speed without controlling via clutch. puwede ba mag neutral just to maintain the rpm? papano pag mabagal yung nasa unahan mo? or puwede ba reeving at 1500 while braking?...ngeekkk...papano yun?

[mbt]

maintain 1500 rpm with the clutch fully engaged. mabagal lang naman yung takbo na yun.

the photo of a pajero idling in water im talking about was parked, not moving like in the pics mikaztro posted. hehe

mazdamazda,

kung ganyan kalalim yung tubig that you worry about your clutch at napahinto ka, (hehe), magdasal ka nalang, baka pumasok sa loob yung tubig at kung saan saan hehehe. but i think the best thing to do is to pop the tranny into neutral

[ILuvDetailing]

How about in A/T? Any tips when forging into deep floods? Also do you need to have your brakes cleaned after?

[mikaztro]

Yes you can cross flood in 1500rpm. Really depends on the situation say you need to put higher rpms in situations that arises. You can play your rpm by tipping in/out your accelerator and not stepping on your clutch. For sudden stop, of course you need to shift to neutral in order for you not to stall. Shifting quickly or avoiding the use of clutch is a must.

Remember, "As slow as possible as fast as necessary"

[jim]

what i do is to shift second or first gear at constant acceleration before going into a flooded street. no need to speed up just go slowly. i never stop. di ko inaapakan ang clutch. syempre bago ko gawin ito sinisigurado ko na malayo agwat namin nung naunang sasakyan just in case di ako maka-preno dahil basa na yung breaks.

[baiskee]

eh kung may makita kang ganito...



wag ka na mag dalawang isip.... wag mo na ituloy.

[silhouette]

pag inabot ang pinto. negative.

di ba mas mataas sa gitna ng kalye than sa sides...?

[kimpOy]

ang kulit mo baiskee...

[kimpOy]

ang kulit mo baiskee...he..he

[mikaztro]

By the way, a 1500 rpm is close to normal idle around +/- 1000rpm. So there is really no problem of having to step on the accelerator and break all at once. You can step on the accelerator or break pedals vice versa. No need to step both. The key is playing with your accelerator and maintain your rpm as possible. Be wary of your tachometer. not realy a pro but am just sharing what i've learned in the 4x4clinics and water fording situations from the 4x4gurus. Hope this helps.

[mbt]

baiskee,

bwahahaha... bilib talaga ako sa photoshop skills mo

[jerkky]

[QUOTE=mikaztro]As much as possible avoid the often flooded streets of Metro.

Things to remember when fording high waters:

3. The higher your rpm, the higher risk you stall. (radiator breakage due to shattered fan blade, fan breakage, electronic breakdown due to splash of water; air filter-intake water seapage).


observation ko lang, parang hindi na nga dapat mag-worry kung masisira yung fan blade and radiator, at least for fwd cars. di ba may parang switch na magsaasbi kung kelan mag-on yung radiator fan pag mainit na yung engine. ang observation ko kasi, pag baha and sinugod mo car mo, pag nabasa na yung switch na sinasabi ko, automatic mag-off yung radiator fan. kasi nga ang reading niya is malamig ang temperature. wag lang siguro masyadong matagal nakalubog. pero kung slowly moving naman, tingin ko ok lang.

except siguro kung naka-on ang aircon mo, which will also turn on yung aux fan. pag umandar kasi ang compressor, aandar din ang aux fan. so kung umiikot ang aux fan tapos sinugod mo sa tubig, malaki ang chances na masira ang fan and radiator na rin.

pero wag nga tatapak sa clutch pag nasa baha ka. ginawa ko yan dati, nakalusot naman ako. ang downside is, nung nag-check ako ng tranny, may halong tubig yung gear oil. palit na ko ng clutch, may kalawang na rin kasi.

[mazdamazda]

thanks for the tip guys.

been doing it all wrong it seems... hehehe... used to play with the clutch while fording really deep waters.

[mikaztro]

what i do is to shift second or first gear at constant acceleration before going into a flooded street. no need to speed up just go slowly. i never stop. di ko inaapakan ang clutch. syempre bago ko gawin ito sinisigurado ko na malayo agwat namin nung naunang sasakyan just in case di ako maka-preno dahil basa na yung breaks.

Correct ka dyan pare!

[the_wildthing]

Simple answer... huwag!

Sa kotse, hanggang tire wall lang ako, pag abot na yung "mags", di na.

Other vehicles have better fording capabilities. Meron nga kasama sa brochure yung water level hehe.

Ang question ko pala is, bakit bawal mag clutch? Hindi ba sealed ang tranny?

[baiskee]

baiskee,

bwahahaha... bilib talaga ako sa photoshop skills mo

hehe...wala akong ginalaw dyan...

[geode]

assess how high the water is by observing other vechicles in front of you. if you think it's low enough then proceed slowly making sure there's big enough gap between you and the vehicle in front but making sure you're not too far behind that you can't take advantage of the wake he/she made.

streets are usually inclined away from the center island (ie. they're inclined towards the banketa) so make sure you're in the leftmost lane. PERO if you observe that most cars are concentrated sa certain lane then follow them

sabi nga sa isang previous post, "as slow as possible and as fast as possible". drive at a slow constant speed (1st gear lang usually). avoid using the clutch pero if kailangan talaga then shift as fast as possible.

after leaving the flooded area pump the brakes to dry them off while driving.

afaik indi na kailangang magrev.