Mazda2 [MERGED]

[ianini12]

mga sirs, i am actually choosing between the city 1.5 and the mazda 2.. gusto ko ng puti kasi parehong ok eh... mas gusto ko sana yung M2 kaso parang may pumipigil sa akin thinking long term. Haven't had any mazda in the past and i have asked people who owns a mazda and wala naman daw sila problema in terms of maintenance. pero andun pa rin yung doubt..I used to drive an old city and we 2 other honda cars and kuntento ako sa after market ng honda. ano bang ok na diskarte at basis na pwede pag pilian..? kung porma mas gusto ko ung m2 and pati sa feel ng drive kasi pareho ko na test drive, pero di ko sigurado ang after market kaysa sa honda... kung baga Happiness 80% sa city pero long term ang ok or 100% happiness sa M2 pero di ko lam kung ok sa long term. patulong naman for enlightenment...! salamats!

[lamborghinione]

mga sirs, i am actually choosing between the city 1.5 and the mazda 2.. gusto ko ng puti kasi parehong ok eh... mas gusto ko sana yung M2 kaso parang may pumipigil sa akin thinking long term. Haven't had any mazda in the past and i have asked people who owns a mazda and wala naman daw sila problema in terms of maintenance. pero andun pa rin yung doubt..I used to drive an old city and we 2 other honda cars and kuntento ako sa after market ng honda. ano bang ok na diskarte at basis na pwede pag pilian..? kung porma mas gusto ko ung m2 and pati sa feel ng drive kasi pareho ko na test drive, pero di ko sigurado ang after market kaysa sa honda... kung baga Happiness 80% sa city pero long term ang ok or 100% happiness sa M2 pero di ko lam kung ok sa long term. patulong naman for enlightenment...! salamats!

Pipiliin ko ang mazda 2 because of the following reasons:

1. Mas mura. Try asking for an attractive discount kung meron na
2. Bago labas(locally lang, 2007 pa to na-introduce sa ibang major markets)
3. Ok naman re-sale value. Sa mazda 3, konti lang difference compared sa Civics, mas mataas pa rin syempre ng konti resale value ng mga civics.
4. OK naman ang after-sales service, basta punta ka sa dealer na may magandang record.

Other than these reasons, either City or Jazz ang pipiliin ko if price doesn't matter

[Type 100]

Hmmm aftermarket? Do you plan on modifying the car?

In Japan, there are already a bunch of aftermarket parts for the 2/Demio, since it's technically already a three-year-old car at least. Getting them here, however, is another story.

You should have no problem with wheels, those are easy and the 2/Demio doesn't use a special PCD or lug pattern. Springs should be easy as well. For power adders though, that's still a question mark. The 2/Demio in Japan mostly seems to have turned to turbocharging.

For bodykits...check out Knight Sports' Demio for an idea of the kind of stuff they're churning out.

[daemon101]

I'm going for the 2 if I were you.

If you need more help on Mazda2, you can start posting at http://www.clubmazda3.org They have a section for Mazda 2's there in ClubMazda Philippines.

[daimengrui]

We need more green cars in the Philippines so get a Mazda 2

[gongrhey]

ganyan din ako dati may doubt sa pagbili ng mazda, alam mo naman na 2 japanese brand lang ang kilala sa pinas at we have a toyota car. pero nung nakita ko mazda 3 i go for it, ganda ng handling at exterior looks. di ko pa masyadong alam nun na may mga nakuha palang award yung m3 at highly regarded lalo sa ibang bansa. after sales service ng mazda ay okay din halos ka-price lang din ng honda ang regular pms. sa forum namin sa clubmazda3 maraming nagpupunta sa banawe para bumili ng parts may store dun na pang mazda. di ko pa nakita mazda 2 pero judging on the looks, hanep.

[caloyski5]

niky! waiting for your review

[Type 100]

niky! waiting for your review

Same here :D

[111prez]

ganyan din ako dati may doubt sa pagbili ng mazda, alam mo naman na 2 japanese brand lang ang kilala sa pinas at we have a toyota car. pero nung nakita ko mazda 3 i go for it, ganda ng handling at exterior looks. di ko pa masyadong alam nun na may mga nakuha palang award yung m3 at highly regarded lalo sa ibang bansa. after sales service ng mazda ay okay din halos ka-price lang din ng honda ang regular pms. sa forum namin sa clubmazda3 maraming nagpupunta sa banawe para bumili ng parts may store dun na pang mazda. di ko pa nakita mazda 2 pero judging on the looks, hanep.

OT: for me, buying a mazda was also a leap of faith. i have had/owned toyota, nissan, mitsubishi and suzuki (no isuzu, kia, hyundai until now and i don't consider cars i drove but don't own, hehehe) but never any mazda. it was like when i bought the JDM CBU vitara GLX then which was also a leap of faith but eventually i was impressed by this zuke. thus far, my experience with the mazda is the same, i.e. the same leap of faith and i am impressed so far

[daimengrui]

Mazda is a brand that surprises you. They totally overhauled their corporate culture after the turn of the century.

Anyway the m2 has some awesome fuel consumption figures from what I've heard and seen from paper and in actual usage. I have a neighbor who owns a new m2 and he's loving the lil car.

[ianini12]

maraming salamats mga boss... im on the Mazda 2 side most likely.. im 90% decided and sana di na maguluhan uli. will give feedback again once im done with the purchase. salamat.

[Type 100]

Full review in a week.

Niky where's your review? :cheer:

[niky]

Niky where's your review? :cheer:

Have the photos... just need to post them up and I can put up the review.

[boldventure]

maglalabas daw ng manual 1.3 by march according sa SA na nakausap ko

[eggman]

maglalabas daw ng manual 1.3 by march according sa SA na nakausap ko

Wow okay yan ha!

[niky]

The engine is weak on paper, but in practice, it's actually pretty good. Punchy, torquey and sounds great.

For those who have been waiting:

Mazda2 vs. Honda Jazz

We’ve been here before.

Mazda has a car that’s a wallflower. Good in its own way, but overshadowed by newer, flashier and more mainstream opposition. They give it a facelift. A redesign. It still doesn’t work. Then they do something radical: they throw out the old car and and build an entirely new one from the ground up.

This started with the 626 -> Mazda6 metamorphosis, followed by 323 -> Mazda3. Now, they’ve gone all the way down to the dinky little Demio, giving us the Mazda2. Okay, the Demio was already rebadged as the Mazda2 when Mazda revamped its line-up, but that car wasn’t as deserving of the “Zoom zoom” moniker as the rest of the range.

This one is.

Decided to put it head-to-head with the Jazz because you can't know where you stand with a new car unless you put it up against the best-in-the-class.

In the end, the Mazda2 is a solid alternative to the Honda. However, lacking the incredible cargo and passenger capacity of the Jazz, that’s all it will ever be, an alternative. But for those looking to spice up their lives with a small, practical car with stunning looks that’s also tremendous fun to drive, the Mazda2 fits the bill better than any car since the original Jazz.

No surprises... the Jazz is still probably the car more people are going to buy... my wife gave me dagger looks when I started talking about buying the Mazda2, even though she absolutely fawned over the Jazz... ...but if you're more after driving fun than van-like space, there's lots to like about the Mazda2. ;)

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*Type100: I tried to figure out if the purported instability under braking was there... couldn't elicit it. The only time I could get the rear end to step out was in very hard cornering, but it was gradual and the rear tires bit again right after and held their line. No fishtailing or anything. Acted just like a Gen 1 MMC Jazz 1.5, actually.

It does feels twitchy under hard braking, probably because the tires have so much bite and the rear end is so light... but before anything can happen, the rear tires lose traction, the rear drums lock up and the ABS smooths braking out... allowing the car to settle again. Probably could use less rear brake bias or rear disc brakes... but it's not a big issue.

Of course, I don't want to risk my neck and the car doing an incredibly dangerous hard braking and swerving test ala Best Motoring. In any ABS equipped car without ESP, the sudden bite of steering when ABS engages can cause the car to veer wildly if it cycles on suddenly after the front tires start sliding. While ESP is available on the Mazda2, we don't get it locally. And unless the Dunlops are total crap in the rain, we don't need it.

[Type 100]

The engine is weak on paper, but in practice, it's actually pretty good. Punchy, torquey and sounds great.

For those who have been waiting:

Mazda2 vs. Honda Jazz

*Type100: I tried to figure out if the purported instability under braking was there... couldn't elicit it. The only time I could get the rear end to step out was in very hard cornering, but it was gradual and the rear tires bit again right after and held their line. No fishtailing or anything. Acted just like a Gen 1 MMC Jazz 1.5, actually.

It does feels twitchy under hard braking, probably because the tires have so much bite and the rear end is so light... but before anything can happen, the rear tires lose traction, the rear drums lock up and the ABS smooths braking out... allowing the car to settle again. Probably could use less rear brake bias or rear disc brakes... but it's not a big issue.

Of course, I don't want to risk my neck and the car doing an incredibly dangerous hard braking and swerving test ala Best Motoring. In any ABS equipped car without ESP, the sudden bite of steering when ABS engages can cause the car to veer wildly if it cycles on suddenly after the front tires start sliding. While ESP is available on the Mazda2, we don't get it locally. And unless the Dunlops are total crap in the rain, we don't need it.

That's good to know then. Great review too.

I tried to look for that Best Motoring episode I was talking about (with the 2/Demio failing the ELC test) and I think it was the November 2008 one. Haven't been able to confirm it from home because of shoddy Internet access, however.

If you got the time and interest, PM me for details of that episode.

[niky]

That's good to know then. Great review too.

I tried to look for that Best Motoring episode I was talking about (with the 2/Demio failing the ELC test) and I think it was the November 2008 one. Haven't been able to confirm it from home because of shoddy Internet access, however.

If you got the time and interest, PM me for details of that episode.

Thanks! We'll probably be putting up a version of this review in an upcoming print project... (stay posted).

That BMI episode ain't online? Shucks... sige, pa-PM naman... maybe I can raid your vid library.

[caloyski5]

nice review (as usual) niky!

thanks!

[daimengrui]

Good Day,

I would like to announce the upcoming launch of the Mazda 2 1.5L Sedan Series both M/T and A/T
The Prices would be M/T - P 725,000.00 | A/T - P 785,000.00 and
The Estimated Day of Launch will be 3rd Week of March.

Thank you so much,

Mazda Sales Consultant [Edited]

From an email by a Mazda GH S.A.